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Abilor
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 		What happens now?
I'm getting schizophrenic in terms of my gameplay. The professional part of me signed on because this is a virtuous project, and I sincerely believe that US energy policy is FUBAR. So I am participating in the project in that worthy sense, the political/blog/wiki sense, and recommending it to other faculty and students I am in touch with.

The part of me that will forever be a 15 year old playing dungeons and dragons in a basement full of swords, crystals, and R.A. Salvatore and David Eddings novels wonders, however, what happens here on out in terms of puzzle gameplay? Is there a "plot" we're going to be uncovering, problems to solve, codes to break, clandestine web sites, etc.? The reason I ask is that I'm having a great time playing sectorseven as well, and I'm wondering... Well, I'm just wondering. What do the rest of you think?

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wwoentropy
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 		Re: What happens now?
I kinda wonder the same.
I mean, playacting and having this type of discussion is neat, but I'm not sure where the game is going.

If there is some kind of breadcrumb that we are supposed to start following, it has totally flown under my radar.



Abilor wrote:
I'm getting schizophrenic in terms of my gameplay. The professional part of me signed on because this is a virtuous project, and I sincerely believe that US energy policy is FUBAR. So I am participating in the project in that worthy sense, the political/blog/wiki sense, and recommending it to other faculty and students I am in touch with.

The part of me that will forever be a 15 year old playing dungeons and dragons in a basement full of swords, crystals, and R.A. Salvatore and David Eddings novels wonders, however, what happens here on out in terms of puzzle gameplay? Is there a "plot" we're going to be uncovering, problems to solve, codes to break, clandestine web sites, etc.? The reason I ask is that I'm having a great time playing sectorseven as well, and I'm wondering... Well, I'm just wondering. What do the rest of you think?


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cissmiace
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 		Re: What happens now?
Abilor wrote:
I'm getting schizophrenic in terms of my gameplay. The professional part of me signed on because this is a virtuous project, and I sincerely believe that US energy policy is FUBAR. So I am participating in the project in that worthy sense, the political/blog/wiki sense, and recommending it to other faculty and students I am in touch with.

The part of me that will forever be a 15 year old playing dungeons and dragons in a basement full of swords, crystals, and R.A. Salvatore and David Eddings novels wonders, however, what happens here on out in terms of puzzle gameplay? Is there a "plot" we're going to be uncovering, problems to solve, codes to break, clandestine web sites, etc.? The reason I ask is that I'm having a great time playing sectorseven as well, and I'm wondering... Well, I'm just wondering. What do the rest of you think?


I was thinking the exact same thing. At the moment (especially since the site went live) I cant see how codes and puzzles will play into it, and if im 100% honest...I kinda felt a little dissapointed =\ and Im really not sure I can keep digging up useful information about oil so I can post it every day. Theres just no that info like that in the UK Sad
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poeticexplosion
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 		I think the game element might come in with Nico's story. After all, they surely won't just drop that, will they?
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skywing
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 		schizophrenia
If you are feeling schizophrenic, it's because this game seems split. I figure you have this whole fantasy-world-blogging thing going on, thats the big thing. And then you have the whole nico issue which is sounding more and more like an arg - I figure that you don't have to blog in the fantasy world to follow nico's story, and most people writing don't care about nico's story.

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nitefoll
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 		OOG alert
OOG: Didn't someone post an article (Gametech maybe?!) stating that this game was run by Jane McGonigal and the article describes how she believes that the collective "ARG" mind could be directed towards solving real world issues (i.e oil crisis, over population etc)

Isn't WWO a working example of her theories?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm sure I read that somewhere. Confused

EDIT: Found the article, it was in SFWeekly
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konamouse
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 		If I recall from discussions around ARGFest, this is more of an exercise in the collective intelligence rather than an ARG in the ARG-sense (if you take the analogy by Brian from GMD and Susan from 42: an ARG is a story that has been broken into a bunch of little pieces and the players have to solve the puzzle(s) in order to story pieces and put them back together).

In a way, for WWO, I think the players are going to write the story themselves.
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poeticexplosion
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 		Re: OOG alert
nitefoll wrote:
OOG: Didn't someone post an article (Gametech maybe?!) stating that this game was run by Jane McGonigal and the article describes how she believes that the collective "ARG" mind could be directed towards solving real world issues (i.e oil crisis, over population etc)

Isn't WWO a working example of her theories?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm sure I read that somewhere. Confused

EDIT: Found the article, it was in SFWeekly


Actually, that's the point of WWO. She's stated that WWO is her first attempt at a world-changing game. We're supposed to be coming up with ideas now, so that they can implimented if WWO ever happens.
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Dark_Ryder14
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 		Question about posting our stories
Do we have to submitted every entry we make to WWO on our Blogs?

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jegger
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 		Re: Question about posting our stories
Dark_Ryder14 wrote:
Do we have to submitted every entry we make to WWO on our Blogs?


Yep. They can keep better track of the entries that way.
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RedHatty
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 		Wel, let's clarify things a little, if you write a blog about Jennifer Aniston's new movie, you don't have to submit it. If you wrote a blog that is game material, then submit it so it can be scored.
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Stax
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 		Re: OOG alert
poeticexplosion wrote:
nitefoll wrote:
OOG: Didn't someone post an article (Gametech maybe?!) stating that this game was run by Jane McGonigal and the article describes how she believes that the collective "ARG" mind could be directed towards solving real world issues (i.e oil crisis, over population etc)

Isn't WWO a working example of her theories?

Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm sure I read that somewhere. Confused

EDIT: Found the article, it was in SFWeekly


Actually, that's the point of WWO. She's stated that WWO is her first attempt at a world-changing game. We're supposed to be coming up with ideas now, so that they can implimented if WWO ever happens.


Yes, I think you are right. I will admit, however, to harboring some of the same "game play" concerns mentioned by Abilor. Then again, I am also intrigued by the broader social, community-building themes of the game (I don't mean to imply Abilor is not intrigued by this aspect of the game also).

I am concerned, however, that the topic chosen to explore these themes may be way too broad for a game that is apparently ending in two months. I am not sure that a meaningful plan or solutions for addressing a global oil crisis can be developed in that timeframe, even on a regional or local level.

I work on community planning projects as part of my job. I recently sat on a panel of stakeholders working together to prepare a habitat conservation plan that covered a single county. That process took nearly a decade.

I do not mean to suggest that the game, as it is, will not be a valuable exercise in exploring ways to harness the internet to solve real world social and political issues. I just wonder if that goal is best served with a game theme that is so broad, multi-faceted and pregnant with huge economic, political, environmental, and social consequences.

Starting a garden and tuning up bikes will not "solve" a global energy crisis.

I don't want to come across as a pessimist. On the other hand, I want to be pragmatic. I am going to be disappointed if I spend a lot of time on game the end result of which is bunch of "solutions" of the "start a carpool," "line dry your clothes," "ride a bike" variety.
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Dark_Ryder14
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 		What I think might happen with this game is it's going to be us writing what we want, but after awhile they might connect an actual story with what we said and we will have to solve puzzles and different things with what we write and how we write it.

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WolfHawk
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 		Well I just wrote a new entry in LJ. I tried to submit it but kept getting a "BadResponse" error. Most of you can read my LJ anyway whether or not it actually makes it to the web site.

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chrisjill86
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Sadness
Not to spoil any fun, but I have to say that I am honestly disappointed as of now, which I know is still very early in the game (considering it just started today). I thought things would really pick up, and nothing really has. Blogs are still just blogs, WHEN they are written, which isn't any more than before. The new website just does not grab me. A few people, along with myself don't really feel that the "ranking" system is all that interesting...nor do I really want to make it to the top.

The characters have been fun to interact with...and I think this "game" serves a very important topic that we are yes indeed dealing with, but as far as game-play goes...not very "fun" for me. Just sort of eh, interesting.

Also, some people that I have spread the word to, that are unaware of all the details and other happenings of the story...are lost on the new site. they just don't "get it" or get the purpose even after I explain it to the best of my ability...which is even weird for me.

Overall, I don't want to be a party pooper. I mean that. I have met a ton of amazing people in the last few weeks. I have been interested in working with all of you on "solving this thing" but I know a lot of us feel like....."um, huh?"

So I will be keeping up for the next few days and hope to see something happen. I agree that writing blogs, making videos, "car-pooling, ride a bike" (staxnet), just does not hit me in the right place....

Simply, I just don't know

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