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 		I had another go at Wokingham library, but no luck. I even accosted a very pleasant young chap who had thought he was in for a quiet dull afternoon at work, and he couldn't find anything either. He didn't seem to have the faintest idea what I was on about, but very kindly helped me double check some of the shelves. So thanks Ben, and I hope you find it eventually! Laughing
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Canzonett
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 		HA! According to Amy's latest report, Havisham managed to get hold of the cat!!! Twisted Evil Here's what he said:
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(1) This minor character smells of roses. And paint. And fear. The cat says he argues and complains a lot.

(2) The cat says that this girl is quite young. He also says she is stupid, but then he says that about most humans. She weeps a lot and her hair smells of apple blossom. He thinks she has been left by someone, but since he also leaves all the females he's ever known he can't see what she's making such a fuss about. Cats don't go in for pictures much, but when Miss Havisham bribed him with my salmon steak, he said if he had to portray her it would be with a face as white as jasmine.

(3) The cat hates this minor character so much he won't speak of him. Except to say rather smugly that he made him whine, which apparently only a man who kicked him used to be able to do.

(4) The cat doesn't like this woman. She smells of disinfectant, but also of sickness. She is not a sympathetic person, he thinks – unlikely to give a hard-working cat any milk. This was clearly a hint and Miss H handed over some milk. Almost monstrous, he said as he cleaned his whiskers (at least Miss H said that's what he said)

(5) The cat likes this woman. Others he thinks are rather prejudiced against her, but he can't think why – there are lots of parties in her house which means he gets to eat scraps in the kitchen – although he doesn't like the soldiers who turn up there.

(6) The cat isn't interested in this young man. Everything in that particular book exhausts the cat. He's not much of a one for talking (I would never have guessed) and he says the whole scene makes him feverish. There's lots of weeping and rushing about. The young man's father, he says, may be an ensign, but he has never worked out what happens because a) he's not interested and b) everyone digresses so much.


(1) Alice - one of the cards painting the rose-tree, probably Two or Seven
(2) Dorian Gray - Hetty
(3) Wuthering Heights - Hindley Earnshaw? [suggested by: cows]
(4) Frankenstein ("almost monstrous") - The nurse
(5) Pride and Prejudice - maybe Harriet Forster, the colonel's wife?
(6) Tristram Shandy - Billy Le Fever [solved by: cows]

Are we to assume then that the cat indeed is the "black tom" from "Three Men in a Boat"???

And here's the rest of our list again:

The Raven - Pauline Dubourg, the laundress from The Murders in the Rue Morgue
Wind in the Willows - Little Portly, the otter
Gulliver's Travels - Alexander the Great
Great Expectations - Georgiana, Mr Pocket's cousin
The Man Who Was Thursday - The Innkeeper

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 		Tristram Shandy hint refers to Billy Le Fever...

Still working on the rest - updated as found...

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(4) Frankenstein ("almost monstrous") - The nurse?


There was a nurse in Frankenstein ??

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 		There was indeed!

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"This sound disturbed an old woman who was sleeping in a chair beside me. She was a hired nurse, the wife of one of the turnkeys, and her countenance expressed all those bad qualities which often characterize that class. The lines of her face were hard and rude, like that of persons accustomed to see without sympathizing in sights of misery. Her tone expressed her entire indifference."


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 		I think the Wuthering Heights hint references Hindley Earnshaw. However I'm not sure how much of a role he plays in the book...

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Canzonett
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 		Is there a particular passage you have in mind?

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 		He is the only male character who shows a violent side to another male...

Young Heathcliffe was the brunt of his abuse, and I assumed that he was a bit too large a role to be a minor character. The character profile was a bit vague - and seeing as he was the only one who showed violent tendencies, maybe he was abused earlier on in the book or at some stage...

Bit of a guess really to be honest...

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 		Just a quick thought; June says in her new blog that Jasper mentioned her in the 'pictures' at the back of First Among Sequels. So, maybe we should check them for hints about the location of the place Ffforde was kept? They weren't in the proof, you see...

*calls out for someone with the book*
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 		Another thing to wonder about, especially when one cannot participate in the bookhunt nor attend the Anti-Ffforde event in Swindon: Are there any clues we might have overlooked hidden in the Classic Book Quiz? According to my hastily scribbled notes, the questions referred to the following texts ( Title =already mentioned in the bookhunt):

Emily Bronte, Wuthering Heights
George Orwell, Animal Farm
Arthur Conan Doyle, [The Speckled Band? Cannot read my own handwriting]
Mary Shelley, Frankenstein
Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
Jane Austen, Emma
Fjodor Dostoevsky, Crime and Punishment
Edgar Allan Poe, The Purloined Letter
Francis Scott Fitzgerald, The Great Gatsby
M. R. James, Casting the Runes
Thomas Malory, Le Morte d'Arthur
Carlo Collodi, The Adventures of Pinocchio
Daniel Defoe, The Fortunes and Misfortunes of the Famous Moll Flanders
P. G. Wodehouse, [Blandings Castle books]
William Shakespeare, Macbeth
Jerome K. Jerome, Three Men in a Boat
Joseph Conrad, The Secret Agent
Dante Alighieri, The Divine Comedy
G. K. Chesterton, The Man Who Was Thursday

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 		I've been in 5 different branches of WH Smiths at various railway stations this morning and none of them have First Among Sequels. Typical.
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 		Until the official publication date on the 7th, I think that the only stores that are going to have First Among Sequals are the ones that also have Dupine Classics.

My copy got delivered this morning, but we missed the post man. DARN! Hopefully we'll be able to go collect it this evening...

EDIT: Just a quick thought re the other books on the Classic Quiz. In the footnote about book jumping (no. Cool, Robinson Crusoe is also mentioned. Could she perhaps be jumping to Moll Flanders??? (Don't know why she'd want to though...)

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 		Just been to Idle Hour to try and get a copy of the book, but they aren't being delivered there until tomorrow. Darn.

For all of you who are going to Swindon tomorrow, I hope you have a good day. I can't make it, but will be checking up on how it all went.

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 		Just an aside - I just remembered the question in the quiz about all the books in which the authors had written themselves in as characters. It seems this was a pointer to what was going to happen, but as ever, it is only obvious in hindsight. The letter scanned in on June's blog from the real Jasper Fforde notes that only more experienced writers should write themselves into books.

I'm going overseas tonight, so will miss the culmination of this... but if someone was bored and had time, are there any questions left in the quiz that haven't been at all relevant yet? There might still be something left to work out that will only surface after the fact.

Sorry this isn't actually helpful - just a fleeting final thought before I jump on the plane. Have fun tomorrow everyone. I'm so jealous.

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 		According to June's blog, the general release date was supposed to be yesterday.
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 		The First Among Sequels book includes June in the thanks:
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Thanks to June Haversham for support beyond the call of fiction


Note the capital letters...she must have graduated from being a generic.

As for the pictures...

One:
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Briton! Your country needs you to do dumb things


No mention of June

Two:
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Expensive Cheese?...Then you need a cheese tasting holiday in the Socialist Republic of Wales


No june mentioned.

Three:
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Get into the Classics...aboard the Austen Rover! Bronte Trollope Austen Thackeray Dickens Goliath proudly presents the very latest in advanced tourist technology. Visit all your favourite books from the comfort and safety of our transfictional tour bus and see the classics as you've never seen them before. Tours begin March 2003... CANCELLED UNTIL FURTHER NOTICE


Ok, that's a possibility -any chance that the Goliath Austen Rover could have been the way a character could get out of their book?

Total stab in the dark...haven't read the book yet. Am saving that for the plane I'm boarding shortly...

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