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myf
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I was just about to ask the same thing. The only sensible thing I could suggest would be that some illiterate oik had put it back in the wrong place.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:37 am
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If these two people are from the book, and they somehow came out - could it not make sense that they will try and continue their normal routine in this world instead of their own?

So for example if it was written that they would go to Reading, that they would travel there anyway just in this world instead of in the book...

random idea - might help find them - if there is a purpose to the book they came out of, that might be what they are (trying) to do...

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New message on her blog. Though it doesn't really tell us a lot...

Amy has gone trawling around London, and as we know - has found herself a lead. Though is reluctant to say for fear of sounding stupid...

I was thinking maybe the places she went to had something in common, like a big event going on soon, or even now. That might give us a clue as to what her lead is...

Quote:
British museum
Doughtey Street
the London Library
the British Library
the Sherlock Holmes museum


But that seems a bit vague - considering what they are - its unlikely they would run the same events at the same time.

Could they be significant, or are they just names?

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On the wikipedia page about If on a winter's night a traveler, it talks about a book containing a large amount of blank pages. Which reminds me of the copy of Wuthering Heights which had a large portion of it's pages blank.

After reading the first chapter of it (which is really the second chapter of the actual book), the reader finds the book is misprinted and contains only more copies of that same chapter. When he goes to return it he is given a replacement book, but this turns out to be another novel altogether. Just as he becomes engrossed in that, it too is broken off: the pages, which were uncut, turn out to have been largely blank.

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I'm picking up a copy of Calvino's book tonight -- partially to see if there are any clues, but mostly because it looks like an interesting novel. If anything strikes me as important, I'll share! Very Happy

*Mokey goes off to read like the nerdy little bookworm she is*

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not sure about this ARG

Not really sure about this ARG, I mean it is encouraging us to read - what is the world coming to when a game gets a reading literature Laughing

Just on Doughty Street, there is the Charles Dickens Museum, you can check out the street at Wickpedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doughty_Street.

I checked out the British Museum site because it is only site not on her list that is book related in some obvious way but I could not see anything that stands out.
So far we have been the following authors names Bronte, Calvino, Conan Doyle (sherlock holmes), and Dickens (doughty street). Anyone know any classic authors which start with E?

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There are dozens... None of which seem particularly related, but anyway - a list I found:

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E
Charles A. Eastman
Maria Edgeworth
George Eliot (Mary Anne Evans)
T. S. Eliot
Edward S. Ellis
Jose Echegaray
Ralph Waldo Ellison
Jonathan Edwards
Ralph Waldo Emerson
José Echegara Eizaguirre
Olaudah Equiano
George Etherege
Rudolf Christoph Eucken
I Elizabeth
Epictetus

F
Michael Fairless
Edna Ferber
Enrico Ferri
Eugene Field
Henry Fielding
John Filson
John Fiske
Edward Fitzgerald
F. Scott Fitzgerald
Gustave Flaubert
Ian Fleming
John Fox, Jr.
Benjamin Franklin
Harold Frederic
E. A. Freeman
Adelaide L. Fries


there are probably loads more... Any of them seem to stick out to anyone?

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I think the more importatn question is why did the authors start with B and not A. I think we probably missed something, like some author whos last name starts with an A.

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I've left it hidden in the Brontes so that you can see for yourselves


I think this means ive got a mission then. Ive got free time this saturday, so ill make my way there for a bit of book hunt. Im a little worried by the comment that the book has disappeared but hey what have i got to lose!

Any ideas from people about anything else i should do when im at the shop?

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Try to take a cameraphone so you can take pictures of anything that might be a clue!
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Ah no worries about that, a digital camera is always on hand. Ill make sure to fully document anything i find! Ill also keep my eyes peeled for Amy name tags.

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Ooooh, "If On a Winter's Night a Traveler"! One of my favorites! (and yeah, I'm fairly sure you can consider it a classic)

One reason it might have been brought up is the first chapter, which it's fairly famous for. It spends the entire chapter talking to the reader about the process of picking out books and the optimal way to read them. I'd say it was postmodern, but I overuse that term way too much.

I'd think it would be brought up to let you know to search for a book at Fowles. Either that, or we're being primed that we're dealing with a story within a story within a story (Calvino utilized framing in the book in a very interesting manner).

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Ok - so three new blog posts by Amy...

The first, tells us of another book found in the wrong place, this time, Wind in the Willows in the crime section... She requests that whoever sees it - leaves it where it is. She doesn't know where Wuthering Heights went. Post finishes by saying that the lead she had that seemed like a long shot - but paid off

The second blog post is that of a handwritten letter, by Havisham herself (great expectations). She asks if Amy is really an 'outlander' (what I suppose is somebody outside of a book e.g. in this world), and to see if she is, she asks some odd questions that I only a real person would get correct I suppose because...

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My dear girl,
you SAY, of course I can trust you, but it needs more than that to convince an agent of long standing (all right, some standing) like myself. These are hard times. Harder perhaps than you know (?). Why were you pointing that hand-chatters (?) box at me? How did you know to leave your messages at the house in Doughty Street? Are you truly an outsider yourself?
Tell me your mothers middle name, send a (i don't understand what that says??) of yourself, in (something) and tell me who you most like in "The Cricket on the Hearth" and why. Then perhaps we may speak further.
Havisham


The third letters is a response to Amy's reply, again from Havisham. Looks like we were right with the Ffordian link, as we can see by looking at the last paragraph.

Quote:
Very well. So you are an outlander. No fictional character would have known how utterly unrealistic all the Christmas stories are. Nonetheless matters are complex. The old curiosity shop is not yet open for business.
Explain to me. Where are the literary detectives? Where is SpecOps 27? I have taken your horseless coach to Swindon but I cannot find them. Help me find them and I will tell you more.
Havisham


SpecOps 27 being the branch of the Special Operations unit that leads searches into Literary crime...

Looks like we have to help Amy track down SpecOps27

I wonder what she put in her letter... and how is she speaking to Havisham?


--edit--
Added the letters to post...

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Well, that's me shown up wrong then!

Wind In The Willows makes sense, as Mr Toad does appear in some of the Fforde novels - certainly in Well of Lost Plots, but I can't remember if he's in any others.

cows, that word in the first letter that you couldn't make out is daguerreotype - she wanted a baby photo!

Looks like this would be a good time to post the blurb about the upcoming book:
Jasper Fforde's site wrote:
It is fourteen years since Thursday Next pegged out at the 1988 SuperHoop, and the Special Operations Network has been disbanded. Using Swindon's Acme Carpets as a front, Thursday and her colleagues Bowden, Stig and Spike continue their same professions, but illegally.

Of course, this front is itself a front for Thursday's continued work at Jurisfiction, the Policing agency within the bookworld, and she is soon grappling with a recalcitrant new apprentice, an inter-genre war or two, and the inexplicable departure of comedy from the once-hilarious Thomas Hardy books.

As the Council of Genres decree that making books interactive will boost flagging readership levels and Goliath attempt to perfect a trans-fictional tourist coach, Thursday find herself in the onerous position of having to side with the enemy to destroy a greater evil that threatens the very fabric of the reading experience.

With Aornis Hades once again on the prowl, an idle sixteen-year-old son who would rather sleep in than save the world from the end of time, a government with a dangerously high stupidity surplus and the Swindon Stiltonistas trying to muscle in on her cheese-smuggling business, Thursday must once again travel to the very outer limits of acceptable narrative possibilities to triumph against increasing odds.


Published on the 5th July in the UK and the 23rd July 2007 in the USA.
(Australia and Canada dates to be announced) For tour dates and talks, please go to Appearances

For information on the new UK Competition go to:
www.jasperffordecompetition.com


For anyone who wants to have a look, you will find Fforde Grand Central at http://www.jasperfforde.com/ - some of the stuff on there might prove rather useful.

I thought it might be handy to post the break-down of SpecOps divisions:
www.specops.org.uk wrote:
Who We Are & What We Do
The special operations network was instigated in 1972 to handle policing duties considered either too unusual or too specialised to be tackled by the regular forces. Over the years we have found our power increased to look after governmental departments, an opportunity to serve that we find fulfilling and challenging. Next year we hope to celebrate our thirty year anniversary and we would like to take this opportunity to thank the Milkenlast party for its support over the years and add that where freedom, truth, good taste and safety is concerned, SpecOps is usually way out in front.

There are thirty-four divisions in total, not all of whom covered by the parliamentary 'freespeech' ordinance 392810-hg25. See the list below and click on the division in question for more information.

SpecOps-1
Special Operations Network Management. At SO-1 we run the entire network. Every SpecOps division is answerable to us. New official complaints procedure is now in place.

SpecOps-2
Classified: SpecOps division subject to secrecy certificate number 23/681

SpecOps-3
Classified: SpecOps division subject to secrecy certificate number 23/681

SpecOps-4
Classified: SpecOps division subject to secrecy certificate number 23/681

SpecOps-5
Search & containment facility
A division for dealing with the planet's worst villains and wrongdoers.

SpecOps-6
National Security and diplomatic
protection. If SO-6 had been on duty the night President Formby was nearly assassinated, civil war may have been avoided.

SpecOps-7

Classified: SpecOps division subject to secrecy certificate number 23/681

SpecOps-8
Classified: SpecOps division subject to secrecy certificate number 23/681

SpecOps-9
Anti-terrorism.
The division that deals with the nation's worst terror groups. (No further information)

SpecOps-10

Classified: SpecOps division subject to secrecy certificate number 23/681

SpecOps-11
Classified: SpecOps division subject to secrecy certificate number 23/681

SpecOps-12
Office for Special Temporal Stability (The ChronoGuard)
Recruitment drive now on due to industrial action expected in fifteen years ago.

SpecOps-13
Genetic Detectives.
This is the division that polices illegal gene-sequencing. Chimeras eradicated without mercy. Our mandate also covers re-engineered extinct species, including dodos, Mastodons and Neanderthals.

SpecOps-14
Tactical Support Unit.
Here at SO-14 we have killed less civilians per successful mission than any other SpecOps division - a boast we can be justly proud of.

SpecOps-15

Drug Enforcement Agency.
Here we deal with illegal addictive substances from class 1 (Glucose-saturated carbonic acid) to class 13 (poor quality TV) to class 26: (salty snacks).

SpecOps-16
Classified: SpecOps division subject to secrecy certificate number 23/681

SpecOps-17
Werewolf and Vampire disposal operations.
SO-17 was the first privatised SpecOps division. See Yellow pages for rates card and reporting procedures.

SpecOps-18
Classified: SpecOps division subject to secrecy certificate number 23/681

SpecOps-19
Classified: SpecOps division subject to secrecy certificate number 23/681

SpecOps-20

Classified: SpecOps division subject to secrecy certificate number 23/681

SpecOps-21

Transportation Authority
Cars, vans, lorries and trains all fall within the remit of S0-21. Latest on road fund licence for bicycles and news of the 'enlarged cycle Network', 4-wheel drive 'school runs' ban to become law in October and free coffee for late night drivers to be introduced.

SpecOps-22
English Aviation Authority
Here we deal with aviation matters regarding airships, light aircraft and industry safeguards. The Accident Investigation Department reports online the latest airship crashes and publish data to reassure the public that Airship travel is the safest way to fly.

SpecOps-23
Food and Drugs administration
We are what we eat and at SO-23 there are not many problems that escape our all encompassing food licensing and reporting procedures.

SpecOps-24
Art Crime.
For a complete online list of all stolen art and whereabouts of plundered war booty and who thinks they have the better right to it, click HERE.

SpecOps-25
Industrial Safeguards.
Lax safety regulations or a fellow worker sucked into a large clanking festival of death? SO-25 are here to listen to your problems and ensure safety in the workplace.

SpecOps-26
Pasta police.
If a cannelloni doesn't live up to your expectations or you suspect that Quattro Frommagio you bought might be only Troissio Frommagio, you need to call us. Also: Late breaking news on mandatory pizza base thickness and a special on the new Linguini Standards Authority.

SpecOps-27
Literary detectives.
Feel your new original copy of Milton's 'Paradise Lost' is a bit weak in alliteration? It could be a bootleg copy. Contact us for all literary problems. Beware of forged Jonsonia and take heed when purchasing 'original' manuscripts. If the price is too good to be true, it probably is. Shakespeareana is now looked after by its own division, SO-29.

SpecOps-28
Inland Revenue Services.
Remember that holiday you wrote off as a business trip? We do. Our retrospective tax amnesty self assesment now extends to twenty years. Log on now and you won't end up like Barnaby Froop. Latest rates for domestic tax on children not in full or part time employment with a per capita income of less than £1000: Pocket money & cash gifts under £20: 6% Over £20: 2.1%. Tooth fairy: Molars: 3%, Incisors, 2.8%, no tax on Milk Canines. Free tax money box on request. Latest news on once-only 'good view from your upstairs window tax'

SpecOps-29
Shakespeare division (formerly department of dealing with exaggerated and outlandish claims)
Will Shakespeare now demands his own division. As Baconian agitator Conrad Margetts is released from a twenty year enloopment we need YOU to inform on any dangerous pro-Bacon activity. Heard the banned word 'Honorificabiltitudinitatibus' recently? We need to know.

SpecOps-30
Public Services Enforcement Authority
A torn bin liner could land you in a lot of trouble. We name and shame 25,000 recycling cross-binners and discuss the pros and cons of home electo- defragmetizers. Other electrical home appliances tested as poor household safety becomes a criminal offence. Still using a tritium home fusion power generator? We need them all decommissioned before possession and use becomes an offence in August 2001

SpecOps-31
Good Taste Re-education Authority
Stonecladding and crazy-paving amnesty extended to three years; red does not go with green. Black is only to be worn by affiliated members of the media fraternity and at funerals. Banned for 2001: Mug trees, antimacassars, floral-patterned carpets, pictures of crying clowns and posters of kittens in beer mugs.

SpecOps-32
Horticultural Enforcement Agency.
Japanese Knotweed must be destroyed - heavy fines for unlicensed owners. Water feature suitability inspections undertaken. New for 2001: a crack squad to prune unlicensed or outsize Leylandii. Special report on the outlawed Pampas Grass Vigilante Squad and Join in our National survey on the most acceptable plural form of Narcissus.

SpecOps-33
Entertaiments Facilitation Department
Here we are in charge of all books, films, theatre, television, standup, musicals and associated entertainment. Late-breaking news: Ban on balloon folding acts to be lifted; 'Anthrax!', the musical retelling of the germ warfare experiment on Gruinard is to go ahead. Hollywood to face charges of Filmic Historical Distortion over who actually obtained the enigma machine. 'The Mole' newspaper to be questioned over letting facts get in the way of a good story.

SpecOps-34
GlobalWebPolice
The only SpecOps division wholly funded by an outside agency. SO-34 is proud to work with law-abiding stalwarts Goliath to bring you a Web that is mostly free of rubbish and naked celebrities. We recommend everyone use the far superior GoliathBrowser with BusyBody(TM) tracker software so we can best look after your interests. Third party browsers and non-Goliath software may seem a good deal and offer privacy but have been scientifically proven to wipe hard disks and may render you infertile.

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Hi there, new to this sort of thing, but a long time Fforde reader.

One thing that did strike me is that on 21st 17:02, Amy describes how she "found a copy of Wind in the Willows sitting in the crime section"

Earlier that day, on the Jasper Fforde discussion boards, here

Quote:
Re: A Perfect Book? Or a monster of hideousity?
Posted by: Niebla (---.bethere.co.uk)
Date: June 21, 2007 08:51AM

Another thought I haved thinked about books be this:

If you were feeling cheeky much in a bookshop, where would you reshelve the story fiction ones in more relevant sections?

I think I would put Wind In The Willows in Crime because Mr Toad is naughtysome and I would put Wuthering Heights in the annoysome emotional/Romance/How to get a man and keep him section.

Where would you put other books? Where would you put Pride and Prejudice?


Two of the books mentioned, one been moved exactly as described.

Notably also Niebla seems to have only recently started posting, and then on a competition to win signed books.

Regarding the letters, apparently seems like theres an "Old Curiosity Shop" on Doughty Street. Might worth looking into

[edit - fixed the url link - kona]

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