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[META][TRAILHEAD] 1-18-08: Possible new arg/puzzle?
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Can someone tell me about where the Anagrams for like the 'not godzilla' thing came from?

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LOST Season 2 Disc 1

I have been trying to keep up with this thread, has anyone mentioned anything about Lost Season 2 Disc 1 having the number 108 on it? Any connection to the Jan 08 release?

Lost Season 2 DVDs on Amazon

Edit - shortened long URL - celina63

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Barry Egan
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Anonymous wrote:
Can someone tell me about where the Anagrams for like the 'not godzilla' thing came from?


I think that came from My Name Is Van off of IMDB. I believe that it's not Godzilla but I think My Name Is Van is fake.

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Total speculation but...if 11808 isn't a date what is it? Anyone good with codes? I'm still stuck on the time codes being some kind of decoder key.


The trailer said, "In Theaters 1-18-08"


I'll have to watch it again to be sure, but i don't think it actually said "In theatres". It just flashed up "1-18-08".

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AthensDawgs wrote:
rucker wrote:
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Total speculation but...if 11808 isn't a date what is it? Anyone good with codes? I'm still stuck on the time codes being some kind of decoder key.


The trailer said, "In Theaters 1-18-08"


I'll have to watch it again to be sure, but i don't think it actually said "In theatres". It just flashed up "1-18-08".


Just watched it. It said in theaters

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It does say 'in theaters'

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Athens - http://www.circa1978.com/catch/ehwr/ here's a trailer link for easier access. It does clearly show "in theaters 1-18-01" and - for Lola who asked - the significance to it is that a date resolves to the url for the site that was there waiting, complete with visitor tracker, for people to get there. Plus, the site's been up 4 months and nothing is there but the photos. That's not a case of neglect....they've had tons of time to put up a site, even one that had a little more meat than this. It's cryptic for a reason.

You have to consider that at face value as a marketing ploy, they took a large risk that it would be glazed over...the average person isn't going to come up with the inclination to wonder if a date is actually a hidden url. The movie wasn't even titled.

What made this work is that the people behind it already knew and had secured the fact that tons of people at Transformers opening night were already "arg" primed - they'd been all over the sectorseven.org stuff leading to the Transformers and would be 100% more likely to figure out the clues that others would miss....and that would kick it off.

I can't say for sure obviously but I strongly suspect that's the reason for the whois information being the same, with the addition of someone with names from Abrams' Lost show/game, as well as the placement of the trailer immediately before the movie itself. So far, from what I have read and seen, there doesn't seem to be an actual connection to Albert Pike or masons or any of that stuff in either the S7 game or 1-18 trailer...but the "arg people" were behind S7 and apparently behind 1-18, so it's likely that this is more than a viral marketing ploy in and of itself.


Obyj---

All that you pointed to specifically regards the Ethan Haas site and game. But the reason for dismissing it as related to 1-18 is valid - even in the stuff you pointed to, nowhere could you produce a link that tied it directly to 1-18. It was all stuff that could easily fit into EH ONLY.

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I just think we need to keep our eyes on both and see where they lead, I don't know if they will intertwine, but they definitely both have destinations, too much money has been put into each for them not to.

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1-18-08 Musings

So this is just the most fascinating message board I've ever procrastinated a whole morning (and early afternoon) reading. Sadly I have no real in-game (or "if-game") evidence to provide, but I do have a couple of random thoughts in need of sharing.

Firstly, I have no idea whether the Haas and 1-18 stories are tied or not. The first rabbit hole I found was the article on aintitcool in which Harry Knowles made the connection (as mentioned in the Height of Journalistic Integrity that is USA Today). The link is below, but the bottom line to me is that just like the original post hereabouts, Harry's original source of information was from, well, some dude. Some dude emailed him with the connection. To me, this doesn't seem like an unimpeachable source.

Here's the article in question: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/33238

Now, it could very well be that "Aaron" is a shill leading us all down the rabbit hole, but that could not be the case as well. It could also be that the shill represents the puppetmasters of one or the other project and is piggyback the buzz of one project onto the other. We are certainly paying a great deal more attention to the Haas project than we would have had no connection ever been made with 1-18.

One point that does seem settled is that Paramount is involved in both properties. The studio did pull both sets of videos from YouTube at roughly the same time. While I tend to think that it is more likely than not that there is a connection between the two (that is, that they are part of the same SRG), I don't think the notion is settled. Note that Paramount has not been aggressive in pulling either the trailer or the Haas footage from other vid-sharing sites. It is worth remembering that Paramount is a Viacom subsidiary, and is involved in a $1 billion dollar lawsuit against Google/YouTube. My guess is that the decision to pull the trailer and the videos from YouTube came from much higher in the corporate food chain than any group of creators/puppetmasters. Indeed, from a marketing perspective the buzz would be better built with copies of the trailer and game solution videos all over everywhere.

A number of arguments on both sides have made notes of the destroyed city images in both Haas and 1-18, and I fall on the side of those who think that taken alone, it means nothing. I'm a working writer and I'm currently writing a mini-series in which Las Vegas is destroyed. Though gratifying and fun, cities being destroyed is just a fairly common plot element in action/thrillers.

One thing I've seen mentioned several times is that 1-18-08 cannot be a Lovecraft project based on the existence of the Cthulhu movie. I'm not saying this is or is not the case, but it's worth noting that both "Cthulhu" (cthulhuthemovie.com) and the other recent mythos movie, "The Call of Cthulhu" (http://www.cthulhulives.org/cocmovie/) are extremely low-budget properties without distribution - Paramount could easily purchase the rights if they felt the need. The truth is, though, that I think the bulk of Lovecraft's mythos work (Call of Cthulhu, Whisperers in the Darkness, Colour out of Space and a few others) have fallen into the public domain. I think if 1-18-08 is a huge hit, you'll see four or five direct-to-dvd Lovecraft movies fall quickly at its heels.

At any rate, just my $.02. Thank you all for your amazingly entertaining thoughts. This is my second time down one of these sorts of rabbit holes, and last time around I played with myself.

Uhm... you know what I mean.

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tinag -Thanks for the link. I've been looking for a place to watch this thing pretty much since I saw it at the theatre. So that is the release date. I think it also may be more than just the release date.

I agree with a lot of what you say, except the part about this being a huge gamble. Viral marketing and ARGs are popping up everywhere these days, and there are people out there (represented well on this forum) that look for them in everything. It is true that your average person would not even think to type in 1-18-08 as a URL, however the common ARG'er isn't your average person. All it takes is one guy to figure out it's a url, then post it, then it spreads like wildfire.

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I'm a working writer and I'm currently writing a mini-series in which Las Vegas is destroyed.

Yaaay! Finally somebody's laying to waste some other city besides NY!

Being that you're going to give it to Vegas, would that be on the side of nukes gone wild or religious prophecy gone wild? Or "other"? I know why NY usually gets it....but those two are the only ones that come to mind when I think about Vegas getting it. Just curious is all Razz

Atehns - well you are making my point....shorter even Laughing I want to add this, speaking of viral marketing vs arg and noting the difference. One is a hype builder, the other is actually a game. If 1-18 was strictly set up this same way as a VM ploy, and as some articles point out, the simple question the trailer provoked is the lit fuse, they took a huge risk that it'd bomb. There's nothing on the site. It's got no content other than the 2 photos, or one depending on when ya first saw it. What would happen with the average person unfamiliar with args/games is they'd either go in to the hole via searching for Abrams/Bad Robot and end up with a link to the site, or they might type the date in, not looking for a url but to see what this date might be attached to, and find the site up top that way.

They'd pull up this page that has nothing but one/two photos. They'd drag them around a few times, click stuff to change which one's on top. Possibly figure out they could make the copies and discover the rotation. Otherwise, after about 10 seconds of dragging the picture around, getting no information, they're gonna hit the X button and chalk it up as pointless, or at best, not ready yet...and leave wondering.

And get easily distracted by anything else with more momentum - same way this worked out here when Ethan Haas was tossed in. It was moving, emails were being answered, there was interaction and videos so people are there "doing" something because there's nothing to "do" on the 1-18 site. It amounts to a puff of curiosity that burns out since "what about it?"

If they were relying on it as a VM, it'll be short lived and surely won't make enough momentum just off this so far to last til January of 08.

The whois link is what suggest game, as well as the fact the release date is a *hidden* url, and a primed audience was in place because of the S7 game for Transformers. But the same problem is on the table. 1-18 is either static, or there is more to the pictures than we've worked out, and we've not really focused on it much because of the EH stuff in the way.

Visitor counter means they wanna see who's coming and they'll be able to see where they're coming from. I don't think the site was neglected. They had 4 months to add 2 pictures....one was there waiting on the ones who found it because of the trailer....and 2 days later, a second one was added. They're paying attention.

But unless we're missing something with just what's there now, they need to throw us a bone here pretty soon or else it'll turn into the bomb and keel over a people are deadended and get distracted by other stuff, even if it's EH. If they wait a few days and add something else that's just as cryptic, it would be settled it's game, not viral marketing, and hopefully it'll pick up momentum here.

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tinag222 wrote:
[...would that be on the side of nukes gone wild or religious prophecy gone wild?


Religious Prophecies Gone Wild!

I smell a hit new series of raunchy direct-to-DVD movies!

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Being that you're going to give it to Vegas, would that be on the side of nukes gone wild or religious prophecy gone wild? Or "other"? I know why NY usually gets it....but those two are the only ones that come to mind when I think about Vegas getting it. Just curious is all


Heh. Other. And the real reason behind the curtain is because at one point after I pitched the story (but before I was approved to script), my producer said "you know what would be cool? If you destroyed the Vegas strip."

I'm guessing a bad gambling weekend led to a need for revenge.[/quote]

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About those women

Looking at the two women in the 1-18-08 website photo, because half of their faces are captured, it's fairly easy to come up with a pretty good idea of what they look like simply by flipping each half horizontally and laying them together (instead of pitting them side-by-side, as done by others):



(this one was a little more difficult as the camera angle is a little funky)



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