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MrBeanTroll
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I waded through all of the level entitled 343 Guilty Spark which is the level you meet the flood in and found a huge number of glyphs but first Patroculous on the IRC suggested I look at the back of an elite and this is what is on them:

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These are the glyphs I found in 343 Guilty Spark again click for larger image:

I don't know if this will lead anywhere at all but Glyph 7 looks the closest to AR's

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:43 am

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Nice work! You might also want to check here and here to see if there were any you missed, or if you found any extras.

EDIT: I think it's interesting that the in-game glyph most similar to the one seen in the ARG is used as a big, red warning marker on the outside of the Flood storage chamber...

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:46 am

Drew
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You're a liar, Bean! D:

Just kidding, awesome work man. I think we should start compiling everything into a big file. Know where you found the glyphs at?

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:49 am

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Nice work dude, that's awesome. Knowing Bungie, even the smallest things could have a Tie in.

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 12:53 am

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Re: [SPEC]Variations of the Glyph

MrBeanTroll wrote:

Grifter on IRC asked if anyone had looked at the Server 5 Open DOB entry page which made me go look at it and I noticed another variation of the glyph. This is what we have so far and I'm not sure if it means anything

Here is Adjutant Reflex's Glyph

Then we have the Star Image glyph

And finally the Server DOB check glyph (thanks Joshy for the lighter image) which if the country placement matters puts it in the ocean but I doubt that matters at all.[

It's possible that Africa might have been in that location 100,000 years ago when Halo was activated and humans appeared around Kenya. It definitely was around that location in the supercontinent Pangea hundreds of million years ago. The Forerunner could have built the Ark when they built the Halos and Onyx, which could have been when Africa was still in the center of Pangea.

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Re: [SPEC]Variations of the Glyph

rush wrote:

It's possible that Africa might have been in that location 100,000 years ago when Halo was activated and humans appeared around Kenya. It definitely was around that location in the supercontinent Pangea hundreds of million years ago. The Forerunner could have built the Ark when they built the Halos and Onyx, which could have been when Africa was still in the center of Pangea.

Nah... noticeable continental drift takes millions of years or more. I'm no geology expert, but I'm fairly sure that the only major difference between 100K years ago and today was the land bridge between Asia and N. America, and other ice-age-related stuff.

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:01 am

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Re: [SPEC]Variations of the Glyph

Jordan117 wrote:

rush wrote:

It's possible that Africa might have been in that location 100,000 years ago when Halo was activated and humans appeared around Kenya. It definitely was around that location in the supercontinent Pangea hundreds of million years ago. The Forerunner could have built the Ark when they built the Halos and Onyx, which could have been when Africa was still in the center of Pangea.

Nah... noticeable continental drift takes millions of years or more. I'm no geology expert, but I'm fairly sure that the only major difference between 100K years ago and today was the land bridge between Asia and N. America, and other ice-age-related stuff.

Just a side thought here. The halos were fired 100000 years ago. Rush, you have the right idea, but the cradle of life (the comic) most likely took place hundreds of thousands if not millions of years before then. That being the location of africa at the time when the Ark was being built (if indded that is what's being built in the comic) is entirely possible.

EDIT: I also want to point out that the fact that the halos were fired 100k years ago does not mean that their construction was completed 100k years ago. We don't yet know the full timeline for the construction of the halos or the Ark. Given that they were a last resort mechanism, I would think that they were completed a loooong time before they were fired.

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:07 am

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Treyfrd? wrote:

Just a side thought here. The halos were fired 100000 years ago. Rush, you have the right idea, but the cradle of life (the comic) most likely took place hundreds of thousands if not millions of years before then. That being the location of africa at the time when the Ark was being built (if indded that is what's being built in the comic) is entirely possible.

Right, but the comic states that it takes pace 100,000 years ago.

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Re: [SPEC]Variations of the Glyph

Jalathas wrote:

Treyfrd? wrote:

Just a side thought here. The halos were fired 100000 years ago. Rush, you have the right idea, but the cradle of life (the comic) most likely took place hundreds of thousands if not millions of years before then. That being the location of africa at the time when the Ark was being built (if indded that is what's being built in the comic) is entirely possible.

Right, but the comic states that it takes pace 100,000 years ago.

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:15 am

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Re: [SPEC]Variations of the Glyph

Treyfrd? wrote:

Jordan117 wrote:

rush wrote:

It's possible that Africa might have been in that location 100,000 years ago when Halo was activated and humans appeared around Kenya. It definitely was around that location in the supercontinent Pangea hundreds of million years ago. The Forerunner could have built the Ark when they built the Halos and Onyx, which could have been when Africa was still in the center of Pangea.

Nah... noticeable continental drift takes millions of years or more. I'm no geology expert, but I'm fairly sure that the only major difference between 100K years ago and today was the land bridge between Asia and N. America, and other ice-age-related stuff.

Just a side thought here. The halos were fired 100000 years ago. Rush, you have the right idea, but the cradle of life (the comic) most likely took place hundreds of thousands if not millions of years before then. That being the location of africa at the time when the Ark was being built (if indded that is what's being built in the comic) is entirely possible.

EDIT: I also want to point out that the fact that the halos were fired 100k years ago does not mean that their construction was completed 100k years ago. We don't yet know the full timeline for the construction of the halos or the Ark. Given that they were a last resort mechanism, I would think that they were completed a loooong time before they were fired.

It's also important to state that the Ark would have been built long before the comic took place, along with the Halos, since it is the central firing mechanism. The sentinels/monitors in the comic could have been maintaining it. It's also good to read mrbananas long-a$$ theory: http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=791609 . The comic supports his "nannybot" theory.

EDIT: Also, while we're theorizing about the glyph, it's interesting to note the two rings (on inside and one outside) that appear on all of the forerunner glyphs (except for the elite's back). They also appear in the formation of Stonehenge and Plato's description of Atlantis (a civilization speculated to have used alien technology):

You can also note the Halo rings, the ancient ring structures in the multiplayer level Sanctuary (implying some religious significance), the spherical-inverted-donut-like shape of Onyx and the fact that the Ark lies on the equator.

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:18 am

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Take into consideration that New Mombassa had to be rebuilt, for it to be destroyed, and the Ark found.

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:40 am

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Rustydidntlogin wrote:

Take into consideration that New Mombassa had to be rebuilt, for it to be destroyed, and the Ark found.

New Mombasa was not built on the ashes of Old Mombasa, if that's what you're getting at. New Mombasa is just the 26th-century version of the city that sprang up after the space elevator was built. Old Mombasa still exists -- it's the slummy area you fight in before you cross the bridge. Well, not exactly slummy, but 21st-century office buildings certainly look shabby compared with skyscrapers from the future...

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 1:53 am

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Something in the comics.

How about this?

who said the sentinels were building the Ark in the comic? They may have been burying it instead, after the Halo firing, to cover up their tracks for the future, or to prevent future surviving forerunners from finding them, the ones that travelled beyond the reach of the Halos.

The Gods reference should be directed to the worker sentinels, as a direct line, since in the comic we only see them working, not flood, forerunner nor even monitor.

The Ark is the ark for the flood, who were being overrun (finally) by the forerunners? Reverse the roles and see where that leads - the Flood were everywhere as a disease/parasite/something, and the Foreunners were their first hosts and was almost overrun. so what happens is that the forerunners become resistant to the Flood and start to take back their identity. The flood minds (possibly gravemind-types derived from the advanced forerunners) build the Halos to not contain the flood but to further evolve themselves to regain their hold on the forerunners (they are able to repair ships and such, so technology development is possible).

The Ark is a place for the flood to protect themselves because the forerunners were gaining the upperhand (they're the attackers), and thus why they decided to kill their "food" instead of themselves. the pyrrhic reference is to the flood stuck outside the Ark and the Halo labs, which explains why they survived, hopefully to infect future aliens since their bid to take over the forerunners failed.

That comic is meant to show that the African is recording events because the Ark was being hidden from view and proof of its existence would be gone very soon, so recording it would help him remember.

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 11:26 am

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If we are slinging around biblical terms, in reference to what they may mean in game.

Ark. Could be referred to as Noah's ark, OR the Ark of the covenant. We all know what Noah's ark is. but lets explore what the Ark of the Covenant could be.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ark_of_the_Covenant

This explains that the " Ark" in a biblical sense is gods will. also referred to as god's wrath or judgment. it can also be interpreted as a weapon on a biblical scale

Halos. A halo is an identifier for angels. Angels have Halos. through out history in art and culture, if something was drawn with a halo. it was classified as Divine, a messanger of god so to speak.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_%28angel%29

That was just a brief interpritation of what i think the terms halo, and ark mean in the story.
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I beleive Onyx is Shield world. and more then likely not the only one. Guarded by Trillons of contruct droids to fend off the Flood if any one has escaped to the Dyson Sphere. The Halos, are the facilitators of Gods judgement. They bare his wrath. The Ark, is the all. The thing that can release Gods wrath on a galactic scale. In the readings i linked above it discussed how the ark of the covenant is where the 10 commandments and other works directly relating to what god had dictated to his prophets / disciples.

If my understanding is correct, and this is just a theory.

activate the Ark - Ativates all the Halos - Locks down Sheild world - good game galaxy. no more sentient life.

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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:02 pm

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in all practicallity, i believe the ark is immune to the halos as a means to same some life similiar to noah's ark

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