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Napkin Numbers

Chronus_Valtiel

Wow, that's amazing. I'm gonna see what I can dig up at phonespell.

Update: I unfortunately found nothing with the numbers "85000117236" or "85000117236" but when I ran a phonespell with the number "485000117236" It came up with this result:

**Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 7:33 pm

Mason · Veteran Joined: 16 Jun 2007 Posts: 112

I read "485860217236"
Just FYI, no country has the code +85 followed by an 8. Hong Kong is 0852 and Macao is 0853. I'd take that as a strong indication that it's a 4.

FAO Original Poster: could that number be a phone number in the country you found it?

**Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:50 pm

ana · Boot Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 10

The country where we found it is Portugal and it has an extra digit...
our phone numbers only have 9 digits, plus 3 for country code. This one has 11.

**Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:03 pm

belzek · Boot Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 10

damn, nice photoshop enhancement!

this makes me believe even more that this isnt a phone number and that it contains letters, at least i think some of those marks look like letters like an O and a Z

**Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 10:21 pm

rose · ...and then Magic happens Joined: 26 Nov 2003 Posts: 4117

If the kidnap victim left this number...did he cross out the first part?

How does that make sense? Why would a victim leave a number that is partially crossed out?

**Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:00 pm

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Chronus_Valtiel

I assumed the kidnapper did it, but now that I think of it, he/she could've just taken the napkin....
Perhaps the number had little to do with the kidnapping itself, but a lot to do with the victim. But why would he deliberately smudge the first few digits?
On second thought, the napkin was found in a bar, right? Maybe his drink was on top of it and the condensation smudged the message or the drink spilled on it.
EDIT: That would also explain the stain on the napkin.
2ND EDIT: Another thought: maybe there's more to this napkin than just the numbers....

**Posted:** Sat Jul 07, 2007 11:53 pm

Palm

Another enhancement

Chronus_Valtiel

So Somebody wrote one number and someone else scratched it out and wrote another... But... what use could that be?
Is one set of numbers/letters a lie?

**Posted:** Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:53 am

ana · Boot Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 10

some context: the victim received or made a phone call, wrote on the napkin and left the bar and probably he passed the number to his cell phone and left his glass on top of the napkin

**Posted:** Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:24 am

Chronus_Valtiel

Now THAT makes sense.

Oh, and looking back at Palm's enhancements, it could be concluded that the whole number would probably, just probably be either, "485990117Z36" or "485990117236".

I tried phonespelling it but I got nothing....

**Posted:** Sun Jul 08, 2007 2:56 pm

morelaak

is the image you gave us the original? or do you actually HAVE the napkin? and if the image is all you have been given to go on, has anyone tried to desteg it?

just a thought... gotta cover all the bases.

**Posted:** Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:52 pm

Chronus_Valtiel

Yes, and if there's a site with the napkin, could you link us please?

**Posted:** Sun Jul 08, 2007 3:58 pm

belzek · Boot Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 10

**Posted:** Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:07 pm

Chronus_Valtiel

Well, I guess we have to take this one step at a time.
What could this be other than a phone number?
It can't really be anything really complicated, or they would've given us a little bit more to go by (I hope).
If it is a phone number we'll have to find out which country has one with that many numbers.
If it's not... well... we'd have to cross that bridge when we get there....

**Posted:** Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:32 pm