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[PUZZLE?] Words Circled in Red from Packages
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carmenmiranda
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 		As far as "moving on" and figuring out what we're supposed to be focusing on, I think that the PMs are trying to give us hints here:

http://www.sentryoutpost.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=40&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15

Notice how one of the in-game players says that he's leaving a dream on the recording, to see if she answers back with a Craigslist post. He also hints that she's getting the city right via caller ID.

Which is clever of the PMs to have thought of.

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 		That is what I did the first week. Said my name was konamouse, from Las Vegas, and said that I kept having a dream that left me feeling very uneasy when I woke up, but I couldn't remember what it was. But I was waking up sweating and fearful alot. The eventual CL posting for Las Vegas seemed to point that out alot. Pretty much a no brainer.
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We've even tried to decode it taking the 1st letter on page 5, 2nd letter on page 15, 3rd letter on page 25, etc.
We ignored hyphens and spaces.


I just don't see how this can work when a page has more than one word circled. I am thinking that all of the words circled in red are significant. Maybe the PMs are telling us that this approach isn't correct and we need to focus on the words themselves? Also, we are assuming the letter used, spacing and number of letters based on the pattern of the pages, is this a valid assuption?

Also, I noticed that some of the circles include more than just one word, sometimes other words or parts of other words are included. I can see choosing the main word, but maybe the other parts are important too?
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 		Wild spec while in chat and posting in SO.

Circled word or words play out like crossword puzzle clues.

Discuss.
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enaxor wrote:

Amazon does have a book you can search, but you have to be a registered, active user, in order to search every page.


Yeah that's the one I was using, and yet after X number of pages it boots me [even as a reg'd user].

I was actually thinking a reverse book cipher of sorts, but don't have the book to try it. Use the page, line, word # of the red circles and look up the corresponding page, line word/letter in The Call of Cthulhu?

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I'm not sure why you would discard all the circled words in the other lit? It seems unlikely that they would try to confuse the issue by circling all kinds of words in different lit sources, and then expect that we would know the puzzle actually only lay in the 2 lit sources doesn't it


I was wondering the same thing. The packages have so much material in them I am not sure what - other than the I Ching pages - has been solved.
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Caterpillar wrote:
I was actually thinking a reverse book cipher of sorts, but don't have the book to try it. Use the page, line, word # of the red circles and look up the corresponding page, line word/letter in The Call of Cthulhu?


hmm. well I tried the first 4 pages (6 words) listed for atmom, and came up with (to my best guest, given some words are line-split, and one is circled in the page title)

page/line/word:
5/11/7-warnings
15/16/12-lake
25/14/2-hostile
35/0/5-madness
35/22/9-mystery
35/31/11-vain
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 		overlaying
Ok - did anyone try to overlay the pages that they have? I can't do it. I'm sure that this is the solution though.

As I posted in the Craigslist thread, she is saying that someone told us the solution, but we didn't listen.

In this thread a few people,starting with j5 I think, have suggested that we do this overlapping, but I don't see any posts from anyone who did it. I think this will give us an answer.
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 		Re: overlaying
rose wrote:
Ok - did anyone try to overlay the pages that they have? I can't do it. I'm sure that this is the solution though.

As I posted in the Craigslist thread, she is saying that someone told us the solution, but we didn't listen.

In this thread a few people,starting with j5 I think, have suggested that we do this overlapping, but I don't see any posts from anyone who did it. I think this will give us an answer.


I was thinking of doing a psd or a png with ALL the pages with circled words on, that way people can simply just turn down the opacity and see what lies underneath.
Also, if something irrelevent, you can just hide the layer.
Should I give it a go?
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 		Sorry for the double post, I'm having a really big problem with lining up these pages. Mainly because some people have taken pictures of the pages side on, and from other different angles.
This obviously means that the words wont line up. If I skew the images, I also run the risk of misaligning the words.
Any ideas? =\
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 		well i did some tweaking and came up with the image below... the text lines are 100% lined up, but very very close... checking to see if circles actually hilite words on other pages will take some time, since that does need accuracy... so this image is more to see if there was a pattern in the circles as they're overlaid
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 		Question: how do we know which pages to overlay each other page on?
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 		precisely... there are so many combinations, that there's either an indicator somewhere, a key, or it's not a one to one overlay... or it has something to do with the position of the circled words, or something... plus we've got fronts and backs of pages... remember we've got pages with no circled words on them as well
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rose wrote:
Question: how do we know which pages to overlay each other page on?


I thought that Tieum did the simplest thing, which was to overlay the circled words from p.45 of *one* version of "At the Mountains of Madness" over the p.45 from the *other, noncircled* version of At the Mountains of Madness." We have lots of matching *5/*6 pages from both books..

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 		Is there a way to match up pages with no circled words on them? That seems like the best first step. I was thinking we should use the pages that came together in one package -it might seem silly to send them together, but it still isn't obvious to us that this is the right move.

I dunno, maybe she made the puzzle even more distributed ( meaning that it is already a distributed puzzle by virtue of being broken up and sent to different people) and required the people who got packages to collaborate in order to decode the circled words.
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