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[PUZZLE] Undiscovered Dina pages
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yanka
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The only thing besides those mentioned, as far as the butterfly, was that Chinese guy that dreamt that he was a butterfly; so I tried some names like Zhuangzi, and that, of course, led nowhere.

I also tried a lot of random stuff with bisy, leaves, even "encore", Bizet, and Puccini Rolling Eyes etc., with no luck, obviously.

Jesse scetch:

"water and other solubles" - I was looking for names of things that would be soluble in water to make watercolors - found nothing noteworthy; tried stuff like "aquarelle", "pigment"...

a musical sketch would be something like "etude", right? Heh, that's not the name, though... I also thought of the styles/genre that this "sketch" would fall under - like "gravure" or "graphique".

Stared at this for a while hoping that something other than "dead" and "cafe" would come to mind, but Sad
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I've been told...

"there's a major clue that folks have dismissed as not being a clue, it's a recurring clue"

Do this help someone?
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Moriar wrote:
I've been told...

"there's a major clue that folks have dismissed as not being a clue, it's a recurring clue"

Do this help someone?


Actually, hmm. The music? Recurring on so many hidden Dina pages? (Ok, just two, now that I actually go back and look - Deadcafe and balladsoffrogs - the two whose titles didn't seem to make any sense, now that I think about it. I wonder what the reason was behind the names) So that its presence on the Jesse sketch may possibly be equivalent to the PMs hitting us in our collective head with a large collective brick. I just wish I knew what to do with it... heh, I just went and tried /music.html, thinking that if it worked, blood would have to be spilled. Alas... Mr. Green

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Is the Jesse music from the same piece as the others? It has different...um, what do you call it, I can't remember....the sharps and flats on the left of the notes? Also, it just looks different...less complicated. Ugh. I feel really useless, where are the music majors?

Also, I know that this has been discussed, but we never reached a consensus on what piece the music is from, right? It says "Sonata" on it...and there are lovely lines of impossible-to-read text here and there. Hmm. I tried scourging online sheet music databases, but I barely know what I'm looking for. I think I'm pretty sure this isn't from the Moonlight Sonata, in case anyone is wondering. Heh.

It's times like this that make me wish I hadn't convinced my mom to let me stop learning to play the piano after six years...

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I yield.

I gave it one last passthrough, just to see if something jumped out at me as a clue, and you know what? EVERYTHING jumped out at me as a clue. "bisy", Jesse sketch, Butterfly door, eye o' storm, Leiphe Lessons, HTML comments, offhand remarks about neighbors grazing their chis with car doors, Looking for JR, Old Married Couple, out there, the "np" songs, archives/000270.html... I could go on and on.

Give me a real clue, a reason to want to continue searching...otherwise just tell me the page.

I yield.

/me cries in dispair

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Is the Jesse music from the same piece as the others? It has different...um, what do you call it, I can't remember....the sharps and flats on the left of the notes? Also, it just looks different...less complicated. Ugh. I feel really useless, where are the music majors?


Actually, it's different music. Attached below is the music from deadcafe. On the first page of this thread in my post is the music from the Jesse sketch. There are three snippets of music on deadcafe, and some of them pick up and end in the middle of measures, so I've done whatever I could. The MIDI file below is the three snippets with about a second in between, looped three times.

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From [PUZZLE] Dina - Deadcafe / BalladsofFrogs / Triad Thread
Marl64 wrote:
"balladsoffrogs.jpg", "frogballards.jpg" and "cafedead.jpg" contain the same piece of music.

Anyone know what it is?

Dunno if the other pictures contribute anything extra - 'cos I can't read music.

3 Pictures containing the same piece of music Shocked

I can't help thinking it has to be significant - even if it's simply another clue only to an already solved puzzle.

But then I was wrong about Oct 1st Embarassed

joebrent wrote:
Attached below is the music from deadcafe. On the first page of this thread in my post is the music from the Jesse sketch. There are three snippets of music on deadcafe, and some of them pick up and end in the middle of measures, so I've done whatever I could.


Nice MP3, very distinctive. I think if it's something well known, it would definitely be recognisable from these snippets.

Does anyone have that service where you can play a piece of music into the phone and it tells you what it is? Would be really handy for this.
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I was thinking of using that for the other Dina music puzzle, but then people went and solved it anyway.

there's a mobile service in the UK called 'Shazam' but it requires 20 to thirty seconds of music. I think it costs 50p a song. Can't remember the number off hand.....
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Sorry, I, er, ahem...had a moment of weakness. Nothing to see here.

Here's an index of Music Information Retrieval systems, including the phone one mentioned above:

http://mirsystems.info/index.php?mirsystems

May be useful...

[EDIT]The phone service is called Vodafone, and it's in German.
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Looks like the Vodafone service is mostly for pop songs, but I'm sure they would have some of the more famous classical pieces in there. Perhaps the fastest way would be to have a musician friend identify them, then go here to verify it.

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Ok, two things on the leaf picture...

One:
On the right of the leaf, there appears to be a face. I highlighted it in the picture attached.

Two:
Below the leaf appears to be some writing. I cropped that, put it as a negative and tried to read it. It appears to be tabeal or febinu or something like that. Does someone have better graphics adjusting programs to get a sharper image?
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Medemia wrote:
Ok, two things on the leaf picture...

One:
On the right of the leaf, there appears to be a face. I highlighted it in the picture attached.

Two:
Below the leaf appears to be some writing. I cropped that, put it as a negative and tried to read it. It appears to be tabeal or febinu or something like that. Does someone have better graphics adjusting programs to get a sharper image?


I think those are a stretch. The most obvious thing about the leaf is that the middle or 3rd point is folded over.
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Here is another positively wrong venue.

The most "recurring" thing in their blogs is "now playing". I looked at all the lyrics, hoping that maybe there is something along the lines of Kat's password - a common word in all songs, or, maybe some sort of theme Rolling Eyes I don't see one; but it's really cool to look back at what was happening in Dina's life and see how closely the songs match those changes. I can almost visualize the whole chain of events just by reading all the lyrics. Poor Dina Sad

Another word I noticed repeated a lot in the blogs was "piano"; that's just one more useless piece of information.
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Guys.. a bell has rung in my head...

Leaf has more or less the same pronunciation of leiphe, plus, on leiphe's site there's a tree...


Does this mean that we're looking for Dina's Leiphe Map or something related? I'm now pretty sure it's something related to Leiphe!
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Moriar wrote:
Guys.. a bell has rung in my head...

Leaf has more or less the same pronunciation of leiphe, plus, on leiphe's site there's a tree...


Does this mean that we're looking for Dina's Leiphe Map or something related? I'm now pretty sure it's something related to Leiphe!


Got something here. On the Partners page, Dina is quoted:

http://www.leiphe.net/partners.html

Why do you think these styles and artists appeal to you?

In all music, there is this sense of communicating. Getting a message out to someone, whether they really hear it or not. Most of the music I like is emotive and lyrical, but I also jones for new music that is lyrically rich and and complicated. I feel like I am getting in touch with another side of myself when I immerse myself in music. The critic goes away, and I am left with just me and the reason music exists.

If you were dropped into the middle of a shopping center, where would it be? Is it crowded or empty? What color is it painted? What types of stores do you see?

I think there would be just enough people that I could walk through unhindered, but still have the feeling of humanity surrounding me. Soothing colors like mauve and dusty green and pale yellow, deep reds ... I don't know. It's hard to say - so much of the presentation of so many stores is about thwacking you soundly about the eyes with neon signs and loud placards and branding. It's this huge network, you see, all clamoring for attention and time. Very draining! I see stores that are well-established and homey, in my ideal shopping center - less of the plastic and formica, and a bit more of real wooden door frames and etched glass. Walkways wide and lined with live foliage, lighting less of the garish fluourescent kind, more warm. The stores are selling foolscap and luxurious writing pens, sheets of music, blank and printed with favorite songs. Clothes that are real and useful and look even better with a little wear and tear. The air is not clogged with orange julius and rancid hot dog smells, but is fresher, green.

Dina N., Chicago
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Moriar wrote:
Does this mean that we're looking for Dina's Leiphe Map or something related? I'm now pretty sure it's something related to Leiphe!


Very possible. The PMs told us that that we missed something that we talked about but never pursued. Plus, putting the the whole "Leiphe Map" thing on Leiphe.net was a big waste of time unless we find someone's Map...

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