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Wang Guantao
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I can't see the image =/
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:14 am
zoid
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Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 45
ive been working on decoding that as well and got what i believe may be a clue from theophilus when i sent him something regarding it. he told me that i was too dangerous to help and signed it genesis 49:12. i did some research on genesis 49:12 and found out that it was an acrostic so i believe that the physics of immortality may be something similar. i tried to figure it out but wasnt able to get very far. i sent another message to theophilus mentioning the acrostic meaning of genesis 49:12 so hopefully he will send something back soon.
Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:14 pm
BrumGuy
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Re-posting Image Sorry it took so long to re-post - only just got back to my desktop.
I'm still drawing a blank!
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Posted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:04 pm
zoid
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Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 45
i figured if the first two numbers were page and and line the third could be letter or word so here are those results.
by word: he ??* equivalent is but space nor time ??** matter but superior to all of these things being the omipotent and omnipresent and omniscient end.
*the third number was 22 and there werent 22 numbers in the sentence so im not sure what would go there if this is correct.
** there was an abbreviated name in this sentence and i wasnt sure if the first initial would count as a word or if the whole name counted as a word. regardless the three possible outcomes would be G, Tait, or argued. none of which would make sense.
by letter: m o a b c b t h t e p e u i d i n a p y o s s e
again doesnt make too much sense.
the fact that the number relating to words ends with but superior to all of these being the omnipotent omnipresent and omniscient end makes me think that might be it but there was an error somewhere, either on my end or in the lines that were given to me or something cause the first part just doesnt make sense for the most part. i havent tried rearranging the letters yet but that will be my next attempt. i hope some of you have better luck than im having
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:48 am
notgordian
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Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 1383 Location: Philly
I agree with ziod on this one regarding the words being the solution--I have a correction to the transcript though.
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<quote>"He XXXX equivalent is but space nor time YYYY matter but superior to all of these being the omnipotent omnipresent and omniscient end"
XXXX--unknown: if you cycle through and start counting again from the beginning, it would be "be". It could also, ironically enough, be "Does Not Exist"--in this context, "has no" (because the answer is a null set here)
YYYY--as ziod said, according to the counting it could be either G, Tait, or argued. The latter is most likely.</quote>
In general, the passage makes a lot of sense: one or two errors in the first portion would be all that's preventing that from making sense as well (if it weren't for the second word). It does seem too much for coincidence...especially as the end describes the three elements of godhood.
Judging by what we have here, however, I believe the answer to be "God", or perhaps whatever Tippler's concept of G-d is (the Omega Point itself, perhaps although you had to have tried that already). I highly suggest presenting these findings to Ziod, begging pardon for the slight inaccuracies, and attempting this guess. Maybe we'd get another hint to guide us forward (I tried Googling the latter text string [the part that makes sense] to no avail).
BrumGuy--I know you want to keep aspects of this a secret, but can you reveal the context you received the message in? It might help to know the context of the solve so we can tell if we're trying for the phrase or a password or something else entirely.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 8:01 am
UnimportantHero
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Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 162
First four letters spell Moab: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moab
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:25 pm
zoid
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Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 45
ill hit him up and let you know what i receive back.
just a little added thing, several people have gotten me mixed up with ziod or thought i had some connection with him because of my name. i really dont, zoid is just a shortened version dr. zoidberg so i am strictly an OOG nublet who happened to be contacted by ziod.
Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:20 pm
zoid
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Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 45
i got a message back from father ziod telling saying this:
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...for out of knowledge in truth comes understanding! Praise be to the Omega Point God in his infinity and finality! Have you the whole message from start to finish yet? You are very close it would seem - If we only had the original pagination ourselves I might be able to help you, but I will meditate on the text in preparation for tomorrow's services.
this means the words are correct and we only need to figure out the first nine words of the message to have this solved.
Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007 2:07 pm
Wang Guantao
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Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 246
Have you tried cycling the senteces like Gord suggested? or simply to cound on into the next sentence?
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 9:03 am
aninterloper
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Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 182
By the way, I suspect the second unknown to be a typo in the numbers: he switched the initial numbers for the fifth and ninth words, which should read "90,16,1" and "92,16,5", respectively. This would make the phrase "neither space nor time nor matter", which makes a whole lot more sense. In a similar vein, perhaps "7,2,22" is actually "7,2,2", and "7,2,2" is actually "7,2,3"? Ie. "He is equivalent to", again much clearer.
The whole sentence, then, would read:
He is equivalent to neither space nor time nor matter but superior to all of these things being the omipotent and omnipresent and omniscient end.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 5:50 pm
Wang Guantao
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Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 246
THAT sounds like what was intended.
Who this he is though I don't know, but he's not alot of things
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:45 pm
notgordian
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Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 1383 Location: Philly
Wow...nice catch on that, aninterloper . I think that's probably EXACTLY what we've been looking for.
Since BrumGuy said Father Ziod was looking for the exact phrase, now all we need is somebody who knows this is going on in-game (and has the requisite information) to fire off the answer to Ziod.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 7:50 pm
aninterloper
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notgordian wrote:
Since BrumGuy said Father Ziod was looking for the exact phrase, now all we need is somebody who knows this is going on in-game (and has the requisite information) to fire off the answer to Ziod.
Oops, I already kinda did that. The whole IG/OOG roleplaying thing is hard for me. I did say I "had contact with" the agents he'd given the task to, so maybe that could be considered IG, though he might be peeved they let others know.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:10 pm
zoid
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Joined: 27 Feb 2007 Posts: 45
since ive been in contact with ziod and sent him in a partial solve already ill send in the rest and see what he says.
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2007 11:46 pm
BrumGuy
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Joined: 03 Mar 2007 Posts: 66
Not sure if you had heard anything back yet Zoid, but in the meantime does anyone think that the triangular type (arrow perhaps) shape thingy has anything to do with where the begining of the message should be?
Brum
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 10:11 pm
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