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[META][TRAILHEAD] 1-18-08: Possible new arg/puzzle?
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Skirkster
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 		Website connection
connection between 01-18-08 and ethanhaaswasright
USA Today confirmed that www.ethanhaaswasright.com is part of the promotion for Cloverfield today: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2007-07-08-abrams-trailer_N.htm?csp=34

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CHaese
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 		that doesn't confirm anything.

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u4ik
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 		Re: Website connection
connection between 01-18-08 and ethanhaaswasright
Skirkster wrote:
USA Today confirmed that www.ethanhaaswasright.com is part of the promotion for Cloverfield today: http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/news/2007-07-08-abrams-trailer_N.htm?csp=34


Awesome. So, it begins. Has anyone put together a reference page yet? To detail the events up until now?

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catherwood
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 		Well, kinda sorta. USA Today confirmed that 1-18-08 is Cloverfield -- then they proceed to reprint someone else's THEORY about the plot of the movie: "Harry Knowles, the online king of movie previews at AintItCool.com, says... his theory, based on..."

It could still be true. I just wish Paramount would make a direct statement to that effect.

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u4ik
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 		You're right.
catherwood wrote:
Well, kinda sorta. USA Today confirmed that 1-18-08 is Cloverfield -- then they proceed to reprint someone else's theory: "Harry Knowles, the online king of movie previews at AintItCool.com, says... "

It could still be true. I just wish Paramount would make a direct statement to that effect.


I agree. For the moment though, I'm going to treat them as connected. I'm not sure it'll get me very far though, considering the ticking pictures are still driving me crazy.

Edit: I'm too anal when I type.

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tinag222
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 		so much for critical thinking
I guess that's why this is the rumors section - and this is one more prime example of how the Ethan Haas stuff got connected to 1-18 without a shred of proof and people just run off the road with it, some just "want" it to be so, so they choke it down.....like I said elsewhere, if that's how some of you guys solve real world problems, please don't sit on any juries where somebody's future is on the line. I'd hate to think you'd just make a decision ignoring evidence or lack thereof and go with it just cause you "want" it to be true.

Shocked


That being said, look a little closer, as Catherwood pointed out. Nothing was confirmed but already there is "yay it's been confirmed!" - ten bucks says the next half dozen pages will be filled by the same Ethan Haas people now asserting it's signed and sealed done deal confirmed....and nobody will bother looking further for evidence.


Here is what was said. And the one who posted this MISLEADS you with USA "confirmed" this connection. Nowhere in the article does the word "confirm" appear. And no, they did not confirm it. At best they just "mentioned" it....again in a context of possibly related.

Read the article

His theory,


based on puzzle websites

AS OPPOSED TO ANY ACTUAL SOLID SOURCE OF RELIABLE INFORMATION

Paramount set up as clues, such as

the fake prophet page EthanHaasWasRight.com, is that the film will involve the late H.P. Lovecraft's tales of monstrous ancient gods wreaking havoc on Earth.

Other online speculators theorize

the film is the long-promised Voltron movie (which would explain its placement at the beginning of the Transformers film) about ancient robotic lions that form the titular giant to defend Earth from invasion.

And my favorite phrasing that actually describes the article's point:

More stabs in the dark

are that it's a new Godzilla film, a big-screen takeoff on Abrams' Lost TV series or an entirely original project.

And in spite of this part here:

All that Paramount sources will say is that they can't say anything.

too many will run off the road on this as if it's been announced by Paramount themselves in a live news conference "confirming" it, continue tying EH to this, and then just believing it because you want to?

Why not not believe it until it's confirmed there's an actual in game link between both? Isn't that how you usually play?

If not here ya go:

I have been led to believe that this site may be related. How? Let's just say I know people.


http://www.kingkongmovie.com/

I mean, it's got a giant roaring animal, it ends up in NY, it causes havoc on the city streets, shit blows up, there's people running thru the streets, the military shows up, ancient tribes prophecied that a white man would come and release the great monkey demon and take it away, and oh hey, they did!


And!!! what else proves it was....it has a cool flash site online!

If you're not worried about evidence and how specifically these link together despite the obvious similarities, then why not just start confirming it's really a giant KK remake.Maybe he's back and he's pissed!

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bjh25
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 		I agree completely with tinag on this one. USA Today is hardly a paragon of journalistic integrity, but this article is almost entirely speculation culled from the Internet, and doesn't really do that much to hide it.

Not to imply there may not eventually be a connection between 1-18 and EHWR, but this article doesn't offer anything new and certainly doesn't prove any connection exists.

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Lola
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 		Isn't the real fun in finding the in game connection? Following the "in game" story wherever it leads?

I'm still looking at those pictures.....

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TallulahBelle
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tinag222 wrote:
Speaking of which....I saw this earlier tonight....

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000881/

Get a load of what Michael Bay has in store for us...namely the top one but the top 4 just reek guilt by association Very Happy


Not to mention the rather remarkable link-addy.. Wink

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u4ik
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 		Pictures.
Lola wrote:
Isn't the real fun in finding the in game connection? Following the "in game" story wherever it leads?

I'm still looking at those pictures.....


The pictures are bothering me SO badly. I watched "The Bourne Supremacy" last night and would turn my head to the right every so often just to check out the pics again. Now, here I sit at work with them displayed on my mac. In between jobs, I glance over from time to time.

We know they "tick". That's a given. They appear randomly if you reload, they can be turned any direction, etc.

I'm not buying the "hidden number" deal in the banner, but I do think the "6" (or 9?) on the shirt in the party picture may be something, along with that little "2" in the E. I also noticed someone pointing out a number "3" in the image of the two women. Could someone please elaborate on that? I just don't see it.

I've just read a rumor that the people in the picture may be holding Rob back. I really don't see it, nor do I think it would make much sense. I mean, they end up on the roof shortly afterwards and seem fine until the huge explosion.

I also read that people think the photos are being manipulated to look just a tiny bit different as time progresses. Lighting seems different, things in the pic seem different and a few people are saying they look "fuzzy", unlike before. Has anyone noticed anything like that?

I really hope we've been missing something more than nothing. It's already frustrating enough not knowing if we're actually dealing with an ARG. I jumped the gun on that "confimation" earlier, just because I'm anxious about this entire thing.

Tinag: I'll make sure it doesn't happen again. I just have some things to get used to with this entire concept. I've been reading up, trust me. Smile

Edit: Spelling.

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tinag222
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 		n/p
Ahhh I just realized what you meant by the link addy. Heh. I went back to the imdb page looking for an email link and it dawned on me, the url numbers....

u4ik - I wasn't meaning to sound like I'm getting on anybody, just got exasperated that the rumors are being given too much weight without evidence.

I'm with you on the pictures. This is my 3rd night literally falling asleep in the chair at the computer, having 1-18 open and checking it every hour to see if it's updated, or, if maybe if something happens after a longer period of time than the average attention span. I wondered that based on the timing of the pics rotating. It's not per second, it's longer...so I wondered maybe if you just pot watch awhile longer something might show up or go away, flash, etc.

To clarify one good time - on the issue of one chick or two in the first picture - I officially remind you guys I never said it *was* one face, I was saying that I got to looking at it and both halves were so similar to me that I decided to switch them around to see how that looked. And it did look like it could be one face. I never ran with it, however the rumor train shot out the gate and now this very question has made the rounds all over with it being presented as if this was already decided it's one face and people debunk it. Shocked

Same for the creepy demon thing in the same original post. I never said it was, I said it looks like there's something and I can see creepy demon thing....but if ya go back to page one, I also wrapped it up with asking *or have I had entirely too much coffee* = meaning, is there something here or am I seeing things?

Finally, I am not suggesting people blow off playing Ethan games. Just don't be so quick to embrace a tie in to 1-18 without proof. I'm not going to be jaded or mad or "wrong" if down the road a legit bridge happens and they were related all along. I liked the puzzle and some of the story but my main interest is still 1-18 and so far, at no point would I naturally end up at any EH site whatsoever by following the trailer to the site to the whois to the 2 photos...and neither would anyone else. The ONLY reason people are connecting them is because they have read about BOTH as possibly related from articles mentioning them.

Also note that there haven't been any more "ever so conveniently timed" 1-18 sites to pop up and be handed over arbitrarily, but every day somebody shows up with a variant for an EH related site. On the other forum someone said the whois for one of those sites had changed and added to it was Pike Albert. The whois for S7/1-18 has not changed to accomodate our speculation. If it changed on one of the EH related sites, that smells like gamejacking to me...and whoever is behind EH sites are milking thier 15 minutes of fame they wouldn't have otherwise gotten, and are *after the fact* now trying to manufacture a subtle tie in to 1-18 to keep the momentum going.

What happens down the road if/when it's cleared up it was never related, and the ones behind it never stepped up and set it straight, just hung back and duped people by riding the tails of 1-18 hype.

Just remember, we never naturally uncovered anything about Ethan Haas in a natural progression from the 1-18 site or trailer. The whole EH thing was handed to us arbitrarily and without any in game link.

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Lola
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 		Someone posted this comment on the Hollywood-Elsewhere blog (http://hollywood-elsewhere.com/archives/2007/07/abrams_on_clove.php).

"A friend told me tonight that an ad agency in Austin is handling a viral marketing campaign for this movie, that there's at least three or four web sites out there for it and a number of youtube videos also. He thinks the 1.18.08 is a trick of some kind, not a date, possibly the title or some other tie in like the numbers on LOST.

Then again, Eva Longoria had people on flights to connecting cities to Brazil claiming to be her cousins flying out for her wedding, so there is all kinds of disinfo out there."

Total speculation but...if 11808 isn't a date what is it? Anyone good with codes? I'm still stuck on the time codes being some kind of decoder key.

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rucker
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Total speculation but...if 11808 isn't a date what is it? Anyone good with codes? I'm still stuck on the time codes being some kind of decoder key.


The trailer said, "In Theaters 1-18-08"

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Barry Egan
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 		Re: n/p
tinag222 wrote:
Finally, I am not suggesting people blow off playing Ethan games. Just don't be so quick to embrace a tie in to 1-18 without proof. I'm not going to be jaded or mad or "wrong" if down the road a legit bridge happens and they were related all along. I liked the puzzle and some of the story but my main interest is still 1-18 and so far, at no point would I naturally end up at any EH site whatsoever by following the trailer to the site to the whois to the 2 photos...and neither would anyone else. The ONLY reason people are connecting them is because they have read about BOTH as possibly related from articles mentioning them.

Also note that there haven't been any more "ever so conveniently timed" 1-18 sites to pop up and be handed over arbitrarily, but every day somebody shows up with a variant for an EH related site. On the other forum someone said the whois for one of those sites had changed and added to it was Pike Albert. The whois for S7/1-18 has not changed to accomodate our speculation. If it changed on one of the EH related sites, that smells like gamejacking to me...and whoever is behind EH sites are milking thier 15 minutes of fame they wouldn't have otherwise gotten, and are *after the fact* now trying to manufacture a subtle tie in to 1-18 to keep the momentum going.

What happens down the road if/when it's cleared up it was never related, and the ones behind it never stepped up and set it straight, just hung back and duped people by riding the tails of 1-18 hype.

Just remember, we never naturally uncovered anything about Ethan Haas in a natural progression from the 1-18 site or trailer. The whole EH thing was handed to us arbitrarily and without any in game link.


True, I think we should just wait for the next Ethan Haas update, more than likely August 1st, and then see if these two things are connected.

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Obyj34
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 		I think people are dismissing Ethan Haas too early, it may not be related, but it is not a small scale operation. That site would cost a good amount of money to be made so it's not some viral marketing for a small table top RPG game.

Also with Ethan Haas no one has talked about the name Van Mantra, Van meaning "leader of" and Mantra being a chant.

And last on that note has the EHWW blog's latest post been deciphered?

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