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Pixiestix
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Joined: 26 Aug 2004 Posts: 2465 Location: Tomorrow's Talk Studios
now see, that i'm fine with. If you add that, please do let me know.
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:40 am
rose
...and then Magic happens
Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Posts: 4117
I'm going out on a limb here but I see this a bit differently. I think that it is easy to expect people to behave a certain way when posting on the forums, because we already know what the unwritten rules are. So we can get frustrated when people don't comply. But how will new people know what the rules are when they are new? These players aren't being trolls or hurting anything, they are just letting people know they want to play.
I understand getting annoyed. I remember feeling annoyed initially with the influx of Halo players in ilb. They didn't know how to do anything. But we have to weigh our annoyance with some small personal inconvience against the huge value to us of keeping the door wide open and welcoming new players. The great majority of players lurk and never feel comfortable posting at all. We need to make players feel welcomed so they will want to stay around and keep contributing.
I think that the more experienced players almost have an unwritten obligation to provide that support and welcome to new players. That is part of our job - welcoming them, not complaining or criticizing them if they annoy us. One of the beauties of this place is you never know who is going to walk in the door or what talent, skills, emotions, viewpoints they bring with them. We need that diversity.
We have to keep that door wide open, or even better, break the door down so there is no barrier to anyone who wants to join us and play a game.
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 11:43 am
vpisteve
Asshatministrator
Joined: 30 Sep 2002 Posts: 2441 Location: 1987
I'd agree there, Rose. Open arms, people. Open arms.
As for me, the best thing about "I'M IN" posts is that they often give away shills' IPs for me to ban.
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:36 pm
Ozy_y2k
Unfettered
Joined: 25 Sep 2002 Posts: 460 Location: Carmel, Indiana
I'm....uh....in. No, out. No, wait....AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!
Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 1:56 pm
vpisteve
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Joined: 30 Sep 2002 Posts: 2441 Location: 1987
See? Shills come out of the woodwork.....
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:46 pm
Phaedra
Lurker v2.0
Joined: 21 Sep 2004 Posts: 4033 Location: Here, obviously
Ozy_y2k wrote:
I'm....uh....in. No, out. No, wait....AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!
Holy crap, he's alive.
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:49 pm
konamouse
Official uF Dietitian
Joined: 02 Dec 2002 Posts: 8010 Location: My own alternate reality
Ozy_y2k wrote:
I'm....uh....in. No, out. No, wait....AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!
Wait, isn't this just someone pretending to be Ozzy?
Afterall, he hasn't been seen nor heard in ages...and totally skipped out on the wonderfulness of ARGFest x 3....
Has he come back to the fold???????
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 2:58 pm
Rekidk
Entrenched
Joined: 19 Dec 2006 Posts: 992 Location: Indiana, USA
Ozy_y2k wrote:
I'm....uh....in. No, out. No, wait....AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!
Hey, I know you! You're from the archives!
/newbsunite
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Posted: Mon Mar 19, 2007 3:27 pm
krystyn
I Never Tire of My Own Voice
Joined: 26 Sep 2002 Posts: 3651 Location: Is not Chicago
I think I need a special button that will automagically post, "Gupfee is my favorite" when I need it.
Which is often.
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 11:35 am
thebruce
Dances With Wikis
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 6899 Location: Kitchener, Ontario
I was going to post something meaningful and helpful about the annoyances but dealing with it and agreeing with kona, but it's all been covered already... and gupfee took the cake
so I guess, uh...
I'm in! I agree!
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Posted: Tue Mar 20, 2007 10:06 pm
djsampson
Unfettered
Joined: 12 Sep 2006 Posts: 393 Location: INDY
I am sorry but, I have to play devils advocate here. The same thing that pixie is complaning about she did in this post. There is no information for the game in this part of the post. So isn't this also adding to clutter, by posting non-game information?
Pixiestix wrote:
also... this is what, 6 pages of mostly "i'm in" posts??? Once upon a time, we didn't just say "i'm in" we discussed what needed to be discussed if we had nothing to discuss we didn't. We don't need a roll call guys, really.
This is something that almost every ARG has in it. Posting "Im In" posts also helps boost the popularity of an ARG. An ARG that only has a few pages on its kick off doesn't seem to make it to make it out of news and rumors until it is half way over. I see alot of players joining a game because it has a longer page count.
These type of things happen. I think everyone at one point in time has posted something totally irrelevent on a thread. I think roll call is easier to run through, rather than 20 pages of speculation you will see on some games.
I like to see who is involved in different ARGs when I join in. I think it helps to bolster that sense of community we all love here on UF. As a player, to know that some of the players you have played with befor are following something with you. And as a PM having your thread jump up to six pages before your ARG launches is also a bonus.
I can't see anyone really having to much of a problem skipping over 6 pages. Exspecially if ther are just "Im In" posts.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 12:32 am
vpisteve
Asshatministrator
Joined: 30 Sep 2002 Posts: 2441 Location: 1987
krystyn wrote:
I think I need a special button that will automagically post, "Gupfee is my favorite" when I need it.
Which is often.
/me flips Krystyn off.
Again.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 2:32 am
Giskard
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Joined: 07 Oct 2003 Posts: 2066 Location: Chicago
djsampson wrote:
I can't see anyone really having to much of a problem skipping over 6 pages. Exspecially if ther are just "Im In" posts.
Well, one of the problems that both Pixie and Kona expressed in chat if I remember correctly, was that when you set up an e-mail alert for updates in a certain thread, you keep getting alerts for totally useless thread updates (useless as in, there's no advancement in the game, yet there is advancement in the thread).
I think that that is a valid point and can be a real annoyance, but then again I think that since the 'new' forums don't only remember unread posts from your last visit to the forums in general, but from your last visit to specific threads, e-mail notifications have gotten rather redundant.
Bottom line, as has been said before in this thread, there's no way to manage all the chatter on these boards by adding more rules to the TOS, apart from the fact that I think it's pretty undesirable to do so, as it'll take much of the fun away. We just have to face dealing with the more cluttering side-effects.
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 3:09 am
thebruce
Dances With Wikis
Joined: 16 Aug 2004 Posts: 6899 Location: Kitchener, Ontario
Giskard wrote:
Well, one of the problems that both Pixie and Kona expressed in chat if I remember correctly, was that when you set up an e-mail alert for updates in a certain thread, you keep getting alerts for totally useless thread updates
Whatever happened to including the comment body in the email notification? I found that extremely useful and handy. Now the only choice is to click through the thread... if the comment was in the email, you'd still have to click through to reset the notification process, but at least you'd be able to see if the post is significant or not.
It doesn't even have to be the full comment if it's a matter of saving bandwidth on emails... just the first 1000 characters or something. something
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 8:58 am
rose
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Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Posts: 4117
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Whatever happened to including the comment body in the email notification? I found that extremely useful and handy.
Was that a modification to the old forums that disappeared when they, for some reason left us (oh yeah hacked!) and were replaced by these new, shiny ones?
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Posted: Wed Mar 21, 2007 9:18 am
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