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[Interaction]Chris Brown (cFreak@gmail.com)
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taureanfreak
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Him as in Chris Brown of 2037, the topic of this thread.... sorry, it was kinda late and I didn't think about specifying. As the kids say, "My Bad!"

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aah my bad too =P

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Just had a brief chat with Chris, and thought I'd share the love.

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me: hey chris--you in?
Chris: for a minute
what's up
me: got a quick question--you mentioned you knew what the murders were about
Chris: I don't know much ... just that slewth wasn't involved
me: care to elaborate? (sorry, i was convinced it had to have been slewth due to some circumstantial evidence and got overly concerned)
Chris: the deaths are interestingly similar
me: what HAS slewth been up to, anyway? beyond his recent discussion with will forth, i haven't seen neither head nor tail of him
yeah...they definitely center around the subcue chips. what can you actually do with a removed chip, anyway?
Chris: I haven't paid much attention to him since he got out
well
the corps deny it but there are rumors that its possible to reactivate them
me: ah....but wouldn't that just make it seem like a dead person is walking around?
and while that is what happened with the first case, they have a corpse
it would only be useful for the length of time between death and discovery
me: unless there's a large divide between tracking and monitoring.....hrm.
Chris: well ... many times the body may be discovered later ... and its written off as a skiver
Chris: the corps dont follow up on these things .. it spoils the illusion of Deus City
me: how often has this actually been happening? i mean, from the past we've seen the two incidents...but i'm assuming there have been substantially more
Chris: it breaks down the idea of security if there are people walking around who aren't who they say they're are
no one knows
me: ah yes...because we're dealing with "natural" deaths
Chris: right
me: well, whoever is doing this, i hope the benefits are worth the rather high costs. i understand collateral damage happens, but we haven't heard much about the actual people involved in these incidents beyond that they were skivers accused of terrorist activities
Chris: You might ask some questions to someone in the corps
me: thanks...i will.
Chris: just be careful
some people find this a bit of a touchy subject
me: i sent off an inquiry to ADPrince...while i have my current karma, i might as well take advantage of the doors it opens
me: oh, i have been proceeding quite cautiously
Chris: good
I must leave. Be careful.
me: ok...thanks for your help.
Chris: np


Nothing much there is news, but then I think I'm digging into something that's simply people in the Brotherhood killing people to practice identity theft.

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notgordian
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I just had a fairly long chat with Chris Brown (future). I'm providing an executive summary here which is still really long...if you want the full transcript, PM me or say "darn it, notgordian, post that sucker!"

ABOUT THE FOLIO CLUES ON THE INTERFACE
Chris doesn't know who's posting them, although he's worried it means the Brotherhood has someone with as much access as he does. An automated program randomly selects a news article that is then reviewed by someone at Defense-Corp. Foo then reviews that, and it's posted on our end (according to rumor). The changes are being made after review.

ABOUT HIS LOYALTIES
Chris believes that neither the Brotherhood nor Defense-Corp should be too powerful, and maintaining that balance is the only thing preventing war. He doesn't want the Brotherhood to have the folios because Adam keeps turning them into self-fulfilling prophecies. He'd rather a neutral party gets it.

ABOUT KETSUEKI
The only person he's been in contact with in the future was his handler (ADPrince) who downgraded him to green for being a "security risk". He's not associated with any existing factions, and Chris IS aware that there's resistance in the Red District.

ABOUT THE CORPORATE 8-ers
"A group of 8 students committed some terrorist acts. According to the official word they were all captured and executed. It wouldn't surprise me at all if one or more survived. "

ABOUT THE INTERFACE SHUTDOWN OF 2012
Chris believes that this was done by Foo and Defense-Corp. By 2009, information is being freely exchanged and the world government starts to meddle and argue about how the control of the system should be managed. Especially since corporations are benefiting more from the arrangement. People become too reliant on innovation from the future and stop actually doing stuff for themselves. Thus, it was a grab for power after the system served its use.

ABOUT THE SECOND FOLIO
Phil does have a daughter, and her parentage is a dangerous question to pursue, and people would be willing to kill to keep it a secret.

ALSO - People from the Red District are going to start chatting us up soon (even before the Red District itself goes live) and at least according to Chris, they shouldn't be trusted.

And like magic, they appear.
http://www.deuscity.com/profile.php?user_id=634 - Tara Mercer (related to Senator Mercer? confirmed: Sen. Thomas Mercer's wife)
http://www.deuscity.com/profile.php?user_id=635 - Detective Paul Kropp[/b]

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notgordian wrote:
ABOUT THE CORPORATE 8-ers
"A group of 8 students committed some terrorist acts. According to the official word they were all captured and executed. It wouldn't surprise me at all if one or more survived. "


I must have missed this story somewhere along the line. Or is it referring to the graffiti?

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notgordian
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Check the Deus City Times thread: in the last news posting, if you highlight the text (ctrl-a works fine) it tells you where to find a jpg of a news clipping about a terrorist organization called the Corporate Eighters. And on the back, apparently, it talks about a missing cat.

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Another mega-post conversation update with Chris...since the conversation was long, this is just a summary. As always, if you want the full transcript, all you gotta do is ask.

ABOUT THE HALTER YOUTH CENTER
It was a cross between an orphanage and a prison, where society's undesirables were kept. Rumors went around that strange "experiments" were done on the residents, and the fire was used as a cover for the research/work.

ABOUT THE MERCER FAMILY
Yes, Tara Mercer is indeed Phil's daughter. The dangerous questions are (according to Chris) "Does Tara know" and "are there others". Chris indicated that the mentions of Caligula et al are because he...gets around (to put it lightly).

As for Thomas, he's older than Tara but still the youngest senator--which doesn't say much, although we can now definitively say Foo is 58 and Brackin is 60. He's a philanthropist, and his hobby is "collecting things"--artifacts from the old world.

ABOUT WILL AND SLEWTH
Nothing definitive, but Chris did seem insistent that if Slewth was an ex-Corporate Eighter, that Will and Slewth were different people. That, and it would take a fairly large conspiracy for slewth to have been a member.

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I also had a chat with Chris, unfortunately no where near as meaty as notgordian's, but ...

I told Chris that I had a suspicion that Will Forth and Slewth were possibly one in the same, and after a little initial confusion, which I believe was actually Chris making sure that i had actually based this on something as opposed to just having a stab in the dark, he said he believed my theory was possible.

To be honest, that was about the sum total of new information, that I was able to get out of him, but having had a peep at notgordian's chat, it seems that this theory morphed into his chat, as if it was then a known, and seemed to use this to more or less prove that Slewth was not a member of the C8'ers.

Just my interpretation, and like the tv show "Catchphrase", I'm just saying what I see!!!


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Wang Guantao
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notgordian wrote:

ABOUT THE MERCER FAMILY
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As for Thomas, he's older than Tara but still the youngest senator--which doesn't say much, although we can now definitively say Foo is 58 and Brackin is 60. He's a philanthropist, and his hobby is "collecting things"--artifacts from the old world.


Hhmm, this might be a very dangerous assumption, but if he likes to "collect" old world artifacts, is there a chance that Thomas has one of those secret forbidden libraries of "old world" books and other things that Theophilus mentions in his early video?

[spec]
And why is Thomas senator if he's not of the original team... What has he achieved that elevated him to the circle of power?
Was he senator before Tara married him or after? Because if it's after, his promotion could be due to her relation to Phil, and Thomas might be covering a wilder side behind his drab conservative boring facade that we've heard of so far...
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Sorry, I left that info out because I thought it was already covered. Thomas became Senator as a reward for inventing the subcue chip.

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Probably was. I was just speccing with my head under my arm Very Happy

To quote earthworm jim
"My head is floppy"

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So, Chris finally got back to me on the "Darlene" thing and why it matters. As a review, Darlene is Tara's mom. And supposedly that's information people would be willing to kill to possess.

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Sorry I didn't respond to the question sooner, must have gotten lost in the shuffle somewhere. Political scandals take on a life of their own in 2037 just like they did in 2007. I'm not sure how much you know about American politics but if a major presidential candidate in the US in 2007 had an illegitimate child it could be devastating to their campaign. Remember only Foo really has any kind of absolute power and shareholders are able to remove senators. There's morality police among them just as there were in the public in your time. In fact the bastardization we have of religion here only makes that matter worse. Just imagine if all of the major religions had stopped fighting one another and conspired together to tell everyone what to do and how to think! That's sort of happened here.

Such a revelation could undermine both Phil and Thomas Mercer at the same time, eroding their power and to a senator power is everything. If either were to find out who leaked such information ... well lets just say it would not be surprising if that person were to disappear.

There's a flip side as well ... if anyone else knows about this they could use it in an attempt to gain power .. with Mercer's proximity to the entire subcue system this isn't out of the realm of possibility. An ambitious person might even try to eliminate all others who knew about it, to make sure they were the only one able to take advantage.

Chris


As an aside, here's a wild theory--maybe the end part isn't so theoretical, and Chris is the God Killer. Take advantage of Mercer's position to cause "accidents" for people who know too much about the secret. And let the blackmail continue. The end almost reads like an admission on Chris' part.

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Exchanged a few mails recently with Chris, I have suggested many theories and all seem to be wrong.

The first was subliminal messages (trigger phrases) enclosed in the newsfeeds, which I saw possibly being linked to the brainwashing experiments, as per the illuminati reading I had been doing.
====> Chris' searches came up with nothing.

The second was that all the murders attributed to the God Killer, didn't add up. My suggestion being that there was a lack of common Modus Operandi, this was kinda confirmed. (In chat but refers to victims - see later in post)
====> Chris believes that more murders have been attributed to the GK, than the GK actually committed. He specifically stated that the Mary Jansen killing just did not fit.

Third, was that two mysterious deaths, (Mary Jansen and Michael Kaiku), both had loose connections. Mary Jansen was hit by the public bus outside her appartments, which would have been the first "city controlled traffic accident since the system went online in 2018", as the Michael Kaiku accident was explained as a "limited programming" of the vehicles "self-drive" function.
The point I was trying to make here was that Transcorp Security may have capitalised on the Michael Kaiku accident, and "someone" may have accessed the city's AAG, to MAKE the Mary Jansen accident occur.
====> Chris has also dismissed this, and by implication that this is also a dead lead as, "I don't believe a list of Transcorp Security employees would help you even if it were possible. Know one knows how many people they employ but with all the secret programs, the front groups, the undercovers ... the number is probably in the hundreds of thousands.
" (which was in response to me asking for access footprints of the AAG).

Lastly, Chris thinks that we should be finding the commonalities in the victims, not the methodology of the murders. He has also stated that the relative importance of the victims seem to be increasing each time.


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Sorry for Double Posting but .... on a totally seperate matter ....


When the package I was expecting from Adam was in transit - I got a totally unsolicited e-mail from Chris warning me:


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Something I had nearly forgotten occurred to me. In your time you are about to receive a package from Brackin. When I was there you then sent that package to Foo. This must not happen this time. I don't believe you are a traitor, if in the past iteration of time he tricked you bribed you or whatever .. it doesn't matter .. don't send the package to Foo.

Chris



It was strange, as I hadn't disclosed it at that stage to anyone, and even stranger due to the fact that I didn't get it in the first place. (Think I mentioned somewhere else that I never did receive the package!!)


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Citizen GD000170-2CP
More about this "glitch"

I was lucky enough to catch Chris a few nights ago, and, since this doesn't belong in the Bishop category, I figured I'd put it up here (since it's where it belongs).

Quote:
me: Hey, Chris, is it possible to "fix a glitch" on the system?
Chris: depends on the glitch Smile
me: haha
Well, this ID number that was scanned in a few days ago.
It was Father Beck's.
Supposedly, it's a glitch. Any way to fix it?
Chris: Oh .. not in the interface but in the city network
That shouldn't be possible
he's dead
but I guess that's what you're talking about isn't it
me: Exactly
Unless you guys have zombies?
Or clones?
Chris: no zombies
either he's still alive
or someone managed to reactivate his chip
me: Is that possible?
to reactivate a chip?
Chris: not sure ... but its a better explaination than zombies Wink
and Beck I'm certain is quite dead
as for finding out if its possible
Senator Mercer would know the answer to that
me: or his wife?
Chris: possibly
I know that agents have been in contact with her
its certainly a good place to start
me: Cool
So there's no way to fix this glitch then?
Chris: I don't think its a glitch
I think the system is working correctly
me: I thought the same thing.
Lex, the yellow handler, said otherwise.
So the "official" explanation was "glitch."
Chris: well .. he's a part of the system Smile
of course he's going to say that


There was a bit of other stuff we went into, but this is sorta on topic. We were talking about Beck's death and this is the convo from then on:

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Chris: if it wasn't an accident then it sounds like the work of you know who
me: Might just be the 2007 rumor mill then.
You-Know-Who?
Chris: The God Killer
and his chip was missing
when he was found
but I doubt Lex did that
me: So do I.
Do you have to know about the chips to take them out?
Chris: yes
me: Or can you just... cut?
Chris: just cutting would cause them to deactivate
and raise the alarm
it happens from time to time
me: So it's plausible that this person knows about the chips enough to take them out without raising the alarm.
Chris: people dig their own chip out
me: without alarms being raised?
Chris: well if the God Killer is real (and I believe he is) .. he knows something about them
well the alarms are raised when someone digs their chip out
me: magnets crash our computers... does it do that to technology with you too?
Chris: but if they throw it in the river
they find the chip and that's the end of it
the person disappears
the chips are heavily shielded
so one would have to have an extremely powerful magnet or remove the shielding
me: Any idea what the shielding is?
Chris: but for someone wanting to reuse the chips magnetic shielding is pretty simple. I believe it uses a basic faraday cage
anyway, as I was saying. A magnet wouldn't be a good idea for someone wanting to reuse a chip. I doubt they'd want to destroy it
me: So without raising the alarm, they get these out.
... You think the God Killer is part of the government?
Chris: who .. people digging out their chip? Or are you talking about the GK?
I don't know .. it wouldn't make sense for him to be a part of it
I think he's against the government
and I think he believes what he's doing is right
me: But the people he's killing... are they innocent?
Who are they? We don't even know all their names, anything about them..
Chris: I don't know honestly ... I don't think its important. What's important is whether or not he believes they're innocent


Sorry it's so long! But if it's not a "glitch" then someone out there knows how to reactivate chips. I've sent a note to Tara, but so far, no response.

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