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[PUZZLE] Pedigree Puzzle
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ForeverMourn
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**Big Edit: Moving Post Around Entirely**

Welcome, DerKork.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought the Hippie pictures were making fun of Mary.

Ok, So I decided to look through the images.
DerKork wrote:
So he decided on that subject intentionally? Why?
Does the original video contain everything we need to solve his riddle?
And why did he use the pictures he decided to use?
  • a girl in a bed with five fairies flying around
  • a love bug
  • a bunch of hippies looking like being straight out of "Hair"
  • a sample of batik printing/flowers made from paper
  • a drumming workshop in the woods
  • Marijuhana leaf in canadian flag
  • Nude bathing in a river
  • Aged couple of hippies, she's giving the victory sign
  • Extatic hippies (at Woodstock?)

The girl in the bed - is this a reference to a child's book? It looks like some kind of book illustration.


Image One
A Girl In Bed, Several Tooth Fairies flying around her room.
If this was from a childs book or fairytale, it would have to be the Tooth Fairy. You can see the tooth under the pillow. I thought this picture was depicting Mary as "Childish".

Image Two
A Picture Of A "Flower Power Hippie Van"
I wouldn't call this so much a "Love Bug" but more a "Hippie Van". Googling "Hippie Van" on Google Images shows several similar vans.

Image Three
Image of "Dancing Hippies"
I'm not sure what the "Hair" reference was but again, Google Images has several similar images. These Hippies look like some from the 60's Era.

Image Four
a sample of batik printing/flowers made from paper (Wow, good catch, Der!)
Mesmerizing Imagery of Flowers

Image Five
a drumming workshop in the woods
A Large Drum Circle

Image Six
Marijuhana leaf in canadian flag
Why oh Why use a Pot Leaf In A Canadian Flag? I've said it once, I'll say it again, People who use Marijuana ARE NOT BAD. OR HIPPIES. Ugh.

Image Seven
Nude bathing in a river
Nudists, Free and Inhibited. LoL.

Image Eight
Aged couple of hippies, she's giving the victory sign
Or The Peace Sign. "Peace & Love, Man."

Image Nine
Extatic hippies (at Woodstock?)
I found this same picture on Google when I googled, "Dancing Hippies"(PREVIOUSLY) It was the third picture. The pic was labeled, "Dancing Hippes" A few pages over, the same picture labeled, "smoking pot and dancing around"

Now I did find this funny, When I googled, "Hippie" look who Mary Resembles. Hair to side, Blue Tank Top. Hahahaha.


Other than that, I think it was shameless shots at Marypoo. But if someone sees a connection please let me know.

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ForeverMourn
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Hey Guys, meinthemirror posted his theories on the FET forum.

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The drawing looks like three sets of parents, each with a son and a daughter? And then a single individual (the far right square). If the squares are men and the circles are women, then the arrow from the bottom left square to the middle question mark could mean an affair (or rape?) with the bottom question mark being someone of uncertain parentage. I'd think one of them is probably Eric, and one is probably the Codemaster.

Only thing I can think of that the slashes would mean is that the person's dead. And the far-right square doesn't seem to be connected to any of the others at all.

Also, hi


I sent him a PM directing him our way, as well.

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El Neil
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ive just had a thought...

could the point of the pedigree chart be for us to place the lone square (on the far right) onto one of the three question marks? in other words, one of the q marks is a boy and the other two are girls.

i reckon by finding out which one of the question marks is a boy, this will somehow reveal something to us.

perhaps the CM is the lone square, or maybe eric, and this will reveal a key element of the plot.

but then again im probably wrong.

neil

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ForeverMourn
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Oh Neil! Good Idea!

Hmm. The only problem is, how the HELL are we supposed to place ANYTHING on this?!

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I realize this isn't really helpful, but what if the pedigree isn't meant to be filled in as an actual pedigree chart? The text translates to "solve the puzzle," right? Not something like "name the people." How do we know we aren't meant to be changing this into some sort of text or number? I'd have no idea how to do such a thing but putting names to the relationships seems to have everyone stuck. Just brainstorming.

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meinthemirror
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ForeverMourn wrote:
I sent him a PM directing him our way, as well.

I'm here Smile Felt kind of silly when I realized I'd basically just said the same things you guys have been saying for eight pages, though.

chuckles666 wrote:
one thing that may put an interesting perspective on the King of Diamonds image is not necessarily it's connection to the french deck but to the tarot. The KD translates to the King of Cups.

Actually... the suit of diamonds translates to the tarot pentacles. Hearts is cups. The King of Pentacles represents financial achievement. The "thirteend" could be referring to the card, with the king having the value of 13, and D standing for diamonds. Also, the king of diamonds is commonly associated with Caesar, so it could mean Tom Cesear, maybe?

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El Neil
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Hmm. The only problem is, how the HELL are we supposed to place ANYTHING on this?!


well, out of the three, it cant be the top left q mark, cos that person gave birth. so that means the boy is either a brother of matey on the right or child of top left q mark.

i know this all sounds obvious, but i think we might have been given everything we need. maybe the chart is of julius caesars family?

neil

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halftruth wrote:
I realize this isn't really helpful, but what if the pedigree isn't meant to be filled in as an actual pedigree chart? The text translates to "solve the puzzle," right? Not something like "name the people." How do we know we aren't meant to be changing this into some sort of text or number? I'd have no idea how to do such a thing but putting names to the relationships seems to have everyone stuck. Just brainstorming.

The same thought crossed my mind today. I thought: "If I were setting up these puzzles, I'd go and add a detail to misdirect everyone, especially because they're pretty fast solving my riddles."

I came up with the following idea:
What if the pedigree isn't intended to show a family but to show a way to solve the riddle?
Let's assume this idea is right (which is as good as every other guess), how do we fill in the blanks?
If a square is substituted by "1", a circle by "0" and striking them reverses the values, we end up with the image I attached.

What about these numbers in place of the question marks? Are these "people" affected by a strike?

The only person I'm not completely certain with is the single, final "1" (as I substituted the images with numbers) because that's the only descendant who could be affected by the stroked central elements - but they ended up in a side-arm of the "family", so that could be a clue...

And I doubt that this tree does resolve to the family of caesar - the ones I'd be thinking of are all dead for over 2000 years.

(oh, and the "hippie van" is a Volkswagen Type 2 - just for the record.)
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youporkchop
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Hi

DerKork wrote:
halftruth wrote:
I realize this isn't really helpful, but what if the pedigree isn't meant to be filled in as an actual pedigree chart? The text translates to "solve the puzzle," right? Not something like "name the people." How do we know we aren't meant to be changing this into some sort of text or number? I'd have no idea how to do such a thing but putting names to the relationships seems to have everyone stuck. Just brainstorming.

The same thought crossed my mind today. I thought: "If I were setting up these puzzles, I'd go and add a detail to misdirect everyone, especially because they're pretty fast solving my riddles."

I came up with the following idea:
What if the pedigree isn't intended to show a family but to show a way to solve the riddle?
Let's assume this idea is right (which is as good as every other guess), how do we fill in the blanks?
If a square is substituted by "1", a circle by "0" and striking them reverses the values, we end up with the image I attached.

What about these numbers in place of the question marks? Are these "people" affected by a strike?

The only person I'm not completely certain with is the single, final "1" (as I substituted the images with numbers) because that's the only descendant who could be affected by the stroked central elements - but they ended up in a side-arm of the "family", so that could be a clue...

And I doubt that this tree does resolve to the family of caesar - the ones I'd be thinking of are all dead for over 2000 years.

(oh, and the "hippie van" is a Volkswagen Type 2 - just for the record.)


Yeah I'm new! I've been lurking since Sunday. I've read all the posts and I have to say that you guys are damn good! Any how...this is an intresting p.o.v. on the family chart. You definetly have a good point. You guys have been deciphering everything the CM throws in your direction and he did make it clear that this is a waiting game. I don't think this puzzle is meant to be solved until he gives us the next one. He knows that as soon as we get the slightest clue that it will be solved within days. So...hi, again! I'll stop gawking at you guys and speak up. Lol.
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Hey,

It's been a while since I've been involved in an ARG (Think ILB) and I may be a bit rusty - but while reading over this thread I noticed something that just clicked in my head.

Look at these two images in succession:
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?mode=attach&id=7958
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/127/400056252_799fe1edb0.jpg?v=0

This got me thinking - does the 13 have anything to do with the pedigree chart? Does it point to Eric's sin - the reason the CM is doing this?

~Sooper Dooper Pooper Scooper Sooperb Snooper~

EDIT: Also, are we misinterpreting the arrowed line between Eric and number 11 - I googled pedigree charts and looked through all and I couldn't find one site (within the first few pages) that explained what an arrowed line could mean. Once again it could be pointing out the reason.

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Snooper_1989 wrote:
EDIT: Also, are we misinterpreting the arrowed line between Eric and number 11 - I googled pedigree charts and looked through all and I couldn't find one site (within the first few pages) that explained what an arrowed line could mean. Once again it could be pointing out the reason.


i think the arrowed line is used here to demonstrate a non-marital romantic relationship

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Also, it's kind of weird that he used a pedigree chart to draw this up, usually they're used for just animals... ... ...

-stares at the chart more and more-

[EDIT: This little part after here is for my own wellbeing - so I don't go insane, though it may help others.]

[Group One]
1-M: Michael & 2-F: Linda
|
|_ 9-F: Mary
|_ 10-M: Eric

[Subgroup One]
10-M: Eric ---> 11-?: Unknown [Sue Hart?]
.....................................|
.....................................|_ 15-?: Unknown

[Group Two]
3-M-Dec: Unknown & 4-F: Unknown
|
|_ 11-?: Unknown [Sue Hart?]
|_ 7-M-Dec: Unknown

[Subgroup Two]
7-M-Dec: Unknown & 8-F: Unknown[/b]

[Group Three]
5-M-Dec: Unknown & 6-F-Dec: Unknown
|
|_ 12-M: Unknown
|_ 13-?:

[Group Four]
14-M: El Séniór Codé Mastér

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Snooper_1989 wrote:
This got me thinking - does the 13 have anything to do with the pedigree chart? Does it point to Eric's sin - the reason the CM is doing this?


An extremely novel idea, Snooper, I just have one bone to pick with it. That would be.. the 13 is from the video Ghosts, right? I think so. Anyway, what I'm trying to point out it that the 13 came before the chart. And on the chart the CM gave us didn't have the numbers on it, I believe we put them on there ourselves just for quick reference. So am I ruling out your idea completely? No, not necessarily. I just don't really think the connection was intentional.

And everyone, sorry for disappearing. I've been checking in, but with the lack of updates, lately I've found that I really have nothing useful to say. But I'll be around. Smile

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NovaChild wrote:
Snooper_1989 wrote:
This got me thinking - does the 13 have anything to do with the pedigree chart? Does it point to Eric's sin - the reason the CM is doing this?


An extremely novel idea, Snooper, I just have one bone to pick with it. That would be.. the 13 is from the video Ghosts, right? I think so. Anyway, what I'm trying to point out it that the 13 came before the chart. And on the chart the CM gave us didn't have the numbers on it, I believe we put them on there ourselves just for quick reference. So am I ruling out your idea completely? No, not necessarily. I just don't really think the connection was intentional.

And everyone, sorry for disappearing. I've been checking in, but with the lack of updates, lately I've found that I really have nothing useful to say. But I'll be around. Smile


Yeah, I realised that - doesn't entirely rule it out, I just though it would either be that or the 'victim' number? -brain asplode-

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Could be victim number, or not. The number thirteen, not too surprisingly, has mixed meanings, both lucky and unlucky. According to Gematria, the Hebrew word for "one" to describe the monotheistic God has a value of 13, and is therefore lucky.

The most common reason given for 13's unluckiness comes from the Last Supper, where Judas is ascribed the thirteenth position at the table. Perhaps Eric's sin is betrayal? What could he have done to earn a position in the 9th Circle of Hell?

As an aside, my favorite instance of the number 13 comes in the St. Matthew's Passion by Johann Sebastian Bach. You'll have to forgive my memory, but this was a freshman year music theory class. In one of the parts, the bass section repeats twelve times, playing the same notes. The thirteenth time is the end of the song, and this thirteenth repetition is different, alluding to Christ's presence.

Well, I thought it was cool. ;D

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