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[Hex Set] Silver #235 - Circuitous
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Peter Blake
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Joined: 01 Aug 2006
Posts: 9
Location: Brisbane, Australia

 		Revisiting Circuitous
relissh wrote:
perhaps when (if!) the cube is found, MC will put up some explantions to the puzzles?


I've no idea, but from looking over the discussion here, I believe Kalisco was on the right track:

kalisco wrote:
I think we should pay more attention to the fact that the answer asks for the first name only. This makes it unlikely that it's going to be someone who wouldn't normally be identified by just their first name.


Working on that assumption, Wikipedia has only two pages that fit the known answer:

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- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Joseph_%28disambiguation%29
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_%28Hebrew_Bible%29

That's a total of five people.


Perhaps we can attempt a back-solve?

PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 8:08 pm
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FairmontKing
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 		But then why would they need to specify first name only? There is no last name.

PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 11:49 pm
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Peter Blake
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Joined: 01 Aug 2006
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Location: Brisbane, Australia

 		A confession and a solution
I have a confession to make - I wrote #235 Circuitous. One or two people have asked for an explanation of how the card was intended to be solved, and now that Season 1 is long gone, I think it's safe to provide one...

(split into sections and spoilerised for your viewing pleasure)

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The circuit itself is utter nonsense - it's the components and their configuration that are important.


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Von's hint "Resist guessing" clues that the resistors are the easiest components to tackle first.


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Resistors have colour-coded stripes, which have connotations as follows:
  • 230kΩ - red, orange, yellow (rainbow)
  • 5.5MΩ - green, green, green (envy)
  • 2.2kΩ - red, red, red (passion)
  • 290MΩ - red, white, violet (wine)
  • 110Ω - brown, brown, brown (bread)
  • 770MΩ - violet, violet, violet (royalty)


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Now look at the shapes of the logic gates in conjunction with their adjacent resistors:
  • OR gate = moon
  • NOT gate and its outputs = wine glass
  • AND gate = slice of bread
  • XNOR gate and its outputs = cow


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Reading clockwise from the main battery, the components we think we understand come in the order:
  • Rainbow and moon
  • Envy
  • Passion
  • Wine and a wine glass
  • Bread and a slice of bread
  • Royalty and a cow


Now for the "aha" moment: perhaps it's the...
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Bible story of Joseph


Then the other components confirm the answer:
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  • 12V battery - 12 brothers
  • Telegraph key - travel
  • Diode shape - woman
  • Speaker - Joseph speaking for Pharoah
  • 0.2F capacitor - 20% of the harvest stored
  • Earth - barren ground
  • Battery - some brothers
  • Lamp - cup in a sack
  • Return to 12V battery - family reunited


So, to summarise (skip straight here for the big picture):
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  • You need to read clockwise from the main battery.
  • Resistors represent characters.
  • Logic gates represent dreams that particular characters had.
  • All the other components fit into the story somehow.
  • Putting it all together gives a person who is known only by his first name.


Feel free to ask questions, make comments or just throw rotten fruit. With the benefit of hindsight, do you think this puzzle was too hard?

Best,
Peter

PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:55 pm
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draggles
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 		...
Ohhhhh
It was pretty vague, I'll admit. How someone was supposed to obtain...

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"envy" from "green, green, green", "wine" from "red, white, violet" and the gates' relevance was craaaazy.


Ben
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 12:53 pm
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GasparLewis
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Whoa... Shocked
Just... um... wow...

And... but... with the... when...
Whoa.

That was utterly fiendish, and pretty far abstracted there, if I may say.
But still, bravo, you wonderful nutter, you.

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aliendial
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Location: Far Far Away. Nowhere Near You. Really.

 		Oh dear. So we didn't even have a good guess (i.e. that it was someone to do with electricity). We just got lucky. Fiendishly hard, I'd say. Or possibly we just missed the point. Some bits of the solve were isolated in our discussion but went nowhere - one posted the colors but got nothing from it; Brianenigma did postulate the appropriate use of the gates, but nobody picked up on it... Thanks for the explanation!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 4:42 pm
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FairmontKing
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 		Ditto on the thanks for the explanation. Before I saw the solve page, I wondered if it was a Bible character, but the "first name only" on the solve page threw me off. Ironically, that prompt is what allowed the correct solution to be guessed because it is such a common first name.

You didn't author Shuffled by any chance, did you? Laughing

PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:51 pm
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Peter Blake
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Joined: 01 Aug 2006
Posts: 9
Location: Brisbane, Australia
FairmontKing wrote:
...the "first name only" on the solve page threw me off. Ironically, that prompt is what allowed the correct solution to be guessed because it is such a common first name.

Yeah, the "first name only" was a late addition - and it hindered more than it helped. I mean, it's not like anyone would complain because

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Joseph son of Jacob


wasn't accepted.

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You didn't author Shuffled by any chance, did you? Laughing

I wish I had, but no. Wink

PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2007 12:41 am
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kalisco
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 		Hmmmm.

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