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[SPEC] Coords and Wikipedia (was: what guys at HBO found)
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 		[SPEC] Coords and Wikipedia (was: what guys at HBO found)
Dundradal and Pedro the Penguin came to the conclusion in the chats that the new avatar for AR, entitled MB05032_09_25_07 not only hints at the release date but also coincides with a very useful line from MacBeth Act 5, line 32:

"Lady Macb. Yet there's a spot"

Now, using this hint, I wonder "what spot? Where?" and then the idea that AR's new avatar might be a map (of Stonehenge is the typical opinon in the IRC) and this lead to everyone trying the countdown timer's new stuck time as a set of coordinates: 1.12, 34.53. Typing these into google earth leads us to Mt. Elgon, a mountain with a crater as the top.




and now my find - i dont think anyone here has found it yet so the wikipedia pages might be legit

my theory with the timer is, it will never hit 0, it was designed to give us those figures, the figures the timer has stopped at was the point of the timer - i thaught that because of the weird structure for the timer, anyway

look at when i first suggested using google earth + checking if the numbers were co ordinates

<sharpsniper99> nah
[22:42] <New001> i dont think the heath line is important
[22:42] <sharpsniper99> its like a old field
[22:42] <AIDA> a heath is a milk chocolate english toffee bar
[22:42] <Grimlock> 001 008 025 038
[22:42] <Ibeechu> base 7 1 0120 3405 = base 10 591 7294
[22:42] <Grimlock> base 10 of the number if its in base 7
[22:42] <Dundradal> yeah and can't we not pinpoint the crop cirle to a real place?
[22:42] <Ibeechu> grim, that's wrong
[22:42] *** rumrummyrum has joined #args
[22:42] <Ibeechu> 009, not 008
[22:42] <Grimlock> they are separate numbers, not one big number
[22:42] <Ibeechu> what if it is though?
[22:42] <sharpsniper99> is it google earth co ordinates perhaps?
[22:43] <Dundradal> it's in england, on what is presumably an old field
[22:43] <Grimlock> well, theres a 9 25 in there
[22:43] <Ibeechu> 591 7294 and 001 009 025 038 are the two possibilities
[22:43] <Dundradal> try it see if it points to any place in england
[22:43] <sharpsniper99> i dont have google earth

and now look at when the wikipedia entrys were edited

(wikipedia for mountain that lines up with co ordinates http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... =139304584)

history of edits for wikipedia page - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?tit ... on=history

there are a lot of weird messages in those edits for the 19th including

EDIT: I cannot help you, It has consumed me. Look to the keeper. Quick, read and keep true for this message will be consumed by him.

A rip in slipspace has also caused certain unexplainable things from the past to appear here in the past few days. Tribesmen of the tribe once native here have started randomly reapearing and certain unidentified mechanicle objects have also appeared.

There has been reported sightings on the mountain described by native people. They report seeing "metal beasts" bearing a circular- like symbol. Some believed that the native people were refering to the nazi symbol, but however few reports say otherwise. Some quoted the beasts as "forerunners" manned by an entity. None of these reports have been confirmed.


the wiki can be edited by anyone but check for urself the times of the wiki edits in relation to the time we started using google earth, unless another forum beat us to it then i think the early wikis are legit

my theory is this, those figures were a clue to lead us to seeing they were co ordinates for the mountain, which when googles gives us the wikipedia page - i reckon the clues are on the wikipedia pages that were edited


tagged and renamed - please be more specific in your thread titles -thebruce

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:30 pm
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sharpsniper99
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 		grr i cant edit my previus post, i want to add a disclaimer that all the new edits could be made by anyone!

the old edits where made (in my knoledge) before anyone even found the page - so they could be relevant, ignore anything newer however

PostPosted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:41 pm
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bposeley
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 		I agree with the above poster
I would agree that the numbers might be a reference to coordinates somewhere. For additional support of this belief, consider the "halo glyph" listed on the evidence page of SOTA. It says the glyph was discovered in Tanzania. Tanzania is directly south of the mountain location pin-pointed by these potential coordinates. Proof, if not at least strong support, that we're on the right track.

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Treyfrd?
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sharpsniper99 wrote:
grr i cant edit my previus post, i want to add a disclaimer that all the new edits could be made by anyone!

the old edits where made (in my knoledge) before anyone even found the page - so they could be relevant, ignore anything newer however



Here's the first *possibly* relevant edit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mount_Elgon&diff=prev&oldid=139303396

second
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mount_Elgon&diff=next&oldid=139304584

third
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mount_Elgon&diff=prev&oldid=139309587

They were all made by "71.98.161.34" maybe get a whois on it?


EDIT:

Here's the whois on the IP. HIGHLY suspect. Virginia? Don't think so.


OrgName: Verizon Internet Services Inc.
OrgID: VRIS
Address: 1880 Campus Commons Dr
City: Reston
StateProv: VA
PostalCode: 20191
Country: US

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 		Almost certainly bogus. The dotted-quad traces to Verizon, not Microsoft or any in-game site.

-- Steve smelled a rat when he saw spelling mistakes in the purported AR edits.
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Reighvin
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 		Owned by Verizon Internet Services in Reston, VA

Registered in 2005

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Nola
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 		I think this is a Prank / Hoax:

First relevant Wikipedia edit: 17:07 central time
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mount_Elgon&oldid=139301657
edit by 74.99.181.135

First mention of coordinates in Unforums: 16:41 central time
http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19654&start=75
post ny Boonisha.



I may be wrong because I'm on European time and had to make some weird calculations to convert wikipedia and unforums times to my time first and then to central time. Perhaps someone else can verify.

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sharpsniper99 wrote:
grr i cant edit my previus post, i want to add a disclaimer that all the new edits could be made by anyone!

the old edits where made (in my knoledge) before anyone even found the page - so they could be relevant, ignore anything newer however


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HitsHerMark wrote:
sharpsniper99 wrote:
grr i cant edit my previus post, i want to add a disclaimer that all the new edits could be made by anyone!

the old edits where made (in my knoledge) before anyone even found the page - so they could be relevant, ignore anything newer however


Hey Sniper, you can't edit the post because you made it as a guest. Being able to edit your posts is a perk of registering.

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 		Maybe the other "entity" is the person who activated the halos the last time. He could still be alive because of the slipspace bubble revealed in the Ghosts of Onyx book. The spot of blood, or whatever, could be the guilt of wiping out all sentinent life. If AR is a monitor like 343 Guilty Spark then it is AR's nature to want to set off the halo's again. The person could feel guilty and want to stop it from happening again.

I could be completely off because i am a n00b to ARG's.

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Killswitch333
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 		AR did say he would help us, but not yet. Maybe someone IS planning on activating them again (could be AR, could be anybody) and AR wants to wait for the right moment to maybe set off some kind of EMP or jamming signal to cause the Halos to malfunction. It's kind of hard to see this now though because he has been taken over by a "stronger" entity so It's possible but we won't know for sure until later.

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