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[cissmiace]

[Sarah B]

Well, you haven't offended me at any rate.

I wish I knew what it said about the Illuminati on the 'ancient document'. My knowledge about them is limited to what I read in Angels and Demons and what I saw once on half a programme on National Geographic.

'De que manera' is Spanish for 'of which way' according to the Babelfish, but I can't read the other words well enough.

[Twee]

I'm looking at the spanish, but I'm having a hard time reading the middle line.. Anyone with sharper eyes than me care to have a guess at what the words are?

De que manera (babelfish says "of which way")
est-?
les illuminat�?


ETA:

Also, anyone recognise the "seal" (don't know what to call it)? The worn image at the bottom of the document...?

ETAA:

Sarah, we seem to be doing everything simultaneously.

[plugs]

It's the knights templar seal: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar_Seal

I can't figure out the spanish either. I got as far as you two but couldn't figure the other words.

"de que manera eston invocucrados los illuminati" was my closest guess. I'm notoriously bad a deciphering handwriting though.

[cissmiace]

Eston inve(or o)c(or l)ucrodos ??

[Sarah B]

I got eston too. And invetucrados or invetuciados.

Neither of which make any sense.

...and it's good to know we're all on the same wavelength!

[RedHatty]

I think the spanish is "de que manera estan involucrados los illuminati" Which roughly translates into "how does this involve the illuminati"

[Sarah B]

I'm about to run out but quickly:

http://www.dark-truth.org/nov222006-5-13-year-circle-illuminati.html

[Twee]

seems reasonable, redhatty. I was reading it invocucrados..

Oh, the knights templar seal. This just keeps getting more and more promising.

ETA:

Googling illuminati and Amundsen I found this, claiming Amundsen was a freemason. http://www.illuminati-news.com/famous-freemasons.htm

also random claims of there being "nazi-ufo secrets" at the Amundsen-Scott South Pole Station.

[RedHatty]

It is difficult to see, even at 400 times magnification because of that darn tape line, but invocucrados isn't a word, so I went from there to find a real word and the result that also fit the script was involucrados

[cissmiace]

Anyone any closer to figuring out what this says?

[Twee]

I think Phaedra translated it.

[cissmiace]

GAH! Im so blind thanks!!

[Twee]

Ok, just to gather what we've translated from the document..

[cissmiace]

Some more thoughts about Amundsen:

His ship, the Gj�a, became stuck into the ice, while traveling the northwest passage.

But also: