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Lusche
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Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 89 Location: Columbus, NE
Suspicious 1. Why is Grant there at 4 in the morning?
2. Sonia looks to see if anyone is watching, but walks out as if nothing is going on.
3. Frank at almost 11pm, finds nothing and leaves. Do we know if he was still an employee on that date?
My guess is that we will have to tell Christina which video we think is suspicious.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:41 am
avalonfox
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date So Andrew was actually kidnapped on May 19th, right?
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:46 am
Lusche
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Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 89 Location: Columbus, NE
Re: date
avalonfox wrote:
So Andrew was actually kidnapped on May 19th, right?
It appears so. Which makes it a Saturday if they are going by a real calendar.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:52 am
tinkerbell1313
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Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 33
video answer to day 7
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Check out video 7.3 it is missing 34 sec. of time. It has been cut out.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:54 am
TXVisitor
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Keep in mind, sleepless, that the date is a Saturday, probably not a regular work day for most of the employees.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:56 am
avalonfox
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Re: date
Lusche wrote:
avalonfox wrote:
So Andrew was actually kidnapped on May 19th, right?
It appears so. Which makes it a Saturday if they are going by a real calendar.
Sooo.....these 3 people were working on a Saturday (we assume)....hmm...great alibi if Andrew was kidnapped while they were there.
(and the plot thickens)
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:58 am
TXVisitor
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Sorry about previous post ... too many people posting at about the same time
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 4:59 am
sleepless
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Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 267 Location: New York
Things that look strange on the videos Okay I'll go through them one at a time. This is what I notice:
Firstly Christina says the video archives were from the day Andrew was kidnapped which puts the date to Saturday May 19th and not the 20th as we thought.
Grant enters at 04:34:18 (4:34 am) and scribbles out a note and leaves the note on Andrew's keyboard. Notice there is only one file on Andrew's desk when Grant is in Andrew's office. An odd time to be at Akron that's for sure!
Sonia enters at: 08:16:32 (8:16am) - Firstly notice Grant's note that he left on the keyboard at 4.34am is no longer there and neither is the notepad that lay next to the keyboard. However there is no longer 1 file on the desk but 2. Sonia places a file she brought in on Andrew's keyboard and then turns back and removes a file from Andrew's file cabinet. Suspicious? Maybe but then again she assists Andrew and it would be normal for her to retrieve files. What looks suspicious is the quick glance she snuck almost as if she wanted to make sure the coast is clear.
Frank enters at: 22:54:33 (10:54pm) Note there is only 1 file on the desk instead of the 2 that were there before and the file Sonia placed on the keyboard is missing. Frank pokes through Andrew's files real fast but then leaves without taking anything. Suspicious actions and he had no business being in Andrew's office and certainly not at that time.
Those are my observations. So what do we make of this?
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:03 am
shrimp1509
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Joined: 09 Jun 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Penna.
Carson Bree Hello iam new here but been watching and reading since the start.The kid napper with the bump on his forehead, if you look at Carson brees he has 1 too. maybe i should just read and not talk.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:07 am
sleepless
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Re: video answer to day 7
tinkerbell1313 wrote:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Check out video 7.3 it is missing 34 sec. of time. It has been cut out.
Good job tinkerbell1313 - so from:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
04:34:25 the video jumps to 04:34:59
i wonder if that's the time stamp answer?
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:08 am
avalonfox
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Re: video answer to day 7
sleepless wrote:
tinkerbell1313 wrote:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Check out video 7.3 it is missing 34 sec. of time. It has been cut out.
Good job tinkerbell1313 - so from:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
04:34:25 the video jumps to 04:34:59
i wonder if that's the time stamp answer?
QUICK CATCH TINKER
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:10 am
sleepless
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Joined: 05 Jun 2007 Posts: 267 Location: New York
Re: video answer to day 7
avalonfox wrote:
sleepless wrote:
tinkerbell1313 wrote:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Check out video 7.3 it is missing 34 sec. of time. It has been cut out.
Good job tinkerbell1313 - so from:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
04:34:25 the video jumps to 04:34:59
i wonder if that's the time stamp answer?
QUICK CATCH TINKER
I noticed something else about that:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
look at the water bottle before and after the piece that was cut out. someone moved the water bottle so that proves someone was messing around in there during those missing seconds.
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:15 am
avalonfox
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HMMMM Ok...let's say that Andrew showed up for work....got the message to meet Sonia.....left to meet Sonia....got kidnapped.
Could the message that Grant left be the message to meet Sonia or was that done thru an email?
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:22 am
sleepless
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Re: HMMMM
avalonfox wrote:
Ok...let's say that Andrew showed up for work....got the message to meet Sonia.....left to meet Sonia....got kidnapped.
Could the message that Grant left be the message to meet Sonia or was that done thru an email?
That was done through email
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:25 am
dixiedooh
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clarification time line I think time stamp has been changed on videos:
first...notice the continuity of evrything else but the clock:
Grant is the only one that goes into an office that has the lights on, a bottle of water on the desk and a piece of fruit some would no doubt want before the day is out......and is carrying a folder. There is some video missing from right before he comes in and then he appears to leave a note.
Now lets just assume (humor me) that this was the first video instead of the second. Grant...not knowing for sure where anything is....they plan a rouse to get andrew out of the office with sonia's e-mail (notice the computer mouse is moved after the time lapse. Andrew leaves to meet sonia, but not before cleaning up his fruit, water bottle, and turning out the lights.
Then the real second video with Sonia. She carries in the folder Grant had (the fake one with the favorable test results for freevira). and places it in plain site on the computer key board and almost leaves before grabbing the real test folder out of the file cabinet...but grant visually instructs her or she remembers to backtrack. Andrew is long gone now...on his way to meet sonia...(judging by the length of the shadows in the abduction video it would be around this time.
Next we have Frank. Frank is definitely being more on the sly...but he is les ofraid of being noticed. In fact he looks right at the video camera to make sure it's on (his protection in case confronted in his search...because he too is afraid).
Frank rifles through the two files stacked on top of each other on the desk, and finally looks in the file cabinet for the test result folder and does not find it. Scared shitless (no reference to an earlier anogram...lol), and heads out of dodge.
And to tie up the lose end of where the file went that was on the keyboard...that was where grant told sonia to put it because someone else outside of suspission was going to pick it up for some other review or purpose.
Thoughts?
Posted: Sun Jun 10, 2007 5:27 am
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