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[TRAILHEAD] thehumanpet...ARG or something really sick?
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cissmiace
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Yeah I think thats been discussed already. How the CM was in love with sue and Eric stole sue etc etc. Or something along those lines.
Like a episode from dynasty Shocked
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bit before my time, but i get the reference.

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ZeikHunter wrote:



edit: what page was the pic of the woman's hand on? cant remember if it was the left or the right, and which finger the ring was on. my mind's thinking "engagement"


That is exactly what leads me to believe that the deceased girl is "Sue", and she is the question mark in the middle. It's makes sense because the link on the question mark's left is an arrow from the sqaure...showing maybe a relationship (but only relationship, no marriage) to Eric? And then the right of the question mark is directly linked, as in marriage.

Gahhh, I can't wait to get home! I have lots of typing to do to explain my theories and I am anxious. Lol.

ZeikHunter wrote:
cissmiace wrote:
ZeikHunter wrote:
we dont know if he wore the mask (or that particular one) for the others.


Yeah, but I was just refering to if Eric knew him, he would recognise him. Like I said, I would recognise someone I knew.

edit; yeah it was the engagement ring finger =)


cool. but i can speak from personal experince here when i say its possible theyve never met. SHE could've been seeing one of them on the side. im thinkig eric was "the other man". but then, did we ever learn definitively if that was her body? how much do we know about sue?


I brought up that theory a while ago. Smile
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I still think he could kick his way out... a guy got out of the mental ward here in charlotte by kicking through 5 walls.

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cissmiace
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*nothing to add to the game but:*

ZeikHunter wrote:
bit before my time, but i get the reference.


wow I'm 26 and suddenly I feel oooooooooold xD

Wabonan wrote:
I still think he could kick his way out... a guy got out of the mental ward here in charlotte by kicking through 5 walls.


Shocked wow, escaped man is my new god
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ForeverMourn
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Sorry I was gone all day. I was editing, and now my new vlog is uploading.

Summer, I can't wait for the new ideas and theories.

Hi to all the new people! I'm so happy to have you guys aboard! Seriously! I heart you already, 4 sho.

The Sue-Eric-Cm love triangle has been around for a while, and a lot of our clues add fuel to that fire.

And one more thing, has someone started working on the summary of videos and clues and puzzles? If not I can do one, but I don't want to start working on it if someone else is.

EDIT- ZeikHunter- "how much do we know about sue?"
Actually, we don't know anything about Sue. We only got the clue, "Sue Hart See John" and we ran with Idea the girl in the video with Eric was named Sue. NOTHING HAS BEEN CONFIRMED THAT IS HER NAME. IT IS OUR SPECULATION ONLY! Nothing about the Sue-Eric-CM triangle is confirmed.

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AtionSong
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Okay, first thing - I think we should consider creating a separate thread for the pedigree puzzle. When threads are getting four to five new pages of posts a day, isn't it a good idea to split them up?

Secondly, look at the pedigree (put down here again for conveinence)


First, look at the three question marks:

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(x) indicated deceased

Dad2(x)------Mom2          Mom(x)----------Dad(x)     
             |   |               |    |
             |   Son(x)---Wife   |    |
             |                   |    |
             A------------------Man   C
             |
             B

First thing to note - B is shown as a line leading directly down from A, not as a line between A and Man... So either A spontaneously gave birth to a child on her own, or A and Man were married, and A had a child out of wedlock. This would be the "secret that could destroy this family" that Michael was talking about. (I think this has been mentioned before).

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ForeverMourn
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Seperate thread for Puzzle

http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=314423#314423

It is going to take me a sec to get all the info in my original post. Sit tight.

Arg... I got it started, but my Hubby is home. So I gotta go cook. If the clue summary is still unposted in the morning, or by late tonight, I will start on it. My vlog for this week is finished, so I'll have no interruptions tomorrow. (Except the cake I'm going to bake, lol.)

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AtionSong
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Not connected to pedigree directly, so posting here.

Look at the attatched image comparing Mary in the video to one of the people in CMs resume. Look similar to anyone else?
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NovaChild
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AtionSong wrote:
Look similar to anyone else?


Not really. I mean, if you're saying they're the same person, then no. If you're just saying that they may be related, it's a possibility.

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This is gonna be a loooong post, lol.

I'd like start off saying that when you read this, keep an open mind. This game is proving the idea that anything is possible within the story, no matter how dark or taboo or twisted or unconventional it may seem to certain people.

So I had a lot of time today to sit and think about possible theories that could apply to solving the Pedigree Puzzle...I drew countless pedigree charts on paper today, sitting and brainstorming about what possibilities I could come up with. Some were good, some not so good. But a couple of things stuck with me throughout the day...

Going back to the CM's last video...anyone else think it was rather bizarre to add hippies and nudists into his video reply? I certainly did. To me, it was just plain weird. Why hippies and nudists, of all ways to reply?

You know the CM never puts in random stuff like that just for the hell of it. There is ALWAYS a reason behind it.

And then an idea dawned on me. It could quite possibly be a clue to us solving the mystery of the pedigree chart.

I started researching hippies and their way of living once I got home. I found some interesting reads at these two places: http://www.hippy.com/article-87.html and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hippie

I found some interesting information on Wikipedia about hippies and their way of living. As everyone knows, the hippie's outlooks on life were to free themselves of society's restrictions and to choose their own way and find their own meaning in life. They believed in the whole "love & peace" thing. They dressed funny. They didn't shower. They participated in all sorts of political demonstrations.They did just about every single drug known to man. They traveled everywhere in their VW buses covered in flowers and peace signs spreading their way of life through song and literature. And they lived in communes.

How does this apply to the pedigree, you may ask?

I kept reading the Wiki article, and they conveniently had a little section that described hippies and their views on love and sexuality:

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Hippies regularly flouted societal prohibitions against interracial dating and marriage. They were early advocates for the repeal of anti-miscegenation laws that the Supreme Court of the United States declared unconstitutional in 1967 (Loving v. Virginia), but which remained on the books in some U.S. states until 2000, albeit unenforced.

With their emphasis on Free Love, hippies promoted many of the same counterculture beliefs that found early expression in the Beat Generation. Co-habitation among unmarried couples was the norm, open relationships were common, and both Beats and Hippies advocated for legal and societal acceptance of most forms of consensual sexual expression among adults.

With regard to homosexuality and bisexuality, the Beats had demonstrated early tolerance during an era when homosexual expression of any sort was still punishable by stiff prison sentences. Hippies generally espoused the same tolerant attitude.

Hippies, as in the movie Woodstock, were casual about open nudity.


Now this may be VERY out there, but i'm going to give it a shot, and see what happens...

I believe the idea of hippie ways of living plays a role within this story. Or maybe even life in a commune. Or maybe even just the hippie lifestyle in general.

Now you may think it's crazy. But I think it may just play some sort of role. And here is a crazy idea that I had.

In the Wiki article on love and sexuality beliefs of hippies, it stated that hippies commonly had open relationships between them, their spouse, and other people. Meaning that the man and woman could have a relationship between themselves, but they were also allowed to have relationships (physical or emotional or both at once) with other people at the same time.

I believe this could somehow apply to the story. And to the pedigree chart.

Notice how on the pedigree, the bottom left square is only linked to the question mark by an arrow. A marriage link is a straight line and directly connected horizontally. This however is not; it is signifying that the square and question mark are both linked but not directly as in marriage. So could this signify a seperate "romantic" relationship? I believe so at least.

Now here's where I get a bit deeper into it. And here's a possibility I came up with.

1) What if the Taylors had...hippie beliefs on such subjects? I'm not saying the whole family went and smoked cannibus everyday and put flowers in their hair or whatever. But I view it like this...maybe Michael and Linda were into the whole hippie life back when they were young adults. And maybe as time progressed they decided it wasn't right for them, and decided to return to a conventional way of life and start a family. However it doesn't mean that they necessarily forgot their roots. Maybe Eric and Mary adapted some of the beliefs their parents once believed in. Maybe that is what Eric believed when he got into a relationship with Sue...that open relationships were not bad according to his beliefs. Thus the CM, being the highly religious being he is, find this unholy and against the word of God and such and feels the urge to codemn Eric and Sue of their sins himself.

Michael Taylor said in his letter to Andrew that he "wanted to tell us the truth but the investigators told him it'd be best not to tell us because it might scare us off". Now I think that his deep secret somehow ties in with this. It doesn't have to be EXACTLY as I said...maybe bits and pieces of it tie in, but I do believe it ties in somehow with the idea behind my theory.

Feel free to disagree or agree however much you want. Feel free to pull ideas from this to make your own theories, add your own opinion, whatever! I do enjoy feedback though. Smile

Ok, so now for my self made charts. I went through ALL of the sketches I made of pedigree charts at work today. Believe me, there were tons, and now that I look back on them, most just don't make any sense, lol.

There are 15 people on this chart all together, including circles, squares, and question marks. There are 4 crossed out people on the chart, believed to be deceased. I kept this in mind while making my chart, and I think everyone else should as well.

Here is what I have come up with so far that seems most logical (SCROLL DOWN AND CLICK ON IMAGE).

1) As you can see, to the left are the Taylors. Eric is linked by arrow to Sue Hart, who I linked to what I think makes sense to put there...John ("Sue Hart see John"). The phrase to me means that Sue Hart is seeing John, as in marriage. When you apply it to the pedigree, it makes sense. Eric and Sue are having an affair while she is married. The CM is the green box.

2) As you can see, to the left are the Taylors. Eric is linked by arrow to Sue Hart, who I linked to the CM. This supports the whole Eric-Sue-CM love triangle which I still have faith in. Eric and Sue are having an affair while she is married to the CM.

If I have anymore pedigree theories that seem logical, i'll post them.

Phew, that took FOREVER, lol. Hope to get some feedback on it. *crosses fingers*
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man that was a huge post, summer. and well done.

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They believed in the whole "love & peace" thing. They dressed funny. They didn't shower.


lol that bit was so funny.

i think a recurring theme with most people's pedigree ideas is that the top left of the three question marks is sue.

i still think that the "sue hart see john 8:32" clue means either:

sue hart, see 'john 8:32', which in the bible is "Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free".

or

"sue (hearts) e" - as in "sue loves eric" - with the john 8:32 bit on the end.

we still dont know if sue hart is actually a person - it was the result of decoding tags (if i remember right) and could be an anagram or red herring.

neil

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El Neil wrote:
man that was a huge post, summer. and well done.

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They believed in the whole "love & peace" thing. They dressed funny. They didn't shower.


lol that bit was so funny.

i think a recurring theme with most people's pedigree ideas is that the top left of the three question marks is sue.

i still think that the "sue hart see john 8:32" clue means either:

sue hart, see 'john 8:32', which in the bible is "Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free".

or

"sue (hearts) e" - as in "sue loves eric" - with the john 8:32 bit on the end.

we still dont know if sue hart is actually a person - it was the result of decoding tags (if i remember right) and could be an anagram or red herring.

neil


Awwww thanks El Neil Smile!

Well technically we sort of do know she's real thanks to the GHOSTS CAUGHT ON TAPE video. Eric calls her and leaves her a message, saying "Hey Sue, yadda yadda yadda...", so I find that proof enough that she is real.
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True Dat, Summer. He says, "Hi, Sue, This Is Eric."

But one thing, would you guys please post all Puzzle/Pedigree talk in this thread. There is really no need in double posting, it's just cluttering up the forum really bad. KThxBai. LoL.

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So really this entire thing on the gylf.
Once we think we find out what it really is..what do we do? Send what we think to the CM? And can we really be sure our ideas would be right? So really do we just wait for a clue so we can be sure?

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