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[LETTER] From tCotSA today (3/22/07)
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WolfHawk
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 		Re: My Theory
BrumGuy wrote:
As Promised - below is a copy of the e-mail I sent to Ethan.


Quote:
Ethan,


Adam has advised me to share the findings with:
"the more trusted ones that we can share this info with the better - so long as the enemy doesn't beat us to the punch."
and in a previous message had stated:
"Something does not add up, and I worry that our information is getting into the wrong hands."

I believe that the two additional clues you provided yesterday, held all the additional information we needed to determine the location, that Trusted Hands A secreted the page.
Adam did not confirm or reject my theory, so hope that I have not delayed too long, or caused any delays, which may prove costly.

The following is my conclusion, an extract of the message that I sent to Adam yesterday:
3) I have, over the last couple of days, been communicating with Ethan. I have received a further two clues regarding the search for the page in the midwest, and believe I may have discovered where exactly the folio fragment is hidden. My only problem now, is knowing who to entrust with this information, to ensure that the page does not end up in the wrong hands. I believe that the page is hidden in the Nag Hammadi Library (collection of twelve codices, there are actually thirteen, but "The so-called "Codex XIII" is in fact not a codex, but rather the text of Trimorphic Protennoia, written on "... eight leaves removed from a thirteenth book in late antiquity and tucked inside the front cover of the sixth." ), in the Zimmerman Library, on the student campus of the University of New Mexico. From what I have found out, I believe that what we seek, will be inserted in Codex II (two).
===> I should mention, that these are replicas/facsimilies/translations of the original texts, which are housed in the Coptic Museum in Cairo, Egypt, and are rumoured to have had their origin in the 3rd and 4th centuries.

From my investigations, the above theory fits with all the clues that we have regarding this page. If you wish, I can expand the theory, and reference it to the clues, but haven't in this message in the interest of expedience.

Unfortunately, as you undoubtedly remember from our previous exchanges, I am based in the UK and so personal retrieval is unfortunately out of the question.

I would ask you, if you agree with my findings, and using your knowledge of agents geographical locations, could you recommend a couple of agents whose loyalty is beyond doubt, keeping in mind Adam's warning, to collect this page for us?

Alternatively, do you wish to inform somebody of my findings and instruct them to collect the page instead?

I await your reply,


Brum


For the record, got to this collection of books, solely through trawling the net in respect of the "poisoner angel" (sarcasm intended - only one hit on google!!!) - which I have found and followed the reference to Samael. Back to wikipedia, and the real reading began.

Lots of stuff jumps out at you due to possible ties to DC!! (I'm sure you'll agree this seems to be the expanded version of the second folio page?) - Inevitably, following every link as you read through it for the second time, and that's where I got this collection of books from.


Brum


Percoboist and unimportanthero need to see this as they are in/on their way to the library in New Mexico (which is not the midwest, by the way).

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UnimportantHero
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 		Well swell. I love gnostic scripture. Smile

Right now I am in Texas but I may swing back up to Albequerqe. I actually wound up at the wrong university in New Mexico, but a faculty member told me which campus has the Zimmerman Library. Funny story though. I asked a student where Zimmerman was and this was the exchange:

Me: Do you know where the Zimmerman Library is?
Her: Zimmerman?
Me: Yup.
Her: No. No Zimmerman.
Me: Dammit.
Her: There is only Zul.
Me: .......what?
Her: There is only Zul.
Me: There is only Zul?
Her: Yup. The Zul Library. Its the only one we got here.
Me: ..........
Her: ..........
Me: Awesome.
Her: I know.

Well. Back to the land of non-internets as I try to get my truck repaired!

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JohnnyCon7
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UnimportantHero wrote:

Me: Do you know where the Zimmerman Library is?
Her: Zimmerman?
Me: Yup.
Her: No. No Zimmerman.
Me: Dammit.
Her: There is only Zul.
Me: .......what?
Her: There is only Zul.
Me: There is only Zul?
Her: Yup. The Zul Library. Its the only one we got here.
Me: ..........
Her: ..........
Me: Awesome.
Her: I know.


Haha, that actually made me laugh out loud. Gotta love a good Ghostbusters reference.
"There is no Dana, only Zuul"

PostPosted: Tue May 01, 2007 5:57 pm
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UnimportantHero
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 		So I am actually in the Zimmerman Library right now, but I am having some difficulty with the search. The Nag Hammadi thing is pretty vague as far as checking references go since they have a bunch of different copies and none of them consist of twelve separate volumes, only single books consisting of multiple texts like the Bible does. I leafed through a few of them already and have not found it and - also - one of their copies seems to have been checked out of the library.

This is going to be tough. Ha.

Edited to Add: I just checked every copy of the Nag Hammadi in the library (BT1390 reference number) all except the ONE copy that has been checked out. The books are in fact kept in the northern corner of the west wing on the second floor but no page slipped in any of them. I had high hopes when I saw the book "Fragments of a Forgotten Faith" as well but it was not there either. I am going to go talk with the Reference people about this though and after that do a scan of each floor's northwest corner. Other than that, there is really nothing that I can do here. HOPEFULLY Percoboist has not gotten to it and just not said anything yet. My doggy is getting antsy and wants to be back on the road.

Edited to Add Again: I got nothing. I am giving the books one more sweep and then declaring my search a wash. It will be up to Percoboist then if Percoboist has not already acquired the page.

Edited to Add Yet Again: Well that is it. I give up. Percoboist, it is all yours. It is probably for the best anyway since I had my own plans for that particular folio page. I feel pretty defeated but the search only took me four hours off my course so it is not really that big of a deal. In any case it is time for me to get on the road out to Phoenix and then off to Los Angeles where I will be settling for at least a year or two, hopefully. Good luck everyone.

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notgordian
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 		Just received a clue via email from Ethan.

Quote:
Hello! Yes, this has been a strange time for many of us. I'm glad to hear that you are doing okay.

I have some very important information that I am excited to be able to pass on to you. It is regarding the search for the Folio page in the Southwest:

Weeks ago I was able to have a brief meeting with one of my contacts from within the Committee. While I was talking with her I was able to catch a glimpse of a page full of short statements. I believed that they were clues to the location of the dead drop of the folio page from someone known as Safe Hands A. Well, I recently talked with someone from your group and we cross-checked what we knew about the location of the drop. I was able to pass on two additional bits of info.

Last night I had the honor of meeting directly with someone else from high up in the Committee. I cannot be specific, but it was a humbling experience and I am still excited from it. While I talked with her I mentioned this list of statements and what I had passed on to your group. She ran a quick check and was able to clarify something: when I saw the page, I misread it! The page was folded upon itself and what I read as one statement was actually two!

So, now I can clear things up. Thanks to the unusual flexibility and inspiring rationality of this Committee member, I can now say with confidence that this what was really written upon that list of clues:

Much more than an overture occurred during the birth year of the holder.

The holder wears eighttwoone emsixfourtwopas.


I hope that helps. I apologize for getting it wrong the first time, but last night I saw the page again and I have to say that given the condition of the paper, my mistake was somewhat understandable.

Please pass this on to your teammates. I imagine it will be helpful to your search.

_E


The second one is obviously barcode information: 821 M642pas is John Milton's "Paradise Lost", on the 3rd floor of the Zimmerman Library. This particular copy was translated in 1812, so we have a match. It's the version translated by Juan Escoiquez, found here. This is a three volume set, so it's probably in the last book.

And sorry UnImportantHero, but the mail was only sent 30 minutes ago so the information came in too late to help you. Just goes to show the PMs watch the forums well.

So the poisoner angel was talking about Satan (uh, Paradise Lost) and the sixfourtwopas was an excerpt of the Dewey system.

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WolfHawk
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 		Ok Percoboist, now you know where to look!

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JohnnyCon7
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notgordian wrote:
Just received a clue via email from Ethan.

Quote:
Hello! Yes, this has been a strange time for many of us. I'm glad to hear that you are doing okay.

I have some very important information that I am excited to be able to pass on to you. It is regarding the search for the Folio page in the Southwest:

Weeks ago I was able to have a brief meeting with one of my contacts from within the Committee. While I was talking with her I was able to catch a glimpse of a page full of short statements. I believed that they were clues to the location of the dead drop of the folio page from someone known as Safe Hands A. Well, I recently talked with someone from your group and we cross-checked what we knew about the location of the drop. I was able to pass on two additional bits of info.

Last night I had the honor of meeting directly with someone else from high up in the Committee. I cannot be specific, but it was a humbling experience and I am still excited from it. While I talked with her I mentioned this list of statements and what I had passed on to your group. She ran a quick check and was able to clarify something: when I saw the page, I misread it! The page was folded upon itself and what I read as one statement was actually two!

So, now I can clear things up. Thanks to the unusual flexibility and inspiring rationality of this Committee member, I can now say with confidence that this what was really written upon that list of clues:

Much more than an overture occurred during the birth year of the holder.

The holder wears eighttwoone emsixfourtwopas.


I hope that helps. I apologize for getting it wrong the first time, but last night I saw the page again and I have to say that given the condition of the paper, my mistake was somewhat understandable.

Please pass this on to your teammates. I imagine it will be helpful to your search.

_E


I received that e-mail too, I just haven't been around, so I just saw it. I guess my post isn't really necesary anymore, other than to note that this information is very important, and Ethan wanted to be sure it got out.

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Percoboist
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 		I'm sorry I disappeared from this forum for a while, I was swamped with finals. Thank goodness for summer break.

Good job everyone on hunting for clues. I went to the library three times with only the first four clues and basically wasted a lot of time and made people stare.

I do not have the folio page (or pages?), but I'll make a run to the Zimmerman Library and check the book in question as soon as possible. I might be able to go tomorrow.

Sorry again for going AWOL.


Edit: Never mind, I see someone else has it, but I'm glad you guys were able to get the folio pages.

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