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Sarah B

Generics are characters-in-training. They may have a particular role in mind, especially later in their development, but early on they are individuals, but kind of individuals of a mass-produced type. It's a bit of an odd concept...

So june probably has aspirations of a character, which could be Havisham, or Jane, or indeed anyone at all. I'm not sure that we could know...

*is a bit confused herself*

EDIT: I've just re-checked the draft from june's blog. There was definitely more to the story than that before. I remember Pinocchio and the speed reader and some sort of cross dimensional probe from the Outland in the corner. And a stunt cricket. And they saw the engine of the story in a basement, and went to Thursday's office, where she said she was the LBCOS (last bastion of common sense) and... yeah. There were 49 pages, I remember, and now there are about 26.

EDIT 2: OMG. 49 pages. *hits self on head* Don't suppose anyone saved the draft, did they? *hopes*

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Etta · Boot Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 25

This is a tad bit complicated, so bear with me.

In the letter from the offices of Text Grand Central scanned onto June's blog, it says that the character causing havoc is from one of Jasper's unpublished juvenilia's (i.e. early works).

When I went to Jasper's book reading in Ilkley last year, he said that he wrote the Nursery Crime books (or at least The Big Over Easy) before he got started on the Thursday Next series.

When Thursday goes to hide out in the Well of Lost Plots, she takes part in the character exchange program and house-swaps with the lead character from The Big Over Easy (at that point still unpublished), Detective Sergeant Mary Mary.

Mary Mary lives on a boat (of sorts) "on the banks of a reservoir somewhere in the Home Counties". Captain Nemo lives two boats down on the Nautilus (thus our connection to 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea).

I've tried entering:

Short Sunderland (the name of Mary Mary's boat)
Reading (where the Big Over Easy Takes Place)

No luck yet though...

**Posted:** Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:41 pm

cows

The draft is here...

linky

Is that the one you meant ??

**Posted:** Tue Jul 03, 2007 4:50 pm

Sarah B

Nope, not what I meant. What is linked to now is a word document 26 pages long. What was there before was a pdf file, 49 pages long. However, I found my other laptop had saved the previous version of the file, so here it is linked from my geocities site:
www.geocities.com/carter74656/tn5_teaseruk.pdf

There's nothing highly useful on page 49 though, sadly, apart from a mention of a book called Summer Lightning. Tried that though, as well as the castle at which it's set, and no joy. Feel free to play around with permutations though. Smile

**Posted:** Tue Jul 03, 2007 5:25 pm

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burpwind · Greenhorn Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 7 Location: Japan

Hi all I have been watching this game with interest. May I come in?

I was thinking about the upgrade alerts on page 332 to 333

**Posted:** Tue Jul 03, 2007 7:58 pm

chanticleer · Boot Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 12

Hi all, first time posting (and contribuing to an ARG, despite writing a paper about them last year!). I entered this rabbit hole via June's blog after emailing her regarding the final question in the quiz, and have been digging to find information since.

You've all discovered some great information, but there's a number of things that I think haven't been addressed here yet, which I'd like to highlight:

1) In her video annoucement via Amy, Havisham says not to communciate with Ffforde via handheld communication device (or somesuch). I'm pretty certain that hidden somewhere is a mobile number, though I've had no luck at all hunting it down.

2) All Ffforde's and Niebla's communications seem to end with a prefix to the name - YG. What does this mean? I wondered if it was a relative of Yorrick Kaine from books two and three, but I don't think it's likely now.

3) All this is leading up to a big event in Swindon at one o'clock this Saturday (which I intend to attend). Coincidentally, Jasper has just updated his website with this, an article about roads in Swindon being given names from his works. Hmm...

I can't offer anything else myself yet, though I'm still digging. I'm 100% certain that the footnotes are irrelevant - that is a genuine printing error with the first batch of books and seems unrelated to Ffforde's activities.

**Posted:** Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:11 pm

cows

**Posted:** Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:16 pm

chanticleer · Boot Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 12

**Posted:** Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:23 pm

chanticleer · Boot Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 12

Reply already!

**Posted:** Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:37 pm

cows

I sent an email to June aswell, seems like she replied to you first though...

Either way, my response...

**Posted:** Tue Jul 03, 2007 8:59 pm

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**Posted:** Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:17 am

burpwind · Greenhorn Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 7 Location: Japan

Who is Lizzy?

Sorry I made an error in my rushed posting before.

In the letter from Jasper Fforde in the Haversham (junehaversham.wordpress.com) blog there is reference to bookcam (http://www.jasperfforde.com/bookcam.html). You have discussed it before but what was the anaomoly in the Alice in Wonderland text.

The Lizzy reference made me think of Elizabeth Bennet from Pride and Prejudice. She is commonly referenced as Lizzy. Elizabeth lived in both Longbourn in Hertfordshire and finally in Pemberley in Derbyshire.

I tried all 4 locations to replace the wonderland of the www.jasperfforde.com/wonderland.htm but with no success.

However I am reminded that this is on the Haversham (not the right Havisham) blog and may be a red herring.

What do you all think?

Cheers
Scott

edit Just one last thing but going over the Amy Greenford blog and found the post about the footnotes (http://amygreenford.blogspot.com/2007_07_01_archive.html) . At the end of the article she starts to use a high score ¹ for things like didn't. For example didn ¹ t. There are 4 1's by my count. I will chase this up.

**Posted:** Wed Jul 04, 2007 2:45 am

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**Posted:** Wed Jul 04, 2007 4:14 am

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Trout if necessary, but Fffordian email with the location.

**Posted:** Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:02 am

Etta · Boot Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 25

Does anyone know what Amy's plan is? June sent me an email that said to ask Amy about her plan. I've done so, but haven't heard back yet....

EDIT: I just did a bit of reading about Pepys on Wikipedia. Two things:

1) In the footnote, could Thursday been book jumping to Pepys' diary? He was a nautical man after all. (Has anyone bought the book yet? I ordered one from Whitby today so it might be here tomorrow...)

2) St Olave's church where Amy met Miss Havisham is also where Pepys erected a monument to his dead wife. Coincidence???

**Posted:** Wed Jul 04, 2007 10:09 am