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[S7] New site, but possibly fake
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Nola
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 		[S7] New site, but possibly fake
Found by thelost1 over at SSS

www.vector-sigma.org

password MEGAMAN

I think its fake, but let's get some more opinions.

http://www.buzznet.com/groups/stopsectorseven/forum/topics/12031/

HOWEVER... there's a PDF document in there that has a UK country code phone number... and elsewhere we know that S7 got scared when someone mentioned their "UK counterpart"

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 6:50 am
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thebruce
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 		hmm... so har dto tell. it's very well done, and has lots of stuff, but there's a blatant F* bomb in an email, some of the typical UI functionality has changed for no reason (like single clicking an icon to open, rather than double), and one email refers as an address command@vector-seven.org which doesn't exist, because it should be vector-sigma.org - an easy mistake to be caught (and should have, and would have, IMO)

quite suspicious...

edit: IMO, gamejack
Whois info:
Quote:
Domain ID:D143789487-LROR
Domain Name:VECTOR-SIGMA.ORG
Created On:17-Apr-2007 10:24:42 UTC
Expiration Date:17-Apr-2009 10:24:42 UTC
Sponsoring Registrar:Melbourne IT, Ltd. dba Internet Names Worldwide (R52-LROR)
Status:TRANSFER PROHIBITED
Registrant ID:C117680476246573
Registrant Name:Paul Ledbury
Registrant Organization:Paul Ledbury
Registrant Street1:45 Woodbourne Avenue
Registrant City:Streatham
Registrant State/Province:London
Registrant Postal Code:SW16 1UX
Registrant Country:GB
Registrant Phone:+44.448451304503
Admin ID:C117680476246570
Admin Name:123 connect
Admin Organization:123connect
Admin Street1:101 stansfield road
Admin City:benfleet
Admin State/Province:essex
Admin Postal Code:SS7 4NA
Admin Country:GB
Admin Phone:+44.08451304503
Tech ID:C117680476246572
Tech Name:123 connect
Tech Organization:123connect Ltd
Tech Street1:101 Stansfield Road
Tech City:Benfleet
Tech State/Province:essex
Tech Postal Code:SS7 4NA
Tech Country:GB
Tech Phone:+44.8451304503
Name Server:NS3.LIGHTNING1.NET
Name Server:NS4.LIGHTNING1.NET

public registration, not related to s7 at all, out of london... I believe, nicely done copy and edit
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:35 am
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Nola
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 		It is the subtle difference that make me think it is fake... here's a quick list:


-Log-in screen is arranged differently.
-There is no denied login functionality... only the correct password will do anything.
-Logos on the bottom of the screen are not identical.
-The videoclip has an IGN waterseal
-Cannot select text from the e-mails
-There is no really new content

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:44 am
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Nola
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 		I'll catalogue as fake in my book until something proves to me that it is not. Probably someone got creative with the N44E, UK Counterpart reference in an informant e-mail.

Probably the very informant (sandcastlebuilder) was already working on this knockoff when S7 humored his post but adding a remark to his e-mail.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 7:47 am
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thelost1
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 		it seemed alittle odd on the movie forums (where the url came from) the member that posted about the VS site and password, was a new member only posting that one time. but i didnt wanna discount it right off the bat...

masterfwiffo has been a movie forum member sence july 2005 with almost 2400 posts and part of his name was a password for s7
so not sure figured time would tell...

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:14 am
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Summerspop
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 		No way that is legit.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:00 am
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Nola
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thelost1 wrote:
the member that posted about the VS site and password, was a new member only posting that one time


Do you have a link to this member/post? How did you find the password?

[EDIT] Never mind... Vecor Sigma is a fan site:

http://www.buzznet.com/groups/stopsectorseven/forum/topics/12031/?p=1

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risingdragon11: 04/27/2007 8:10 AM
Vector Sigma was started by a group of X's followers from the Don Murphy boards. It was supposed to be something like what we have here, but ended up being a mock-S7 interface. While whoever designed it did a good job imitating the Sector Seven site, it does not provide any useful information. What is contained in the Vector Sigma site and more can be found on the Sector Seven sites.
Still, props to whoever created Vector Sigma, they did a nice job. If they added more to it, it'd be more useful.


That's the second disappointment today!

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:24 am
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Methusalen
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 		Here is the link to the board where the Vector-Sigma site was mentioned... http://boards.transformersmovie.com/showthread.php?t=9705

In the same thread Masterfwiffo says:

Quote:
Quoted from Masterfwiffo
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Originally Posted by Hound84 View Post
Someone on the buzznet site is using your "name" to promote the movie in a very gimmicky way (It is still kind of interesting though). I just want to know if you have anything to do with this site and if you have any insights you can share with the rest of the fandom..

Here is the link posted in the thread regarding the security cameras on NBE01. The posts below the feeds are roleplaying as hackers who have access to information regarding the upcoming "invasion" from our beloved Transformers.

http://www.buzznet.com/groups/stopse...m/topics/10554 is

Yes that's me yo. EVERYBODY there (with the possible exception of Sciencehottiewhatshername and maybe another guy or two) is a bunch of fans having way too much fun with that whole Sector 7 thing. Don't look too far into it.


Err, I mean...

ALERT! WE'VE BEEN FOUND! Agents 76 and XBV move in and ELIMINATE!


and-
Quote:
Quoted from Masterfwiffo
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Originally Posted by Pre98 View Post
It never occurs to some people that users here can actually be members of the cast and crew of the production itself and not tell anyone.

And it also doesn't occur to many that there are actual TF fans who like this stuff.


When someone posts the Vector-Sigma link...

Quote:
Quoted by Tuffcub
Fwiffo : More than meets the eye

http:www.vector-sigma.org > MEGAMAN


All Masterfwiffo has to say is:

Quote:
Damn you Tuff-Club, you blew my cover. Mad





Wink


And one more quote for the heck of it:

Quote:
Quoted from Masterfwiffo:
The extent of info I have is what is made available elsewhere on the internet. I don't know anything that everybody else doesn't know (though I know plenty that some choose to ignore). I'm just another fan, yo.


And, over in the SSS Boards on Buzznet, RisingDragon11 posted some info regarding the Vector-Sigma site...
Quote:
Vector Sigma was started by a group of X's followers from the Don Murphy boards. It was supposed to be something like what we have here, but ended up being a mock-S7 interface. While whoever designed it did a good job imitating the Sector Seven site, it does not provide any useful information. What is contained in the Vector Sigma site and more can be found on the Sector Seven sites.
Still, props to whoever created Vector Sigma, they did a nice job. If they added more to it, it'd be more useful.


Now, that alone is enough info for me to discredit the site, and this, along with the InverseApprentice situation... I'm seriously thinking Masterfwiffo is not trustworthy as well... Here's my argument regarding the IA mess...
During the InverseApprentice situation, I was pointed out to Master's signature over at the Allspark Forums http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.php?s=fb3ea50048307f0a459fd199c305ec9c&showuser=4279 , and he was using the signature posted below.


Now, InverseApprentice supposedly lived in San Francisco,Ca while Masterfwiffo lives in Livermore,Ca... 50 miles away. As such, when IA had put up his posts about being followed by Barricade & Frenzy, Masterfwiffo told him to contact him- as he might be able to help him... As far as I know, Masterfwiffo is the only person to actually contact him outside of the Buzznet boards... even saying that he'd gone as far as to have DRIVEN to his house after their IM conversation made a turn for the worst...

I don't know... I'm thinking Masterfwiffo created the InverseApprentice user to play with us... or teamed up with someone else to come up with the 'story' about Inverse... but that's just my suspicion, and I wanted to see what others thought about it...


OH, one last thing... Could we keep OOG discussion OFF of the Buzznet site? I think it's hard enough keeping everything straight, and I don't know how others feel about it, but think things should be kept seperate between the two...

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Nola
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Methusalen wrote:
OH, one last thing... Could we keep OOG discussion OFF of the Buzznet site? I think it's hard enough keeping everything straight, and I don't know how others feel about it, but think things should be kept seperate between the two...


No problem... I guess buzznet is our "role playing ARG" then.

PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 1:31 pm
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Methusalen
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 		Well, I'm still pretty new to ARG's in general, and being made an Admin over at the SSS site is making it all a bit more confusing for me... The "Out of Game" references over there don't seem to work very well, as it appears that most of us there are Role-Playing... ("I didn't know we were playing a game." is still my favorite quote from someone posting a OOG reference!)

But, you've been around the ARG block more than I have, so your opinion would be helpful for this rookie...

Thanks again,
Methusalen

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Nola
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 		Well, the IG/OOG boundary is an important one because it enhances the experience. For instance, in I Love Bees, answering a phone call was always in game... if anyone failed to play the part then it would have gone downhill fast.

With this ARG, Unforums is clearly OOG and our place to speculate what the truth is, but it looks like SSS is a place where suspension of disbelief needs to kick in full gear and we should all play our roles... however, not all members seem to be aware of that. We might just have to let it be.

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Dashael
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 		Vector Sigma is definitely OOG, it was cooked up by a bunch of fans over on Don Murphy's forums.

They plotted it in this thread: http://www.donmurphy.net/board/archive/index.php?t-17699.html

Well done, and well intentioned, but don't look to it for first hand data

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