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Wild and Tame SPEC

Two things have burrowed into my brain, first is the article about hacking Flickr and the words circled on that page: Look Closely. Are we supposed to be looking for a flickr account? I vote Driz most likely to find it.

Second, Lovek's letter mentions this: I hope that tonight you will listen, that you will turn around. Maybe you could even tell the others...

Are we supposed to find an online radio broadcast? Did we miss clues that would lead us to a live chat?

We keep waiting for more packages but there seems to be a wealth of info in the packages we already have.

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Interesting thoughts. Smile I'm sort of waiting for more packages because I'm trying to get a feel for the size of that particular game board. For a while it looked like there were nine pieces to the watercolor, then sixteen, now possibly more. But you're right, we definitely already have a lot of information to play with.

In the Wild Spec arena, I find myself really wondering about Bast, in light of her sending us to the Sentry Outpost forum. I'd been thinking of her as the nebulous, myth-and-legend-oriented type psychic, in contrast to the hard-info investigators over at SO.

But what if she's something of a hacker (whether white hat or black hat) herself? How'd she even know about the SO forums? And how'd she get our addresses? We appear in her dreams, so she knows we exist. Okay. But did she also dream our addresses?

Finding us in the real world seems less a job for a psychic and more that of someone with good internet skillz.

Which raises another question for me. From what I understand of the Lovecraft mythos (or mythoi, maybe), the Big Baddies often communicated with their human servants via dreams.

Wikipedia article on Lovecraft wrote:
Castro explains the role of the Cthulhu Cult: When the stars have come right for the Great Old Ones, "some force from outside must serve to liberate their bodies. The spells that preserved Them intact likewise prevented them from making an initial move."[14] At the proper time,

" the secret priests would take great Cthulhu from His tomb to revive His subjects and resume His rule of earth....Then mankind would have become as the Great Old Ones; free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and killing and revelling in joy. Then the liberated Old Ones would teach them new ways to shout and kill and revel and enjoy themselves, and all the earth would flame with a holocaust of ecstasy and freedom.[16] "

Castro reports that the Great Old Ones are telepathic and "knew all that was occurring in the universe". They were able to communicate with the first humans by "moulding their dreams", thus establishing the Cthulhu Cult, but after R'lyeh had sunk beneath the waves, "the deep waters, full of the one primal mystery through which not even thought can pass, had cut off the spectral intercourse."[17] (emphasis mine)


Also, taken as a whole, Bast's conception of what we should be doing seems a little suspect. In some of the letters and Craigslist ads, she seems to be indicating that we should head toward the mountains. In others, it seems like by heading toward the mountains, we're marching off to get eaten by Cthulhu. (Or something.)

Granted, if she's Not To Be Trusted and is planning to use the internet to carry out nefarious misdeeds of some sort, sending us to a forum full of internet security experts seems like a strange move, unless she's hoping we'll distract or somehow involuntarily undermine what they're doing.

ETA: Whoops, forgot an H...
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Next up - the Lovecraft Spelling Bee! Or perhaps it's just the Typing Bee...
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Phaedra wrote:
Also, taken as a whole, Bast's conception of what we should be doing seems a little suspect. In some of the letters and Craigslist ads, she seems to be indicating that we should head toward the mountains. In others, it seems like by heading toward the mountains, we're marching off to get eaten by Cthulhu. (Or something.)


Well, most of the letters say that people should find and warn the others. Given that these letters are on the back of this watercolor painting showing Cthulhu at the mountains, I'd guess the painting is showing what these people heading off to the mountains are really headed for. So my interpretation is that we'd probably want to warn people away from the mountains.
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Ok - I'm pretty sure I just went off on a HUGE tangent, but just in case there are any grains of sanity in what I found:

I was browsing through the package contents and noticed these two pictures:
http://bsuwiki.arghive.com/Image:Outoftheforest-pic-bottom.jpg
http://bsuwiki.arghive.com/Image:KB-p23-top.jpg
and I looked into them in more detail.

They are manuscripts by Samuel Purchas written around 1613. The second is based on notes from Richard Hakluyt that Purchas completed after Hakluyt's death in 1616. Both are about English exploration around the world.

As an aside (I didn't look too much down this route) Hakluyt is credited with being the main driving force behind English colonisation in America. He founded Jamestown and established the colony in Virginia.

When Purchas wrote these books, he was the rector of St Martin's church, in Ludgate, London.

This letter:
http://bsuwiki.arghive.com/Personal_Letters#Thebruce_--_Kitchener_.2804.2F13.29
uses the word bedlam and there is the asylum pictured in the watercolour. At this time, Bedlam (the infamous asylum) was located just outside London's North Wall about 1/2 a mile from Ludgate.

Ludgate itself (just opposite the church) had been newly rebuilt at the time - it was originally built around AD 60 by King Lud, or named after him by the Romans. The gate was the main route to the Roman cemetry just inside the walls.

Lud (or LLud) was a (possibly mythical) Welsh King of Britain, and is supposed to be buried under Ludgate (and London is alleged to be derived from his name). The interesting bit about him are the stories in the Welsh legends known as the Mabinogion where he and his brother rid Britain of three supernatural menaces.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mabinogion
The Mabinogion may predate and be a precursor for the Arthurian legends (linking to the knight/dragon picture?).

The story of LLud and his brother taking on supernatural enemies of Britain
http://www.lundyisleofavalon.co.uk/texts/welsh/lludd.htm
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The first was a certain race that came, and was called the Coranians; and so great was their knowledge, that there was no discourse upon the face of the Island, however low it might be spoken, but what, if the wind met it, it was known to them. And through this they could not be injured.

Communication intercepts and eavesdropping.

Which they defeat by setting up an encrypted secure communications link:
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And they took counsel together to discourse on the matter otherwise than thus, in order that the wind might not catch their words, nor the Coranians know what they might say. Then Llevelys caused a long horn to be made of brass, and through this horn they discoursed. But whatsoever words they spoke through this horn, one to the other, neither of them could hear any other but harsh and hostile words. And when Llevelys saw this, and that there was a demon thwarting them and disturbing through this horn, he caused wine to be put therein to wash it. And through the virtue of the wine the demon was driven out of the horn. And [then] their discourse was unobstructed


Llud kills the Coranians by using special insects (it doesn't say if they were crickets Wink )

The second plague that he rids Britain of are two warring dragons that he gets drunk and buries in the Welsh mountains.

And finally:
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"The cause of the third plague," said he, "is a mighty man of magic, who takes thy meat and thy drink and thy store. And he through illusions and charms causes every one to sleep. Therefore it is needful for thee in thy own person to watch thy food and thy provisions. And lest he should overcome thee with sleep, be there a cauldron of cold water by thy side, and when thou art oppressed with sleep, plunge into the cauldron."

Everyone but Llud, who forces himself to be vigilant, is lulled into sleep (conned?) by illusions and charms (social engineering?).

... oh, and Ludgate ... destroyed in the Great Fire of london, 1666.


A burning city, madness, an asylum (Bedlam), communication intercepts, vigilance to illusions and charms (social engineering), secure encrypted communications, dragons, mountains, arthurian legend, supernatural enemies and insects!

I think I've probably managed to show how easy it is to link anything to anything if you try hard enough, rather than dig up anything useful - but there you go Laughing

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I always took 'head to the mountains' to mean flee. For example, the saying 'run for the hills'
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Wonderful information, Occultus - I'm learning alot!
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Wow Occultus, that was incredible Shocked

The only trouble with the whole Arthur thing is, every country in Great Britain claims he came from there. Tintagel in Cornwall, Wales obviously, even Scotland and Ireland have all called dibbs on the poor chap Laughing

Also, up until a few years ago, scholars believed Arthur was in fact a myth. Until this was unearthed at Tintagel:

Arthur Stone

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I have not read Lovecraft. Don't know why, just haven't gotten around to it. However, I noticed this reference in a link someone posted in the SO forum (boldface mine):

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu_Mythos_cults

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Church of Starry Wisdom

The Church of Starry Wisdom, or Starry Wisdom Cult, is a cult that worships Nyarlathotep in his aspect as the Haunter of the Dark. The cult was founded in Providence, Rhode Island circa 1844 by Professor Enoch Bowen, a renowned archeologist and occultist. The cult used a sacred relic known as the Shining Trapezohedron to summon the Haunter of the Dark, who demanded outrageous sacrifices in return for limitless knowledge of the universe.

Although the cult was publicly denounced by the other local churches, it nonetheless grew to have a membership of around 200 members. Mysterious disappearances in the area brought the cult under public scrutiny. After run-ins with both local citizens and the municipal government, the church closed and 181 people left Providence for unknown reasons. However, there is veiled evidence that they were dealt a more summary kind of justice than banishment.

The church held an extensive library of occult literature. The majority of these books was removed by one Doctor Dexter after the church was raided following the mysterious death of Robert Blake.

Though the Providence sect was officially disbanded in 1877, the Church of Starry Wisdom has appeared in other places including Yorkshire, England (1880 to 1890), Chicago, Illinois (where it was known as the Celestial Providence sect, but was later disbanded by the Great Chicago Fire of 1871), Arkham, Massachusetts (during the 1920s), and more recently in San Francisco (though the group was reputedly destroyed by arson). A few contemporary sects may still exist in Canada.[8] As recently as the 1970s the cult was present on Bioko (Fernando Póo) in Equatorial Guinea[9]


There appear to be several items in this text that might be helpful. First the obvious; this cult was started in Providence RI and we are supposed to be "Providence."

Also, there are references to "Haunter of the Dark," "Shining Trapezohedron,"and the names of several individuals. Might these have any importance?

Are we supposed to be re-forming the Church of Starry Wisdom and/or gathering its adherents together?

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I'm going to stick this here as it's all circumstantial and not very cohesive, and more importantly probably means nothing.

I was digging around for our "Angel" [again] and thought to go back to the source of it all. I found the one pictured below in a North Providence cemetery. The thing about her that "sticks out" [after many, many encounters with angels this past month] is her finger. I haven't seen one seem quite so prominent.

Then I found that Lovecraft himself was born at 454 Angell Street, and lived at 598 Angell Street from 1904-24.

The other connection with "Angell" comes in The Call of Cthulhu". The story is presented as a manuscript found among the papers of Francis Thurston. In the text, he recounts his discovery of notes left behind by his grand-uncle, George Gammell Angell, a prominent professor of Semitic languages at Brown University in Providence. The name Lovecraft chose for this character probably comes from his childhood home and his Uncle Gamwell, whose name was pronounced with a silent W.

So back to the "Angel" pictured below.

The name on the monument is F.A. ABELL (Fable?...lol) and after a quick google search, what I came up with for "Abell" is this. It reminded me a bit of all the "Space Text" stuff spewed from the file dumps (or whatever you call them).

Part of the accompanying text for the image...

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Explanation: Two billion light-years away, galaxy cluster Abell 1689 is one of the most massive objects in the Universe. In this view from the Hubble Space Telescope's Advanced Camera for Surveys, Abell 1689 is seen to warp space as predicted by Einstein's theory of gravity -- bending light from individual galaxies which lie behind the cluster to produce multiple, curved images.


There are other mentions of Abell numbers and Abell clusters - like 2218 or 4059 but I don't want to complicate things or muddy the waters with more space junk because a) I have no desire to go from non-hacking-helper status to non-astrophysicist-helper status and b) the first stuff I mentioned is probably irrelevant, so the secondary is bound to be less so.

ETA Okay on 11th glance, I don't think pic #2 is the same as pic #1, which would negate the whole second half of this postt (about Abell). I have to look some more, but the wings look wrong (both are from Providence cemeteries - just not sure which). Sorry for the waste of "space"... Wink
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I love Stream of Conciousness investigation; I do it all the time! Start out looking for one thing and end up on something very different and completely unrelated. One search I did for this game began with Lovecraft and ended up with a South Park ring tone. Talk about not even on the same field!!!!!!!! Confused

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Did we get a picture of the angel?

Hi, I'm new on the hunt and am finding that the clues that we do have are quite scattered (yes, there are several good collections, but still quite scattered for a newcomer).

My question is "Did we get a picture of the angel" from Ms. Bast aint feline? Could someone do a quick recap of the clues that we do have on the angel?

Also, does anyone have an original Call of Cthulu? The numbers on those pages may be page, paragraph, word. Well, unless someone has already puzzled out what the numbers mean.

My second thought on the numbers is that they may have given the correct font to use to produce the arabic character set since the wikipedia info about the I Ching names goes on to talk about the unicode characters for them. Anyone able to confirm/disprove that?

Edit: Sorry too much information to sift through. Apparently the book cipher on the red numbers was already done and it was, indeed, the correct answer. Here's the thread: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=316772

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Speculation on the circled words:

I think that the circled words were meant to be clues to put the watercolor puzzle together. The words that were circled were all on pages from either Mountains f Madness or Monsters of the Sea and all circled words were about sea monsters and mountains.

I think that we've solved the puzzle that those clues were meant for without the clues themselves being understood. I think they were meant to tell us to "look closely" at the watercolors and put together the picture of the sea monster and mountains.

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Chanur wrote:
My question is "Did we get a picture of the angel" from Ms. Bast aint feline? Could someone do a quick recap of the clues that we do have on the angel?


Welcome! Sorry about the scattered clues. I think that the leisurely pace of this game has led to a lot of slack in maintaining a well-documented trail of information for newcomers.

Anyway, I know that various people have tried very hard to locate a possible real angel. All we know is that she is 'faceless' and pointing up at the moon, and has a broken finger. Oh, and her name is Hope. I personally think this is not a real statue, but at this point we don't know.

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Also, does anyone have an original Call of Cthulu? The numbers on those pages may be page, paragraph, word. Well, unless someone has already puzzled out what the numbers mean.


That's not a bad speculation, given that we know that one of the original target audiences for this game was Cthulhu roleplayers. However, they seem to have all disappeared or were never interested to begin with, so that didn't pan out very well. We still have NOOOOO idea what the random book pages from the HP Lovecraft stories are all about.

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Speculation on the circled words:

I think that the circled words were meant to be clues to put the watercolor puzzle together. The words that were circled were all on pages from either Mountains f Madness or Monsters of the Sea and all circled words were about sea monsters and mountains.

I think that we've solved the puzzle that those clues were meant for without the clues themselves being understood. I think they were meant to tell us to "look closely" at the watercolors and put together the picture of the sea monster and mountains.


There's been a lot of debate about that. The general consensus now seems to be like what you are suggesting, that the circled words were just to give some 'flavor' and some indication of the themes of the rest of the game. Again, I personally think that's pretty crappy, to make something that seems so much like a puzzle turn out not to be a puzzle at all.

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I think I may have located our angel.

Check these out:

http://www.rootsweb.com/~iajohnso/Postcard21.htm
http://www.icgov.org/documents/oaklandhistory.pdf

She's faceless, she's missing a finger, she's pointing skyward, and in true gothic/Cthulu fasion.... she's a black angel.

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