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[tcandkk]

If no one else is in the process of setting up a forum for the homeless DR's, my husband said he will set up a forum on our server. He can set up this same type we are used to using. Just give me a yeah/nay on here or send a PM. Unfiction has been very gracious to allow these posts but as more players come back we need a full forum.


Donna

[pfox2005]

First off its good to see alot of the ragers found this place. good to see all are alive and well. second i too was disappointed with the new game but, more than that im disappointed in the Bashing of Riddle Productions and Daily Rage. especially from the ones of you that are suspose to be dedicated and loyal players of the game. If your not happy with the game then send feedback it may not help but then again it might. If not you don't have to play the game. We should be glad there is a game that offers free play as well as free money

i know your frustration on not getting your money yet. 2 of my sons also have won and one was a monthly winner. But they have been in contact with Riddle Productions and have been assured they will get there money. and i believe they will! Not because Riddle Productions said so but, because i am a dedicated and loyal player, and they have already paid there winners of past games which i was a winner. and yes.. some of those paid had bounced checks but they were compensated for that error. So that shouldn't be held against them.

But this bashing and talk of abritration is just wrong. look at it this way it's like money in the bank till it comes but, don't spend it till its in the bank. and if you do.. then that's your fault not there's. but again this is just my opinion and you know what they say about those.

HAVE A GOOD DAY!!!

[chazzsmom99]

Pfox--Hi! sure glad another rager found us.

I'm glad to see that Rage has some more faithfuls. We all are/were faithful fans, mostly of the old DR, but still..And most of us that are here are winners of the old game, Nov. and now Dec. After being lied to, and threatened by DR staff, it is hard to be so positive. Let me ask you--has your sons contacted DR? Have they heard, "There is money, but it has to be transferred?", or, "Be more patient?"? I have heard those excuses, plus many more, since the end of January, and now, because I won twice, I hear those excuse twice as much. The in-house lawyer has skated the line of threatening me, and others. Now, did you know that they are a limited liability company? And, if we don't do something now, the statute of limitations will run out, we don't get anything. (That's why the excuses) And did you also know that they are committing fraud?? (That is according to the California State Attorney's Office, not us) In the state of California, they are liable for 3x the amount of check. The new winners have a better chance of getting their money than us....

The bounced checks? Well, one of the players who got a check bounced, never did receive compenstation...She has tried a few times to cash, or deposit it, to no avail....

As for the feedback thing to them? We do that, over, and over, and over....by email, on their contact form, even by phone calls..Since they refuse to put a forum back up, which is why we're here, it's hard to know if our feedback makes a difference any more. When I make my weekly phone call to DR, I make sure to give feedback to Garth, in a nice way, cuz he doesn't need to be put on the spot any more than he is. Through him, I have learned that the designers (most of them) and some staff are unhappy and shocked by the way the game is these days.

I sincerely hate bashing, and I seriously don't think that is what we have been doing. What we are doing is exchanging info so that way we know who is being lied to, threatened and belittled. If we weren't able to exchange info, then we wouldn't know some things that might be important.

This is my opinion, and I'm not jumping you for yours. After all, like marriage, we are in this for better or worse, with our eyes open!! We didn't break our side of the agreement, whereas they have. (Remember that little checkbox for terms of service when you signed up?)

Have a wonderful, beautiful day,
Peggi (chmom)

[pfox2005]

In answer to your question yes the boys have been in contact with Daily Rage and the response they got from them was in no way mean or rude.
though i could see how they might get upset with phone calls from the same person day after day when they have already answered there question. The ones that answer the phone have no authority to issue anyone a check, so getting rude with them doesn't do anything but compound the problem.

as to the limited liability question from my understanding That just means that if anything happens ( such as lawsuits etc...) the owners personal assets can't be touched to pay the debts. ( which by the way is a smart business practice).

As for the lawyer threating you i did not see any threat in the letter from the lawyer what i saw was someone trying to answer your question in a professional manner.( which he is suspose to do). the letter from the husband seemed to have more of a threat sense to it. as for the being liable for 3x the amount.. if you lose in abritration last i checked 3x0 still equals 0. And even if you win , if they dont have the funds they can't pay which means more than likely bankruptcy so what do you have then? I think we will take our chances and wait for our checks.

but on another note i do have a question:

how many accounts can you have for daily rage?? i thought the rules say it is only one. and if that is the case those who have there name listed several times regardless of different spells (ETC... all caps, caps on first and last name, or even shortened first name) should be disqualifed. don't you agree???

[RedHatty]

[pfox2005]

I don't see where it would change the odds if employees play seeing how anyone can play but only U.S citizens can win. and if there name were drawn they would be disqualified either because they are an employee or they were from out of country. I think its great that all can play its a great way to pass time and everyone enjoys a good game especially when its the weekly strangers game.

both my sons also won in november so i know what you mean about it being 4 months soon, but even when the stranger games were done it took a while to get the checks, but they did come. I guess i am just willing to give them the extra time, unforseen things do happen to everyone. and like i told my sons just look at it as money in the bank, but dont rely on it till its in there.

i can see there view on changing things for the next winners. especially after all the talk of arbitrations ( they do have to protect themselves in the future) other wise there would be someone trying to sue them at every opportunity.

The 5,000 cap doesn't bother me its alot like the prize offered in stranger adventures they offer one set grand prize amount for winning. 5,000 is still alot of money i'm sure most would be glad to have it especially when it's free money.

I hope it doesn't come to them doing the bankruptcy thing, It would sure be a waste to lose a great game site to play for free and win free money.

[RedHatty]

But I would have played the original game even if there was no prize, the game was fun. I play many games & I am not in it for money or prizes, but because it stimulates my brain.

The version of the game now, the only reason to play it is for the money which most people will never see, MTV is not sponsoring them as in paying the prize award, they are Hosting them only.

But each person will live & learn for themselves. I honestly wish i had never won at all, at least then I wouldn't look at DR as a bunch of liars with what used to be a great game.

[chazzsmom99]

Pfox--I don't believe there has been mention of lawsuits, except as a last resource. We are talking arbitration, which is a whole different matter. They entered into a contract, they broke the contract, we as player didn't. As such, there should be repercussions.

I am glad you like the game. In my personal opinion, it is no better than some of other games on the net, and much worse than most. The difference--THEY PROMISE MONEY. Yes, I still play, but I don't go to my computer with any sense of wanting to. I do it because I've gotten used to going to DR.

I'm glad you feel so trusting of an internet company that breaks their promises, I really am. I also feel sorry for you.

Peggi

[pfox2005]

Sorry meant to put arbitration not lawsuit i changed my post to that effect. but on the same note everyone one time or another has had problems fulfilling there obligations for an unforseen reason.( bill payment,ETC..) are you not breaking a contract in that sense as well? anyway not going to get in a riff about that. all i was saying is things do happen that can't be helped.

As for you feeling sorry for me DON'T! Nothing to feel sorry for me for. We are choosing to wait instead of jumping the gun. And in the same respect i don't feel sorry for you either as you chose to spend the money before it was secured. Which was your choice and not worthy of an argument for the fact it was your mistake for doing so.

As for the game now i am disappointed in it but the old Daily rage was a great game to play. and yes i do play the new game but isn't anywhere as good as the old.

[RedHatty]

[pfox2005]

I understand completely what your saying. and all I'm saying is i think i would rather wait the few weeks for a check that would clear than to have one sent to me that would not, just to show their good faith. wouldn't it be better to get the email saying there was a problem and the checks would not be sent till a later time?

And if you are playing the game cause you like it and not for the money what would it matter when they sent it as long as it was sent? And if you did need the money why would you play an online game knowing it would take a bit to get it, instead of another resource that would give it to you in a timely manner?

[RedHatty]

[chazzsmom99]

[pfox2005]

my life doesn't evolve around waiting on the mail i have better things to do with my time. and as far as my morals just because i'm not jumping the gun and hollering abritration doesn't make me a bad person. Nor a bad mother.

and as for my kids, they are adults and they know whats right and wrong. this just teaches them to not count their chickens before they hatch. and to trust no one. as for being a doormat they are way far from that i can assure you. and i never said it was ok what the company was doing, i said we were willing to give them the extra time.

and as for your children to me this is the perfect way to be teaching them you can't put your trust into what a company tells you it's gonna do till it does it. But when the company follows through and gives you the check even though it is late, isn't that teaching them something also?

[RedHatty]

We are obviously very different people pfox, Although this is a bit off course, I live in New Orleans, When the Army Corps of Engineers tells us that our levies and pumps wil be ready before hurricane season, we expect to be secure that they are telling us the truth, not that as the season starts we will hear, oops, unexpected problems, maybe half way through the season we will have them ready & you will be safe.

When my car goes into the shop for repairs and they tell me it will be ready on "specified date" I trust that I will be able to pick up my car on that date. IF there are complications, i expect the company to contact me & inform me of the delay, not say absolutely nothing and then lie to me when I ask when it will be ready.

Too many people in this world accept mis-management as a normal part of life, then can't understand why things in our world are run so poorly, from the business down the road to the federal government.

I am not complacent about mediocrity, you may be, I am not, I expect & demand better, from myself and others.

If my company was over 30 days late in paying $45,000 worth of obligations, my company would be taken to court - in a heartbeat! Why should Riddle Productions be any different?