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[cyberpunk]

[SPEC] Numbers above verses on Greater Good

[ylbissop]

leave it to a cyberpunk! yea! I haven't heard anything about this and lest you think it's too late to play.

1. you can start anywhere there is no such thing as too late.
2. trent mentioned in an interview that they where surprised at how the hard stuff people picked up on and some of what they thought where simple puzzles we had missed.
hey it's possible that you just broke the key to get this thing off on a roll again who knows why we haven't seen anything for a while.

perhaps everyone playing now is thinking too micro and not meta enough.

[cyberpunk]

haha alright! Now there are two methods to this:
1. Write down the code in the manner that the song is played....including how many times the verse is repeated.
or
2. Write the code just in the order the verses appear. [I'm leery about this because after long pauses in the song he will repeat the verse again...making me wonder if it's meant to be the same number twice.

SO, I will simply write the code in the order they appear, and maybe use the other method as a second resort:

141[1]21 (the number in brackets is when he goes back into the verse from the bridge like i said before)

If I were to use the other way this code would get MUCH longer.

Last thing to point out....maybe my ears are bad but not once in that song do I hear verses 3 or 5? Hope someone can make something of this!

[ylbissop]

[kilo_self[DECAY]]

where is verse 3?

i noticed there is no verse 3

verse 3

welcome to your new point of view
we have disappeared into you

[VMVash]

is there some connection with the songs "The Good Soldier", "The Greater Good", and "The Great Destroyer"?

The last verse of the good soldier is not sung... "no one's even sure what we're fighting for or who we even are anymore I feel so far away"

could that be referring to the hammer and the complacency paripin brings? maybe those are just shots in the dark but I think it's worth looking into.

[ylbissop]

never thought about a possible connection there i also noticed when you wrote that the song titles contain good <greater <great

[VMVash]

I have been looking at the album as a story. Bitts and peaces of peoples' lives that come together to represent this world.

"Hyperpower!" is to set the mood of the world being a harsh place.

"The Beginning of the end" says how hopeless everything is and how people are trying to destroy eachother to get gain.

"Survivalism" the ones smart enough form groups to survive the system and fight back.

"The good soldier" one person from a group of rebels doubting who he is in a war he doesn't understand.

"Vessel" I'm alittle at a loss of words... i don't know but my best guess would be a test subject for eather creating a more powerfull soldier or a new way to passify the masses. This subject dies.

"Me, I'm not" possably one of the survivers of the testing living the side effects or the correct ones.

"Capital G" The Rich and greedy who are telling the less fortunite to suck it up and stop blaming everyone else for their problems.

"My Violent heart" Those who have been battle hardend and are reimpowerd by their heartlessness.

"The Warning" the presince and the message sent or rather "felt" from within.

"God given" The raticals who set themselves abouve those who aren't of their faith. Maybe the First church of Plaino.

"Meet your master" Posably the First church of Plaino executing or inslaving those who they blame for the failures of society.

"The greater good" The brainwashing of those the fcop have captured. (im making those last 3 as i go)

"The great destroyer" The destroyer of humanity fearing being descoverd.

"Another version of the truth" the somber tune representing the descovery of the truth covered up by the government.

"In this twilight" http://youtube.com/watch?v=OYkDw7HNaSw i think this sums it up beautifully...if not brutaly.

"Zero-sum" the judgement day. A song of the regrets of the world.

There are many words omitted from the songs and lyrics, also on the site the song title for zero-sum is Zerio-Sum... I'm unsure of it though.

[CSfreestyle]

[VMVash]

[x]

I have a slightly different interpretation of this.

He says... I hope they cannot see, This potential living inside of me... to murder everything.

Thats not terrorism, Terrorism has a point usually. They kill the people that are opposing them. But... he says Murder EVERYTHING.

More like a Virus would. At times this album tells us to save the world, to turn back while we still can. ... at other times it says things like "Can we make it go faster?" ... implying the approach to the end of the world.

Its possible that there are players in this game that wish nothing more than to push us quickly towards that consequence. Its possible that some of the players have the intention of ending the human race.

Again thats not standard terrorism, thats genocide. ... It may be that they want to send some hidden message, or disease, or some dangerous thought, Hell even a hidden sound in the music that gave anyone listening cancer, anything that will push the world to the end.

To me i hear a scared character... Terrified that somone can see, or knows its thoughts. That somehow this character could be stopped, and desperatly believes that murdering everyone is the only right solution to ... saving his world.

Is it possible that this character isnt human?

[X]

Another possibility... It might be that this is a character with the Red Horse Virus. Possibly an Immune Carrier of the Virus. He might know and have plans to use this limitless potential "living" inside of him.

A person carrying this virus who was immune... could infect anyone he came in contact with, and thusly the people they were in contact with. It could spread very fast.

I would consider this person a Great Destroyer, IF he slipped under the radar... also why he could be so concerned with people finding out.

[x]

Has anyone done any waveform analysis of any of the songs?

I assume some of this has been done. I was looking at the simple
waveform visualization in WMP playing some songs produces some
odd looking waveforms, and some blips that look suspicious.

The first song Hyperpower seems to have an odd angled waveform that plays over and over. It looks like it has a signal on an odd angled wave. Might be hidden info.

Also the Vessel, during the beginning there is a odd waveform, and it blips to a flat signal for a brief second, twice right near the beginning, possibly more hidden info.

Im kinda wondering if anyone has done this kind of wave analysis. I dont have the equipment, and i havent used it since school. Maybe somone else in college studying waveforms and encryption schemes, can take a slow look at some of these forms and see if anything appears to be hidden.

If this has been done, Trout me, i searched the site. Didnt find anything on this. Also checked ninwiki.

[x]

Is it just me or does most of this album sound like data? ... Almost every song has some digital sample that sounds like a phone ring, or a modem, or static, ... most of the album has sounds that are typically places information is hidden.

Like a phone ring for example... usually between rings there is a hidden signal that we never hear that gives off Caller ID signals. Ive heard a phone ring in one of the songs. Ive heard modem sounds. ... and ive heard tons of static.

We all have seen the Signal found in the Warning. Looks like the presence.

Now ive seen other stuff that was hidden in the tracks. Is there a place specifically working on waveform breakdowns on each song? Analyzing each blip, tone and signal in the music?

[Lazy Coward]

In This Twilight Video and various tidbits