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[PUZZLE] Undiscovered Dina pages
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ParityBit
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 		[PUZZLE] Undiscovered Dina pages
As the chat and FAQ with the PMs told us there were still puzzles to be solved and pages to be found, I thought we should have a new thread to look for the missing Dina pages. He is a quote from Medemia from the [META] Loose ends... thread to start us off:

Medemia wrote:
Ok, places where they may be:

*"Thick" as pea soup (as stated above)
*Bisy
*The music on the Jesse Sketch. That was never really delved into
*The butterfly on 11/15

*This quote from 10/30

Quote:
I had the strangest thing happen to me this morning. I woke up after a soothing nap, and decided that I was going to open up that can of split pea soup and have it with some rye toast heels still left over from the other night.


*When taken with the "...as pea soup" post, are they interconnected somehow?

*Quote from 10/24
Quote:
Since then, it's been easier doing free verse, or internal rhyme, and not sticking to formulaic orange/door hinge type stuff.


A quick list. Just looking for ideas.


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Quote:

I had the strangest thing happen to me this morning. I woke up after a soothing nap, and decided that I was going to open up that can of split pea soup and have it with some rye toast heels still left over from the other night



Is the term rye toast heels commonly used...? Did not give me much with Google.

Split Pea, Split P

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 		Doesn't seem to have been mentioned on the forums, but spelling 'busy' as 'bisy' is taken from Winnie the Pooh (or the House at Pooh Corner), when Christopher Robin leaves a note on his door saying 'GON OUT, BACKSON, BISY, BACKSON'. He has gone to be educated.

Couldn't get any pages with 'backson' though... Sad

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 		I've tried (all with .html extension):

bear
pooh
gonout
backsoon
backson
cristopherrobin
robin
christopher

and, in desperation Confused , tigger.

Needless to say, no joy...

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Flynn wrote:
I've tried (all with .html extension):

bear
pooh
gonout
backsoon
backson
cristopherrobin
robin
christopher

and, in desperation Confused , tigger.

Needless to say, no joy...


Additionally, no:
Winnie
AAMilne
Milne
honey
bees
littleblackraincloud Question

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 		hunny doesn't work either....

grrr

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 		I'm not convinced that "bisy" is a puzzle, it may just be Dina being "cute".

I am convinced that the Jesse Sketch and the Butterfly Door are both puzzles. Then again, I was convinced about STOL, too.

Let's get crackin'! (meaning, I have nothing to contribute at this time Smile )

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 		Just an interesting note:

Bisy is part of the quote "Gon out backson, bisy backson." She is to the point of packing to go see if she can go get her son back.

Question, in the book of Winnie the Pooh, was there anything about a first step?

From the Tao of Pooh:
Quote:

Ch 6 : Bisy Backson
+++Pounded in from the outside vs built up from the inside. Confuse exercise w/ work.

+++Bisy Backson always going somewhere , somewhere he hasn't been. Anywhere but where he is. A mysterious reward? spend our lives working like lunatics to catch up w/ it.

+++Pooh "I'm enjoying the day. Listening. They say it's a beautiful day."

+++Feel @ home @ peace w/ land. Too hard on self, too hard on others, too hard on nature/world.

--------------

Ch 8 : Nowhere and Nothing
+++What do you like to do best? Nothing.
Where are you going? Nowhere
+What are you going to do? Oh nothing an you go and do it. Just going along, listening to all the things you can't hear and not bothering.

+++The Great Secret - The key to unlock wisdom,happy,truth. = Nothing. To Taoist Nothing is something. & Something the thing that many consider important is really nothing.

++T'ai Hsu "Great Nothing"
+++C-t : To have no thought (MT mind) & put forth no effort is the first step to understanding Tao. To go nowhere and do nothing is the first step to find peace in Tao. To start from no point and follow no road is the first step to reaching Tao.



Now I'm stretching, I know.

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 		text
http://winnie-the-pooh.ru/stories/english/busybackson/

Here is the text.

Medemia wrote:
Just an interesting note:

Bisy is part of the quote "Gon out backson, bisy backson." She is to the point of packing to go see if she can go get her son back.

Question, in the book of Winnie the Pooh, was there anything about a first step?

From the Tao of Pooh:
Quote:

Ch 6 : Bisy Backson
+++Pounded in from the outside vs built up from the inside. Confuse exercise w/ work.

+++Bisy Backson always going somewhere , somewhere he hasn't been. Anywhere but where he is. A mysterious reward? spend our lives working like lunatics to catch up w/ it.

+++Pooh "I'm enjoying the day. Listening. They say it's a beautiful day."

+++Feel @ home @ peace w/ land. Too hard on self, too hard on others, too hard on nature/world.

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Ch 8 : Nowhere and Nothing
+++What do you like to do best? Nothing.
Where are you going? Nowhere
+What are you going to do? Oh nothing an you go and do it. Just going along, listening to all the things you can't hear and not bothering.

+++The Great Secret - The key to unlock wisdom,happy,truth. = Nothing. To Taoist Nothing is something. & Something the thing that many consider important is really nothing.

++T'ai Hsu "Great Nothing"
+++C-t : To have no thought (MT mind) & put forth no effort is the first step to understanding Tao. To go nowhere and do nothing is the first step to find peace in Tao. To start from no point and follow no road is the first step to reaching Tao.



Now I'm stretching, I know.

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 		Bisy is in one other literary text....

Quote:

So greet a purchasour was nowher noon:
Al was fee symple to hym in effect;
His purchasyng myghte nat been infect.
Nowher so bisy a man as he ther nas,
And yet he semed bisier than he was.


Geoffery Chaucer, General Prologue 1, Canterbury Tales

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 		I'm at a loss, seriously. I've scoured a bunch of Dina's stuff, and I can pick out quite a few locations that obviously point to something, but I just can't figure out what it is.

Gotta be something to the bisy one (Nov 10th)...

Quote:

bisy

I have been a flurry of activity.

The journey is in front of me.


What is the first step?


Why the extra line break between the last two sentenses? And why a "flurry" of activity?

Earlier there was this post (Nov 2nd):

Quote:

snow globe

The world seems very different now than it did, oh, maybe an hour ago.


There are also referenced to a "chill" settling in over Chicago, and another entry is titled "eye o' storm"

Flurry, chill, snow globe, storm... There's definitely a theme there, I just don't know if it means anything Razz

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 		Here's the sheet music from the jesse sketch, blown up a little. The music has to be there for a reason...
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 		Jesse Sketch
Thoughts on the Jesse sketch:

The music:
- the key is A flat
- time sig is 3/8
- Some people have spec'd that some of the notes are bolded, the notes are:
C(A/E)CAEF - the (A/E) is a pair of notes together, 'A' being the lower one

or

C(Ab/Eb)CAbEbF - with the flat notation 'b'
- I'm not so sure about the bolding, since some (the Ab/Eb pair in particular) are not 'as bold', and there are a couple of darker spots where there are no notes. Also we found deadcafe from the notes, I'm not sure we would have another puzzle solved by the same method...although you never know, hehe
- The tune itself is unremarkable (someone on this forum made a MIDI of it but I can't find it), and may or may not be original. I couldn't find it using various melody searching tools.

The Sketch:
- Looks more like a Photoshop effect than a sketch
- I've seen this photo of Jesse somewhere that escapes me at the moment

Text:
Dina wrote:

Dearest Ethan,

I thought you might like this attempt at a sketch.
I also got to play with transferring with water and other solubles. The effect is kinda neat.

Love,

Dina

- What are "other solubles"?
- What is she transferring?
- Is this the only place she starts with "Dearest Ethan"? This seems more like a letter than a post on a blog

OK, seriously I need sleep.

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 		First of all, that's the same music that was on the background of a few of the dina.nekodas pages. Second, something must have been changed, because the last note in the left hand of the 3rd bar is impossible to play, unless you are Shaquille O'Neal. Third, I think this is by Chopin - it certainly sounds Chopiny - but I looked through my Chopin books and couldn't find it. Doesn't mean it's not him, though, those things are hardly comprehensive. I have attached a MIDI file of the music, looped 6 times so you can hear it.
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 		i think we should review Dina's patterns and see if there is something there to extrapolate her method of hiding these things. The paintover pics always had the same method, so maybe Dina has a predictable method as well...

these aren't in order...

blueline.html - came from extrpolation of the night.html source (clues in comments)

beethoven.html - name extrapolated from the names of the two pics in the blog

triad.html - came from the three frequencies that she posted (this seemed to be a more blatant clue)

deadcafe.html - deadcafe was spelled out by the notes in a riff

balladsoffrogs.html - found from the 11 mp3s (again, this was a blatant clue, not subtle at all)

i know there are others such as (night, tortoise, etc) but i can't remember how they were solved.

Dina's clues don't seem to be all to deep. It doesn't look as though you have to go off and do to much research into anything - just find the clue and start playing around with it. I guess finding the clue is the hard part here though...
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