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[SPEC] Indirect Contact Method?
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konamouse
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[SPEC] Indirect Contact Method?

TM wrote:
In reference to Higgs and Ben and their contact or portal, has
anyone attempted to communicate with Higgs indirectly
? Perhaps
there is a way to get some real answers from him. He seems to be
able to get messages to you Sammeeeees.


I've been thinking about this all night.
Leaving messages for him on his MySpace comments has generated a little bit of information (and he has used it to point us to blogspots). Being that many folks can't access MySpace (NSFW) or refuse, this might be a good alternative.

What about creating a blogspot that allows comments????? I'm going to play around with this idea today.
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That's a great idea Kona. The blogspot would be alot better myspace, Smile at the very least more people would prefer it.
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konamouse
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kona wrote:
On Sun, 17 Jun 2007
I had an idea.
http://konamouse.livejournal.com/2007/06/17/
--
'squeek'


I gave this to both TM & Dwin.

TM wrote:
Monday, June 18, 2007
This will work nicely for more private conversations. I am not
certain those who have this Trinity over their shoulder will be
able to speak freely anywhere. Perhaps they can use it as another
avenue to send messages. We will have to wait and see. I do
think, however, that the White Roses should know about your place.
It might be a perfect way to communicate with them once they peek
out from their hiding places.
TM


Question: name the White Rose who has a passion for Surfing
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Answer: Nedd Ludd


Dwin wrote:
What's the number thing you sent me? Is it a code? Is this the same thing I saw on Higgs MySpace?


Given a hint, he figured out the code and posted on the blogspot.
Dwin wrote:
I love this! I will show it to my Mom later. She's still sleeping. I think she was up a lot last night. I got up to go to the bathroom and saw her in the living room. I thought she might be sick or something but she said she just couldn't sleep. I'm glad she's finally sleeping.

out


Edit to add - This just appeared on the comments:
Quote:
OH, WHAT A NOBLE, DISTINGUISHED COLLECTION OF FINE LITTLE FRIENDS YOU HAVE MADE HITTING THE TABLES WITHOUT YOU AGAIN NO, WE'LL WAIT, NO, WE PROMISE WE'LL WAIT WELL JUNE MAKES THESE EXCELLENT SEWING MACHINES OUT OF COMMON INDUSTRIAL WASTE SHE SPENDS A FEW MONTHS AT A TIME ON THE COUCH BUT SHE'S SAFE, SHE WEARS SHADES, SHE WEARS SHADES AH BUT NO ONE CAN STARE AT THE WALL AS GOOD AS YOU, MY BABYDOLL AND YOU'RE ACES FOR COMING ALONG YOU'RE ALMOST HUMAN AFTER ALL AND YOU'RE LEARNING THAT JUST CAUSE THEY CALL THEMSELVES FRIENDS DOESN'T MEAN THEY'LL CALL THEY MADE THE COMMENT IN JEST BUT YOU'VE GOT THE NEEDLE I GUESS THAT'S THE POINT OF IT ALL MAYBE A WEEK IN THE TROPICS WOULD HELP TO REMIND YOU DICK HOW NICE LIFE CAN BE WE PROPPED YOU RIGHT UP IN A CHAIR ON THE DECK WITH A BEAUTIFUL VIEW OF THE SEA BUT A COUPLE WEEKS LATER WE CAME BACK AND YOU AND THE CHAIR WERE NOWHERE TO BE SEEN YOU HAD MAGICALLY MOVED TO THE CLOSET EYES FIXED TO THE PLACE WHERE THE DRYER HAD BEEN AH BUT, NO ONE CAN STARE AT THE WALL AS GOOD AS YOU, MY BABYDOLL AND YOU'RE ACES FOR PLAYING ALONG YOU'RE ALMOST HUMAN AFTER ALL WHY ON EARTH WOULD I KEEP YOU PROPPED UP IN HERE WHEN YOU SO LOVE THE FALL? THE PATTERN'S LAID OUT ON THE BED WITH DOZENS OF COLOURS OF THREAD WHITE BUT YOU'VE GOT THE NEEDLE I GUESS THAT'S THE POINT IN THE END IT'S BETTER TO WASTE YOUR DAY WATCHING THE SCENERY CHANGE AT A COMATOSE RATE THAN TO PUT YOURSELF IN IT AND TURN INTO ONE OF THOSE CIGARETTE ADS THAT YOU HATE BUT WHILE YOU WERE SLEEPING SOME MEN CAME AROUND SAID THEY HAD SOME DIMENSIONS TO TAKE I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT BUT THEY SURE MADE A MESS OF YOUR FACE AH BUT STILL NO ONE CAN STARE AT THE WALL AS GOOD AS YOU, MY BABYDOLL AND YOU'RE ACES FOR PLAYING ALONG YOU'RE ALMOST HUMAN, EVEN NOW AND JUST CAUSE THEY SAY CALL THEMSELVES EXPERTS DOESN'T MEAN SWEET FUCK ALL THEY'VE GOT THE PERMANENT PRESS AND HOMES WITH A STABLE ADDRESS AND THEY'VE GOT EXCITEMENT AND LIFE BY THE FISTFUL
BUT YOU'VE GOT THE NEEDLE
I GUESS THAT'S THE POINT OF IT ALL

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:34 am
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The above is a Dresden Dolls song called "The Point of It All."

The original lyrics:
Quote:
Oh, what a noble, distinguished collection
Of fine little friends you have made
Hitting the tables without you again
No, we'll wait, no, we promise we'll wait
And June makes these excellent sewing machines
Out of carmen industrial waste
She spends a few months at a time on the couch
But she's safe, she wears shades, she wears shades
But no one can stare at the wall as good as you, my babydoll
And you're aces for playing along
You're almost human after all
And you're learning that just cause they call themselves friends
Doesn't mean they'll call
They made the comment in jest
But you've got the needle
I guess that's the point of it all

Maybe a week in the tropics will help
To remind you how nice life can be
We propped you right up in a chair on the deck
With a beautiful view of the sea
A couple days later we came back
And you and the chair were nowhere to be seen
You had magically moved to the closet
Eyes fixed to the spot where the dryer had been
Oh yes, no one can stare at the wall as good as you, my babydoll
And you're aces for coming along
You're almost human after all
Why on earth would I keep you propped up in here
When you so love the fall?
The pattern's laid out on the bed
With dozens of colours of thread
But you've got the needle
I guess that's the point in the end

It's better to waste your day watching the scenery change at a comatose rate
Than to put yourself in it and turn into one of those cigarette ads that you hate
But while you were sleeping some men came around
Said they had some dimensions to take
I'm not sure what they were talking about
But they sure made a mess of your face
But still no one can stare at the wall as good as you, my babydoll
And you're aces for coming along
You're almost human, even now
And just cause they say that they're experts doesn't mean sweet f*** all
They've got the permanent press
And homes with a stable address
And they've got excitement
And life by the fistful
But you've got the needle
I guess that's the point of it all


The 'comments' version:
Quote:
OH, WHAT A NOBLE, DISTINGUISHED COLLECTION OF FINE LITTLE FRIENDS YOU HAVE MADE
HITTING THE TABLES WITHOUT YOU AGAIN
NO, WE'LL WAIT, NO, WE PROMISE WE'LL WAIT
WELL JUNE MAKES THESE EXCELLENT SEWING MACHINES
OUT OF COMMON INDUSTRIAL WASTE SHE SPENDS A FEW MONTHS AT A TIME ON THE COUCH
BUT SHE'S SAFE, SHE WEARS SHADES, SHE WEARS SHADES
AH BUT NO ONE CAN STARE AT THE WALL AS GOOD AS YOU, MY BABYDOLL
AND YOU'RE ACES FOR COMING ALONG
YOU'RE ALMOST HUMAN AFTER ALL
AND YOU'RE LEARNING THAT JUST CAUSE THEY CALL THEMSELVES FRIENDS
DOESN'T MEAN THEY'LL CALL
THEY MADE THE COMMENT IN JEST
BUT YOU'VE GOT THE NEEDLE
I GUESS THAT'S THE POINT OF IT ALL

MAYBE A WEEK IN THE TROPICS WOULD HELP TO REMIND YOU DICK HOW NICE LIFE CAN BE
WE PROPPED YOU RIGHT UP IN A CHAIR ON THE DECK
WITH A BEAUTIFUL VIEW OF THE SEA
BUT A COUPLE WEEKS LATER WE CAME BACK AND YOU AND THE CHAIR WERE NOWHERE TO BE SEEN
YOU HAD MAGICALLY MOVED TO THE CLOSET EYES FIXED TO THE PLACE WHERE THE DRYER HAD BEEN
AH BUT, NO ONE CAN STARE AT THE WALL AS GOOD AS YOU, MY BABYDOLL
AND YOU'RE ACES FOR PLAYING ALONG YOU'RE ALMOST HUMAN AFTER ALL
WHY ON EARTH WOULD I KEEP YOU PROPPED UP IN HERE
WHEN YOU SO LOVE THE FALL?
THE PATTERN'S LAID OUT ON THE BED
WITH DOZENS OF COLOURS OF THREAD
WHITE
BUT YOU'VE GOT THE NEEDLE
I GUESS THAT'S THE POINT IN THE END

IT'S BETTER TO WASTE YOUR DAY WATCHING THE SCENERY CHANGE AT A COMATOSE RATE THAN TO PUT YOURSELF IN IT AND TURN INTO ONE OF THOSE CIGARETTE ADS THAT YOU HATE
BUT WHILE YOU WERE SLEEPING SOME MEN CAME AROUND
SAID THEY HAD SOME DIMENSIONS TO TAKE I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT
BUT THEY SURE MADE A MESS OF YOUR FACE AH BUT STILL NO ONE CAN STARE AT THE WALL AS GOOD AS YOU, MY BABYDOLL
AND YOU'RE ACES FOR PLAYING ALONG
YOU'RE ALMOST HUMAN, EVEN NOW
AND JUST CAUSE THEY SAY CALL THEMSELVES EXPERTS
DOESN'T MEAN SWEET F*** ALL
THEY'VE GOT THE PERMANENT PRESS
AND HOMES WITH A STABLE ADDRESS
AND THEY'VE GOT EXCITEMENT
AND LIFE BY THE FISTFUL
BUT YOU'VE GOT THE NEEDLE
I GUESS THAT'S THE POINT OF IT ALL

(*'s are mine for TOS sake.)


I noted the differences in the 'comments' version in red. Depending on what version of the original lyrics you read, it's either "coming along" or "playing along" , and "they call themselves experts" or "they say that they're experts". I didn't note those differences. I think I caught all of them, but maybe not. Someone more familiar with the band might want to double-check me.

(ETA: Now will someone please tell me which blog this was left on? Can't seem to find it on my own. Still looking...) Thanks, Enaxor!!!

PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:04 pm
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The song lyrics were posted by Nymphus, which led to a new blog.

http://iamstandingatthealtar.blogspot.com/

There are a couple of messages hidden in the source, in the "variable definitions" section.

Quote:
I had no choice, we cannot fail, I promise this is the way


and this (Thanks Methos)

Quote:
paterwilltellyoumoreaboutourmissiontomorrownight

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:24 pm
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Again another Mithras reference. I can't find an exact copy of the photo on Nymphus' blog, but I am positive it's Mithras again. I've found a photo of a similar statue here:
http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/Commentary/Great_Seal.htm
about 3/4 of the way down the page.

If I can find the exact photo with confirmation that it's Mithras (just for my own anal mind...) I'll edit.

ETA: Well, that was quick. Sorry! Here it is:
http://map.twentythree.us/laddism.html

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SO SORRY for the double post, but Holy Bride, Batman! I can't believe I missed this:

Nymphos: (from http://www.textfiles.com/occult/mithras )
Quote:
The lowest grade, `Corax' or Raven, stood under the protection
of Mercury; the next, `Nymphos', has been translated as `Bride', but
is a masculine noun, thereby paradoxically meaning a male bride (a
term which appears in later mystery cults such as the Rosicrucians);
members of this grade were also known as `Cryphius', `Veiled'. The
grade was under the tutelage of Venus.


(bold emphasis mine.)

So Nymphos is the Bride??? And it is a MALE. So now who are our suspects???

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TallMan (who kept asking when Patricia was going to Maine, but also told us about the White Roses)
Higgs (from whom we contacted TM but also to whom this attempt at "indirect contact" was delivered, and who previously used these song lyrics to hide a message)
Addison (who has been missing the longest, and had the weakest mind)
Dwin {who has already made known he thinks Mithras is a great "superhero" and is using it as his avatar on LJ)

Quote:
They were, from least to greatest, Corax, Nymphus, Miles, Leo, Perses, Heliodromus, and Pater.


Hmmmmm....
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Yup, looks like we're going to fill out all 7 levels of the Mithras initiates, since we've already got the reference to the "PLUCKED RAVEN" (Corax), the Pater, and now the reference to our Bride, Nymphus.

I'm not familiar enough with the first Sammeeeees to know exactly what role Dick White played, but I do find it interesting that he's referenced in the Dresden Dolls' lyrics on the Indirect Communication blog. If he was a White Rose, maybe he should be added to your list of potentials as well, Kona? I dunno. TM mentioned that he was found by other White Roses in his home, not breathing on May 5. Is a follow up on Dick in order since his whereabouts are currently unknown?

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Dick White was pretty OLD and barely breathing last fall. He was the founder of the White Roses - very anti-Spoocheeeee.
For him to show up on his own to take Peeps, sounds pretty farfetched.
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Sorry, Kona, I guess I wasn't clear. I meant that maybe Dick should be added to your potentials for one of the 7 initiates...possibly Pater? A likely candidate, as the founder of the WRs.

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