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EdifyYo
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 		Re: Cassiopeia?
BobBobson wrote:
AngriBuddhist wrote:
Just post by Mjonir at bungie.net.
http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=11429008


One thing that pops up at me, but it might be a coincidence. I read somewhere that if you were standing on alpha centauri, earth and the sun would be on the constellation of Cassiopeia.

Does anyone have a program that allows you to see the stars from different places? It's been a while since I used any.


Celestia (http://www.shatters.net/celestia/) is an excellent free-ware "space simulation that lets you explore our universe in three dimensions." I've used it for years, and it is used by many academics and scientists as a cheap-yet-powerful virtual planetarium.

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 		I got a star map of the same area and tried turning it, resizing it, flipping it and everything, but I cannot fit real stars over our star map.
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Mr. Munchy
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DM wrote:
I got a star map of the same area and tried turning it, resizing it, flipping it and everything, but I cannot fit real stars over our star map.


A star map of which area? I didn't think we had pinned down the stars that StarImage1 represent.

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J2G
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What makes you say that the images are 100% manufactured?


ahem... *rolls up sleeves*

OK, click here:

http://www.what-man.co.uk/StarImage1_comp.gif

This is an animated gif that shows:

Background = black #000000
Left image = a photo of Orions belt taken from earth
Center image = Starimage1
Right images = both taken by hubble

The gif cycles RGB, R, G then finally B colour channels, then briefly Black before looping.

Points to note:
1. notice how the back ground of the other three images are grainy ie. not "black #000000" and notice how the background of starimage1 IS black #000000
2. Notice that when the channels cycle, on starimage1, just the stars can be seen to contain any channel information, not the background (since it is void of colour) But the back grounds of the images of stars from earth, and the stars taken from hubble DO contain colour information.
3. Notice how much more the photos vary between channels, than the starimage1.
4. Density of stars. even in the photo taken from earth, there was a long enough exposure to capture orion, but it was short enough not to blur (streek) the stars, but yet even that caught the ambient glow of millions of fainter stars which are behind and around those forming orion. See the same with the hubble shots

For the ungraphically initiated, these 3 points direct you to only one conclusion. This image was created.

I welcome someone to do the same test with any of the latest high quality images from space, the gases and ambient light from the millions of stars means that the background of this type of photograph are never true black.

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 		That is what I said in IRC, J2G. *Nod*
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BobBobson
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 		This is kind of too weird to be a coincidence.

I was playing around with Stellarium, looking at the area under question, which happens to be around Polaris (Someone mentioned the symbols being related to the north pole).

I click on show constellation boundaries and look what showed up.


http://bayimg.com/baABnaabf

Edit: That's almost on the horizon as seen from somewhere in Africa tonight at local midnight, if I'm using this correctly. Polaris is the bright star on the tail of Ursa Minor.

EDIT: That image is a bit on the wide side, so linked and attached will have to do -xnbomb
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 		now that is weird
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 		They're just the boundaries between constellations. I don't think it means anything.

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Shiningfist wrote:
off topic:also why did the ark just become active if it is suppose to become active after the first one was blown up because it wasn't shut down?

I think the Ark only became active because the second Halo was activated and was then unexpectedly stopped, whereas the first Halo was never activated, only destroyed.

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LordIllidan wrote:
A friend of mine has pointed out to me that a trio of stars on the left side of the pic bear a striking resemblance to Orion's belt. I'm at school posting from my PSP right now, so I'll point it out when I get home


I see some people already made a connection to the French Sky, but... as promised: what is possibly Orion's Belt:
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The Alchemist
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Shiningfist wrote:
I think that the halo in Halo 2 is unable to fire it was shut down but not blown up so i think the star maps pointing to the last five halos
you can see the ending here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmD4v8LK_Ig&mode=related&search=

off topic:also why did the ark just become active if it is suppose to become active after the first one was blown up because it wasn't shut down?


For our purposes i think we should believe that all 7 halos are still functional, because Masterchief doesn't exist in our time yet, he hasn't blown up the first halo and hasnt shut down the second. This stuff is supposed to happen in our future. We need to think in terms of past present and future.

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Shiningfist
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Tomahawk214 wrote:
Cepheus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cepheus%2C_King_of_Aethiopia

So we now have a possible location, but we still don't know what exactly it means. Nothing particularly interesting in the wiki.

It says Cephus was of Aethiopia which is a mythological version of Ethiopia which in modern times borders Kenya
Aethiopia wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopia_%28Mythology%29
anything odd there?

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Mr. Munchy
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 		J2G, how about these two?

Granted, they don't have nearly as many stars as StarImage1 or the ones you put up, but the backgrounds on them test to crazy-low levels of other colours -- especially m57_ant.

I think the black background is more an issue of what format the pictures were saved in, how old they are, what kind of telescope etc. than whether the images were manufactured or not.

Regardless, I feel we shouldn't dismiss a 'natural' source for StarImage1 outright.
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 		Thoughts
Personally I think that although the image might not be created and might be real, I would say that it is too crucial for a real image to be used. The cell image we received is real, due to the fact that information could be added over the top. But this star map needed to convey information precisely. It would be much easier to make it, rather than try to find one that fit it's purpose. (Whatever that is)

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Mr. Munchy
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 		Re: Thoughts
invisible39 wrote:
Personally I think that although the image might not be created and might be real, I would say that it is too crucial for a real image to be used. The cell image we received is real, due to the fact that information could be added over the top. But this star map needed to convey information precisely. It would be much easier to make it, rather than try to find one that fit it's purpose. (Whatever that is)

Edit- Opening the image in Photoshop CS2 revealed some kind of guides on screen. Similar to the "Paths" visible on the bacteria image.

I have no idea if this is relevant but I don't remember it being mentioned.

Link to screenshot: http://img361.imageshack.us/img361/656/capturezf8.jpg


But what information has this star map actually conveyed? So far, only the glyph has shown us anything. Suppose that the glyph tells us the location of a Halo, or something else that's important. How does this information benefit us if the photo wasn't taken on earth? I still have my doubts that it was manufactured.

P.S. the guides have been mentioned earlier in this thread.

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