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Should we have an emphraxiscore.com/.org/.info/whatever website?

Yes
50%
 50%  [ 10 ]
Yes
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
No
15%
 15%  [ 3 ]
No
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
Yes, but different name (post your suggestion!)
35%
 35%  [ 7 ]

Total Votes : 20

 
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peter_magenheimer
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emphraxiscore.com website...

I'd be perfectly happy to host and pay for "emphraxiscore.com", as a center for all Metacortechs ARG activity (like cloudmakers.org). Mainly, I just wanted to make sure this was the name we agreed on, and see if people were interested.

The site could have...

- News / Updates
- Discussion forum (or just a link to this forum
- A section made specially for newbies to the game, with links to guides, primers, good discussion topics, etc.
- An archive of all files, images, etc. (like BriEnigma's netninja archive, or probably just the same thing mirrored, if its okay with him)
- #matrix IRC transcript... Smile
- Multiple moderators, administrators (I don't want to be the only one)
- Anything else you suggest

So tell me what you think, and add your vote to the poll.

[NOTE] Since some people (*ahem*) seem to be so confused by the poll, I would like to clarify.

This poll simply asks whether or not you would like to have a central website for the people involved in solving this ARG. "emphraxiscore.com" is not set in stone, it's just a random suggestion I threw out based loosely on some frequently seen opinions on these forums. So, please just vote "Yes" if you would like to have a website that I'll pay for and host, or "No" if you think we don't need one or whatever. We can worry about the name later.

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Unbelievably cool idea. The name is good too, btw.
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Plus, we could have the 'book' there (from this thread: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3151&start=0 ), which would (I think) be far more appropriate to have on the Internet considering the nature of both this game and of the Matrix itself; although, I'm sure if someone is willing to find a publisher we could publish it.
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King Mob wrote:
Plus, we could have the 'book' there (from this thread: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3151&start=0 ), which would (I think) be far more appropriate to have on the Internet considering the nature of both this game and of the Matrix itself; although, I'm sure if someone is willing to find a publisher we could publish it.




This is just sounding better and better! Very Happy
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I'm not so sure it would be a great idea to transplant the message board to another site at this stage in the game. While it would be cool to have a good, consistent place to house a lot of information (for instance, the IRC logs or a mirror of the Netninja stuff), I'm not so sure a lot of the hard-core ARG'ers will want to give up the community they have built here. There is the option of people participating on multiple message boards, but personally, I have a hard enough time keeping up with a single one.
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BriEnigma wrote:
I'm not so sure it would be a great idea to transplant the message board to another site at this stage in the game. While it would be cool to have a good, consistent place to house a lot of information (for instance, the IRC logs or a mirror of the Netninja stuff), I'm not so sure a lot of the hard-core ARG'ers will want to give up the community they have built here. There is the option of people participating on multiple message boards, but personally, I have a hard enough time keeping up with a single one.


I second that. A repository of information would be awesome, though. This forum is too good to change right now...if we moved to a new one, we wouldn't have the backlog of archives for people to search through for info...I like the idea of a site, but for forums it should just link here.

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Omnie wrote:
BriEnigma wrote:
I'm not so sure it would be a great idea to transplant the message board to another site at this stage in the game. While it would be cool to have a good, consistent place to house a lot of information (for instance, the IRC logs or a mirror of the Netninja stuff), I'm not so sure a lot of the hard-core ARG'ers will want to give up the community they have built here. There is the option of people participating on multiple message boards, but personally, I have a hard enough time keeping up with a single one.


I second that. A repository of information would be awesome, though. This forum is too good to change right now...if we moved to a new one, we wouldn't have the backlog of archives for people to search through for info...I like the idea of a site, but for forums it should just link here.



I have to agree with this.
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Insomniac wrote:
Omnie wrote:
BriEnigma wrote:
I'm not so sure it would be a great idea to transplant the message board to another site at this stage in the game. While it would be cool to have a good, consistent place to house a lot of information (for instance, the IRC logs or a mirror of the Netninja stuff), I'm not so sure a lot of the hard-core ARG'ers will want to give up the community they have built here. There is the option of people participating on multiple message boards, but personally, I have a hard enough time keeping up with a single one.


I second that. A repository of information would be awesome, though. This forum is too good to change right now...if we moved to a new one, we wouldn't have the backlog of archives for people to search through for info...I like the idea of a site, but for forums it should just link here.



I have to agree with this.


Ditto.
I'd also be willing to act as an administrator/moderator.
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Omnie wrote:
BriEnigma wrote:
I'm not so sure it would be a great idea to transplant the message board to another site at this stage in the game. While it would be cool to have a good, consistent place to house a lot of information (for instance, the IRC logs or a mirror of the Netninja stuff), I'm not so sure a lot of the hard-core ARG'ers will want to give up the community they have built here. There is the option of people participating on multiple message boards, but personally, I have a hard enough time keeping up with a single one.


I second that. A repository of information would be awesome, though. This forum is too good to change right now...if we moved to a new one, we wouldn't have the backlog of archives for people to search through for info...I like the idea of a site, but for forums it should just link here.


All right, I get the idea. No forum. Smile I was thinking the same thing, since this site has become so popular.

Also, just to clarify, the poll isn't really for suggestions for the name of our group, just for the website. Yes means "yes, register and launch www.emphraxiscore.com", no means "no, the website's a bad idea", and Yes, but use a different name means "yes to the website, but use a different name for the WEBSITE, not for the group."

I'm pretty sure we settled on Emphraxis Core.

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I agree: No forum. But, it would be fun to have a blog updated by 4 or 5 people that would have the latest updates and theories.
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peter_magenheimer wrote:
I'm pretty sure we settled on Emphraxis Core.


Who's "WE"?

I know there was a topic for it, but did we get a vote on the name?

I personally don't like the name, nor the Word-Art logos that I saw on there. If you're going to go with that name, enlist someone with art skills (no offense to the person who did it, it just isn't fabulous).

My $0.02.

Oh, and also, the website is a bad idea, unless it's a pointer to BrianEnigma's site. It's got most all the info we need.

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trip wrote:
I agree: No forum. But, it would be fun to have a blog updated by 4 or 5 people that would have the latest updates and theories.


That would be a relief! Catching up on four days worth of stuff is tough on your own (and that wasn't a pitch for getting to do the job, just letting you know that it takes time for one person).

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peter_magenheimer wrote:
I'm pretty sure we settled on Emphraxis Core.

I'm pretty sure we didn't settle on anything, at least not as a group in any transparent way. Here's how we got to where we are now:

There was another topic where people were suggesting names. That stopped when someone suggested that no more names should be suggested. One of my pet peeves that I see in this forum is when people try to dictate to others what they should discuss or what ideas they should pursue or suggest. If a topic doesn't interest you, don't read it. But don't tell other people not to discuss it or consider it.
This abrupt halt to the discussion left the door wide open for someone who likes a certain name to foist it upon us by putting it in their signature in bold and on some clothing.

This has now been followed by a vague poll question with a logically incomplete set of categories: By responding no in your poll, one indicates they don't see the need for another website, but offers no opinion about whether or not they like the name suggested. As such, it's a very misleading instrument, because people who do not want another website don't necessarily feel one way or the other about the suggested name.

Your poll mixes the questions of 'do we want an information website' with 'what name do we want to associate with it and ourselves'. If it is purely about the website, no name should have been mentioned. If it is about both a website and naming, a fourth category is needed that says 'No to the website, but yes to Emphraxis Core'.

By using the name as an example as you have (as if it is already the consensus pick) in combination with a rather misleading poll, you have added to the 'this is what everyone wants, right?' movement, without ever giving a fair chance to any other choices. There has never been a fair process that picked that name. I'm glad that in your post above you acknowledge that your poll is not such a process. I hope we don't end up picking a name by dint of volume and a false sense of consensus suggested by a few people.
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Creating the website is 1% about getting the domain and hosting and 99% about content.. If a group of people are REALLY willing to maintain it then by all means go ahead..

But before you do, take a look at http://www.cloudmakers.org/ which is a perfect example of what the end result should be. If you think you can do that, then I would love to see it.

The name will be discussed very soon.

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xnbomb wrote:
peter_magenheimer wrote:
I'm pretty sure we settled on Emphraxis Core.

I'm pretty sure we didn't settle on anything, at least not as a group in any transparent way. Here's how we got to where we are now:

There was another topic where people were suggesting names. That stopped when someone suggested that no more names should be suggested. One of my pet peeves that I see in this forum is when people try to dictate to others what they should discuss or what ideas they should pursue or suggest. If a topic doesn't interest you, don't read it. But don't tell other people not to discuss it or consider it.
This abrupt halt to the discussion left the door wide open for someone who likes a certain name to foist it upon us by putting it in their signature in bold and on some clothing.

This has now been followed by a vague poll question with a logically incomplete set of categories: By responding no in your poll, one indicates they don't see the need for another website, but offers no opinion about whether or not they like the name suggested. As such, it's a very misleading instrument, because people who do not want another website don't necessarily feel one way or the other about the suggested name.

Your poll mixes the questions of 'do we want an information website' with 'what name do we want to associate with it and ourselves'. If it is purely about the website, no name should have been mentioned. If it is about both a website and naming, a fourth category is needed that says 'No to the website, but yes to Emphraxis Core'.

By using the name as an example as you have (as if it is already the consensus pick) in combination with a rather misleading poll, you have added to the 'this is what everyone wants, right?' movement, without ever giving a fair chance to any other choices. There has never been a fair process that picked that name. I'm glad that in your post above you acknowledge that your poll is not such a process. I hope we don't end up picking a name by dint of volume and a false sense of consensus suggested by a few people.


How indirectly harsh...

I personally think the name "Emphraxis Core" is pretty bad too, but I figured the majority of people had agreed on it, based on some various posts, IRC chats, etc. Obviously I was wrong, and I apologize for that.

In response to your complaints about the poll, I thought I had already explained that in the PM I sent to you and in my 2nd post to this thread. Right now, I am NOT looking for opinions on the name of the group itself, I simply want to know if people think it'd be good to have a central website for said group. "insertnamehere.com"... Once again, I apologize profusely for any confusion this may have caused... However, it seems that xnbomb is the only one confused by it.

But it's too late to change it now, so I guess I can't make it "logically complete"... Oh well.

[EDIT] Nevermind, it's not too late...

UGH... this is annoying... Would a moderator please close this topic, as the poll is getting screwed up, and I can't seem to edit it anymore.

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