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pinkfreud · Boot Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 55 Location: Asheville, NC

what's your opinion

**Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:28 pm

youthpastor247 · Decorated Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 235

I'm starting to think that Tom D Cesear is a trap. I have a theory that Tom is just the CM. CM told us to ignore Tom, and now, through Tom's youtube, we're told to contact him. Now there's the whole betrayal issue.

Maybe Tom is just a set up to see who betrays CM's trust by following after Tom.

**Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:40 pm

pinkfreud · Boot Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 55 Location: Asheville, NC

I agree. come on over to chat if you have a few

**Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:44 pm

youthpastor247 · Decorated Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 235

I've been trying to get in, but it won't load for me unfortunately.

**Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:47 pm

pinkfreud · Boot Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 55 Location: Asheville, NC

had that same problem. I had to download mIRC and set it up to get in. Pain in the neck.

**Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2007 3:49 pm

Das Llama · Unfettered Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 362

**Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:01 pm

pinkfreud · Boot Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 55 Location: Asheville, NC

I think that talking to tom is a good idea, however, the CM specifically said not to and he said to follow his rules or there would be consequences. We need people on both sides of the equation to get info from all directions. The only thing is, if you talk to tom, then talking to the CM like nothing is happening could be a mistake. I think if you choose one or the other, then you need to stick with it and combine our info here like always.

My 2 cents,
Jason

**Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:17 pm

Das Llama · Unfettered Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 362

[quote="jabroni"]From me:

**Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:33 pm

Wabonan · Entrenched Joined: 24 Sep 2006 Posts: 1185

That doesn't sound good Das.... You reckon we should warn TDC??

**Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:41 pm

pinkfreud · Boot Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 55 Location: Asheville, NC

email to CM

Wabonan · Entrenched Joined: 24 Sep 2006 Posts: 1185

not yet and I sent mail through youtube , the FET forums and gmail.... Hopefully we will get a responce soon.
EDIT
yall thinking we are going to get a vid tonight or tomorrow??/?

**Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2007 4:59 pm

pinkfreud · Boot Joined: 06 Apr 2007 Posts: 55 Location: Asheville, NC

it's obvious that I want a new vid, but I feel that it should be this weekend. Hopefully you will here something soon and so will I.

Jason

**Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:04 pm

licoricesniper · Unfettered Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 560

**Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:07 pm

my2juneboys · Boot Joined: 11 Jun 2007 Posts: 48

Hi All. Let me preface this post by apologizing if I am replying in the wrong section...I am SO new at these forums. The topic here seems to fit with my reply, so I'll go ahead and just spit it out.

My father is a retired NYC Homicide Detective and the majority of our dinner conversations revolved around crime, clues, deductions and profiling.

Everything you are saying seems exactly right to me. I believe we need to delve deeper into who TDC is. He's our only tangible link to the CM...whether he is one of the same, is yet to be discovered.

I think a major clue is the image of the Family Tree like picture:

On a different forum (FET) Michael explains his family dynamics. He states both of his parents are deceased. Could they be depicted as the square and circle crossed out? I truly believe the CM might be a family member...done wrong.

In one of CM's emails he refers to Matthew 10:36 "A man's enemies will be the members of his own household". Hmmmm....

Also, Michael has a brother, Andrew, who apparently does all the webdesign, etc. He became quite defensive when someone asked questions about Andrew. Another Hmmmm....

Did anyone notice the very dim, transparent, almost unnoticeable image a a young man's face towards the very end of the last video? It wasn't mixed in with the other images of past victims, it was deliberately separated and was repeated 3 or 4 times during the time the CM was digging.

This isn't Eric, is it??

Another 2 points I can't get out of my head is...where is Sue Hart? Do any of you know for sure she is actually dead?

And...the Adam and Eve reference. I can't get past this...it has to fit somewhere.

Oh...and let us not forget a couple of key quotes from the CM:

"All Actions Have Consequences...Even Yours" (Here he displays a bloody knife)
"It involves love, death and betrayal" I don't think the CM is in love with Sue Hart. Apparently, he's been killing for years. But he's not selective. He murders both men and women. Why?

Yikes! This is much longer than I expected it to be. Please forgive my babbling. I just wanted to see if these points were already discussed and to get some enlightenment from all of you Smile

Always,
Cat

**Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:11 pm

Wabonan · Entrenched Joined: 24 Sep 2006 Posts: 1185

Well we all have our own pet theories...lol I said pet...lol... but I think TDC is Sue hart... I think the CM is useing Eric to keep her with him(I think she's his wife). I think the reason Eric hasn't escaped is because hes afraid the CM will kill Sue.... LOL though the whole theory only works if Eric loves Sue and Sue loves Eric...lol

**Posted:** Sat Jun 23, 2007 6:30 pm