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[PUZZLE] A rotten apple spoils its companions
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Shad0
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 		[PUZZLE] A rotten apple spoils its companions
New puzzle from Lyn
New puzzle at Hang Separately:

Lyn wrote:
Hope everyone's new year is off to a great start!

For this one, don't get turned around, and try to keep your head in one place.

First part is the key, second part is the code. (Wish I had time to work on it now. Hope you don't solve it too quickly!)
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 		No idea where I'm going with this, but thought I'd upload what I did...

The numbering of course is completely arbitrary.
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Shad0
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 		Re: [PUZZLE] A rotten apple spoils its companions
ARRRGH!
bwochinski wrote:
No idea where I'm going with this, but thought I'd upload what I did...

Interesting. I had assumed that the important foot was the purple one. (Not that it's gotten me anywhere, mind you...)

I interpreted Lyn's comment about "try to keep your head in one place" to mean that we ought to visualize each figure as being inside the circle, with the head always at the center, and the foot at one of those dots. 26 of them -- isn't that convenient? I also interpreted "don't get turned around" and the hand pointing to the right in the key to mean that we ought to go clockwise around the circle, so I've assumed that the red dot at the top is A and proceeded clockwise from there.

(Unfortunately, I can feel myself falling prey to my usual shortcoming: having made all of these logical (to me) assumptions, I continue to cling to them even when every variation I try leads me absolutely nowhere, rather than finding somewhere different from which to start. Arrrgh.)
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 		my attempts
Hey Guys it's been a while from Canadian CSI CSIMezzer. So I tried my hand at the puzzle. what I did is notice, kay the circle has 26 points = alphabet. We have a walking key which is suprisingly anatomically correct (I tried it in case Lyn's title "rotten apple" was pertinent to the puzzle where one man was to be taken out).

Then I put the men, in their walking order into the circle in their original positions without turning them. Each letter I took was using the purple foot as a pointer.

The best solution I got once, doing the puzzle upside down by mistake, was EMPTY POCKETS. BUt this did not yield a video. When I did the puzzle the right way with 7 men as the 1st word, the problem is that there are extra men in the second and 4th positions. this screws it up royally unless my eyes decieve me. QUestion for everyone: Are all the men able to be put in the key's walking order???

Oh the head in the circle things, yeah I tried that too, but some of the feet do not point to any dot on our alphabet circle.

I'll keep trying when the theatres don't eat up my life with minimal wage work.

CSIMezzer.

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Shad0
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 		Re: [PUZZLE] A rotten apple spoils its companions
New puzzle from Lyn
New hint today at Hang Separately:

Lyn wrote:
Need a hint?

Approach this like you would any other tricky problem: get into position, put your best foot forward, and take the next step.

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GregT
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 		One foot's gotta be marked purple for a reason. (Put your best foot forward.)

Maybe letters marked out by the 4 and 5 positions are to be treated differently, or read anticlockwise instead of clockwise?

PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:17 pm
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GregT
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 		If I've read the wheel right:

Positions to letters, in order of appearance:

1 2 3 4 5
F E D C K
T O Z R P
V S

That 2/3/2/3/2 distribution looks familiar. I keep thinking rail fence cyphers but i don't think that's what it is.

In order, if you read right till the next 1, then to the next 2, etc:

1 2 3 4 5
F O Z C K
T V D R P

With the excess letters E (2) and S (4).

Reading the "left foot" positions backwards doesn't seem to help. For 4, it switches out C R S for I H Y, using the Y H for the ordered list. Interestingly, 5 reads the same forwards as backwards (KP).

The two things I think might give the clue to the method are the uneven distributions of the 2 and 4 positions, and the fact that unless there's a trick to it, they would be unable to use the same letter twice on this wheel.

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Shad0
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 		Re: [PUZZLE] A rotten apple spoils its companions
New hint from Lyn
Another hint at Hang Separately:

Lyn wrote:
Still nothing? Well, I guess I'll hold off on a new puzzle this week to give you more time to think about this one.

The marked feet point to an indicator, but not immediately. You need to take the next step first.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:26 pm
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CSIMezzer
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 		New clue to the not solved puzzle
Hello CSIs. Lyn's given us a new clue to the walking man.

" Still nothing? Okay, here's a walking tour. Take each figure, place it in the circle. Its marked foot will correspond to a marking on the circle (count them for a hint to their significance). But before that, you have to take the next step."

I've tried a lot as U can see on the hang separately page forum under the puzzle. It's just that next step thing that makes no sense right now. Like are we supposed to imaging the opposite feet in the next step? add 5? I've tried the next position over top the men, and nothing's come of it.

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Shad0
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 		Re: New clue to the not solved puzzle
[SOLVED]
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I could've sworn I'd tried this before, but... As Lyn instructed, I placed the figure in the circle, advanced it one step (and one figure), and looked at where the purple foot would be. I got as far as F-O-R-V-A-R, figured I'd been off by one on that V, and extrapolated the solution:

Forward March

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:49 am
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CSIMezzer
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 		Thx Shadow
Hey Shadow. Thanks for the solve. I can't believe though that's whats I did too and I got nothing. I put the guy in the circle, then I put the next position guy on top and I got nothing. I don't get it I get so close to the solution but I always mess up.

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Shad0
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 		Re: [PUZZLE] A rotten apple spoils its companions
New puzzle from Lyn
Back on February 19, Lyn wrote:
And a new puzzle -- the last of the forum puzzles -- will be up on Wednesday.

Something that someone (who shall remain nameless) said this past weekend prompted me to wonder about this. I had been assuming that Lyn was just busy or something... but we do know that there is still a murderer wandering around free as a bird.

So is it possible that there is an in-game reason for Lyn not posting her last puzzle? Shocked
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