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[NEW] Beth's Little-Boxes update log
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kyinuri
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i don't care if this game is official or not. this is getting as exciting as the movies were. can't wait till this is all over so i can read the complete story line. beth has become such a great character in this game. the amazing theories and adventures beth will have when she finally has time to rest and fully think about what has happened to her recently. i've been mostly lurking, but i can safely say that i am just as involved with this game as the puzzle crackers around here. i can't sleep. i want updates. i want speculations. i want theories.

i've freed my mind and i want more!!!

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her last post is really creepy...

her boss simply told her they were dead? and how about the GC collecting them from the "system"? the matrix? I mean... how can she understand that? she should've woken up already if it were the Matrix...

this is quite interesting...
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mulder wrote:

she should've woken up already if it were the Matrix...


Not necessarily - Neo had to have help to get out of the Matrix, and he was willing to open his mind to the possibility of something really weird going on with the world (rather than simply following anomalies, and trying to find a 'logical' explanation for them); if you remember the marathon runner/sprinter in the Animatrix, he was able to break free (kind of) because of his exceptional running abilities (I think; since the 'running' was all in his mind, that speed and strength was ultimately translated to his mind, hence he woke up); but Neo didn't really have anything exceptional about him (at least, nothing he realised until some one showed it to him).
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21:36 A wise man told me today that there are many things in this world that are not meant to be understood, many questions that are meant to remain unanswered. My entire life has been driven by a desire to answer every question, to gain an understanding of my surroundings. I have never been one to operate on concepts of faith and destiny, yet today they have become very important to me.

During lunch, I learned that a dear friend passed away. We were so close, inseparable at times. He was so full of life and filled mine. I haven't seen him in so long and never had a chance to say to goodbye, to tell him how much he meant to me. I don't regret that, but I do wish that I had had the opportunity. He gave me so much and asked for so little. I miss him. With everything that I have learned in the past few days, this, the most natural, is the hardest to accept.

You are probably wondering what this has to do with the log of events, with faith and destiny. It has everything to do with it. I learned of his death and that of his ex-wife, who also passed away, through My Friend. From what I have been able to gather, he was responsible for removing them from the system. Something went wrong and it wasn't completely successful. While discussing the situation surrounding their death, My Friend was able to regain crucial information that has allowed him to ascertain the nature of his malfunction. I do not want to understand what this all means. It is just not something that I am ready to comprehend. So you see it was destiny that brought My Friend and I together. That allowed us each a certain sense of peace, a certain understanding.

The dear friend that passed away had a son. He's now alone and scared and in trouble. He blames himself for everything that has happened and feels so guilty. He's in trouble. I don't know what he's gotten himself into or how it all happened, but I do know that he needs help. I didn't know where to turn but I knew that My Friend could help him. We talked about it tonight. He agreed to help. I don't know how. I don't know that it will be successful. I fear his power. Yet I have faith that it will work. It has to work.


Does this throw a wrench into the works or what?!?!?

I assume that Beth is talking about Avery and his ex-wife, and it sounds like she's also talking about Jesse... If so, who the heck is Dina and Ethan's son???? Or are we coming back to the idea that James Avery was Jesse's father, and Dina/Sylvia his mother? If so, then Avery would have been "with" (possibly married) to Sylvia/Dina and "Mrs. Avery" and "sort of with" Beth also...

There's just too many things that are a possiblity now... Who are Dina and Ethan? And if they were Sylvia/Ryan, what's the point? How are they related to any of the other characters?

I'm really confused now.

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Right now she is well past that age when they usually rescue people from the Matrix. So now she's having a real hard time accepting things. And it's going to be very hard. Her 2nd to last e-mail to Phill displays this. It shows her confusion. If GC is a computer program, and can affect the world that she lives in, what does that say about the world she lives in? When or if she wakes up, she'll blow chunks. Sorry for the graphics but it's true.

Okay, okay that is if this is a matrix arg.
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Or are we coming back to the idea that James Avery was Jesse's father, and Dina/Sylvia his mother? If so, then Avery would have been "with" (possibly married) to Sylvia/Dina and "Mrs. Avery" and "sort of with" Beth also...


We know this much, since we have Jesse's driver's license, and there it is, "Jesse Avery". One theory goes that after the Averys were recycled by AI Man, they became the Nekodas, but then the question becomes "who the heck were the Emersons!?"

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joebrent wrote:
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Or are we coming back to the idea that James Avery was Jesse's father, and Dina/Sylvia his mother? If so, then Avery would have been "with" (possibly married) to Sylvia/Dina and "Mrs. Avery" and "sort of with" Beth also...


We know this much, since we have Jesse's driver's license, and there it is, "Jesse Avery". One theory goes that after the Averys were recycled by AI Man, they became the Nekodas, but then the question becomes "who the heck were the Emersons!?"



See here:
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=3251
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21:21 Impossibly difficult day. Saying goodbye is never easy. Exhausted, but I'm all packed and ready to go. I'll be home soon, but I'll never be the same.


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Medemia wrote:
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21:21 Impossibly difficult day. Saying goodbye is never easy. Exhausted, but I'm all packed and ready to go. I'll be home soon, but I'll never be the same.


Just wait until you get home Beth. BE CAREFUL!!!
Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool Cool
(except I don't think they will be smiling, more like sneering)

We'll see.

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bethmcconnell went off AIM last night around 12:30 AM Eastern Standard. Will she be back on when she gets settled in? Or was last weekend our last interraction with her?
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i doubt it but i dont think it will be on that kind of a scale as in ims of all sorts
but i really think we will be able to post to her bb and she will interact that way
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New one!

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Three nights in my own home, in my own bed, haven’t made any of this easier. No matter what I do, what I try, I can’t leave that little spot in the woods where my life changed forever. I keep trying to accept it all, but that acceptance doesn’t come. So now I find myself going over my notes and over this log in an attempt to let it go and to move on.

I’ll never forget leaning against the car attempting to come to grips with James’ death. It had been two years since I, since anyone, had seen him. When I looked up, I saw his shadow walking up the road. It wasn’t his shadow, it was his son. He looks just like his mother, but his spirit and his stature is that of his dad. I could almost feel James right there. We spoke for a few minutes before I could tell him that his parents had passed away and that they wouldn’t be coming back. He was strong. If I didn’t know better, he already knew in his heart. Yet he couldn’t believe it. He couldn’t stop searching, stop hoping.

He was scared. His face, his eyes, they just showed terror and sadness. He was dealing with far more than a kid his age should. I learned that he was in trouble, big trouble. “My friend” watched from the shadows as Jesse and I cried and held each other. I noticed him observing us, almost as scientifically as I had observed him.

When Jesse left, I explained to him the situation. He seemed to understand the nature of Jesse’s troubles and my desire, my need, to help him. We talked about what we could do to protect Jesse from what we can only assume to be “monitors”. He thought that he knew of a way but he didn’t know if he could make it work. I didn’t know the details. I didn’t know that it would be his demise. I told Jesse before we could think it through all the way.

The next morning a man arrived. He was scared, lost, confused. His wife was killed the day before and he believed Jesse to be his son. Ethan was such a sweet man and it broke my heart when I heard him cry out as he learned that Jesse was a friend’s child that he had taken in. He had grabbed onto the hope of Jesse being a connection to his wife and that was broken. It was as if he went through her death all over again.

I couldn’t help. I was too busy with “My Friend”. Too busy watching him struggle over what he had to do. We talked about the ramifications of it all, the power that it would take, the danger that it would bring. He wanted me to leave. I couldn’t. I just had to witness it. I had to know that it worked. I promised to leave as soon as it happened and to never look back. The monitors wouldn’t know about me. As he had explained, they were given one task and they pursued it until it was completed. I was safe.

It was hard packing up knowing that I’d never see any of these people again. “My Friend” had truly become a friend. I enjoyed discussing the nature of man with him. I longed to discuss the nature of machine. I didn’t want to say goodbye. I didn’t want to know that he would be gone by the end of the night. And Jesse, so much of his father. He is truly an amazing child, an amazing young man. James would be so proud. And his friends, all so bright. They had so much of a future, would it all be gone? And Ethan, so lost and so alone. Yet he now had a dozen kids that he seemed to need and they seemed to need him. We all walked into this crazy situation and I was the only one walking out of it. It didn’t seem fair. It didn’t seem right. They all helped me pack, we pretended that the next hour wasn’t going to happen.

But it did. None of us will ever be the same. They are trapped in a world that is not ours. I am trapped in a world that is. And “My Friend”, I can’t let myself think of his fate, because he was most surely destroyed. I miss him. I miss them all.

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Yet he now had a dozen kids that he seemed to need and they seemed to need him. We all walked into this crazy situation and I was the only one walking out of it. It didn't seem fair. It didn't seem right. They all helped me pack, we pretended that the next hour wasn't going to happen.

But it did. None of us will ever be the same. They are trapped in a world that is not ours. I am trapped in a world that is. And "My Friend", I can't let myself think of his fate, because he was most surely destroyed. I miss him. I miss them all.


So Ethan and the Urchins are in the loophole. Beth isn't, AI Man is gone, Kat's sleeping with the fishes, now MLO and Wongmo/Elvis have to be hit by a meteor or something and we're all wrapped up

But what was that part about Jesse being some kid Ethan had taken in? Was he and Dina the adopted father and mother? Did I miss something?

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joebrent wrote:

But what was that part about Jesse being some kid Ethan had taken in? Was he and Dina the adopted father and mother? Did I miss something?


Uhhh... yeah!!!!

http://ethan.thenekodas.com

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I?ll never forget leaning against the car attempting to come to grips with James? death. It had been two years since I, since anyone, had seen him.


More proof that he disappeared in Dec of 2001.

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The monitors wouldn?t know about me. As he had explained, they were given one task and they pursued it until it was completed. I was safe.


We had spec'd that she was in danger.. this is telling us that she isn't.

Or, at least she isn't in danger from the Monitors... we still don't know what Kat gave Agent Jones.

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They are trapped in a world that is not ours. I am trapped in a world that is. And ?My Friend?, I can?t let myself think of his fate, because he was most surely destroyed. I miss him. I miss them all.


She knows she is trapped in this world.

Will she look for a way out? I doubt that GC knew that there are people outside of the Matrix that can help people wanting out.

I wonder if Jesse told Beth about paintover?

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