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realityshifter · Boot Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 29

I have a question about the family tree/pedigree chart. The question mark on the bottom (directly to the left of the coded letters) branches down from only one person, not two. How does a person descend from only one parent?

The reason can't be that one of the person's parents are dead, because it seems like any deceased people on the chart are represented as either circles or squares with a line drawn through them. If one of the person's parents were dead, the person would be drawn as a branch coming from two separate people and one would have a line drawn through it. The person wouldn't be drawn as a branch from a single parent.

So, is the top question mark supposed to be Sue and the bottom question mark supposed to be Russ? And if that's the case, does that mean the identity of Russ's father is in question -- i.e., maybe it's Eric (the square to the left of Sue) or maybe it's the CM (the square to the right of Sue)? (And then who does the other question mark represent?)

Does anyone have a version of the family tree where they've written the names of the individuals in the appropriate locations based on what was figured out prior to this latest video? I'm not really sure I'm putting people in their correct locations on the chart.

**Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 1:56 pm

realityshifter · Boot Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 29

**Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:03 pm

licoricesniper · Unfettered Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 560

But isn't he supposed to be locked in a dark room with no windows? The sensory deprivation alone is enough to throw Eric off.

**Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:10 pm

Das Llama · Unfettered Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 362

If anyone needs to find if something has been discussed or old theorys on a subject, there is a search feature at the top by the loggin link.

Reality,

Page one of the [Puzzle] Pedigree Puzzle thread has the pictures.

We prolly need to update it to current theorys.

Das Llama

**Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:19 pm

realityshifter · Boot Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 29

realityshifter · Boot Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 29

**Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:49 pm

youthpastor247 · Decorated Joined: 12 May 2007 Posts: 235

I don't think we can count on Eric potentially being the father of Russ. Eric didn't get to LA until January 2006, if I remember correctly. If that were the case, and he impregnated Sue the day he got there, Russ would've been born around the time Eric was kidnapped. I think it's fairly obvious that Russ is older than that.

Maybe the question marks were because we hadn't met those people yet in the story. Perhaps the resume people fit into the chart. I'm not sure how the numbers match up for that, I'll have to check that later.

**Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:54 pm

licoricesniper · Unfettered Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 560

regardless, I think it is dark enough for it to provemore difficult. It seems lighter due to what I assume is the camera light. I knw personally that even when my eyes adjust to let's say, my dark bedroom at night, I can see things and even read when I focus hard enough, but when the door opens the brightness is blinding for a good minute. I do see what you are trying to say, but regardless of that, I was talking to Nicole about my boss's husband at work (im a nanny) and how I see him every day and talk to him every day but if he were to kidnap me wearing a mask I most likely would not recognize who the hell it was. I would by his voice, but if he had his face covered and didnt speak, I probably wouldnt figure it out. I mean this sounds snobby of me to say, but unless it is a family member or close friend, I really dont pay that much attention to people, and though I interact with my boss's husband throughout the day, I just dont pay that much attention to him. Does that make any sense?

Oh and thank you! HAHA it took Sky and I all of two ours to shoot it and edit it. haha If you like that one you should check out my new one. As if you cant tell, I only feel like making videos when I am on drugs, hehe

**Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 2:56 pm

realityshifter · Boot Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 29

**Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:08 pm

NovaChild

How do we know for a fact that Sue lives in LA?

Yeah, I know we saw her on the beach.. but that could have just been a vacation.

**Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:24 pm

licoricesniper · Unfettered Joined: 14 Dec 2006 Posts: 560

Very true. I think we should all take a good long look at all our assumptions about the story thus far. Assumptions have a way of eventually being accepted as truth even though they may not be. Sometimes when things get all jumbled up and don't make sense, I try to take a step back, and a lot of the time I will stumble upon something I missed or I will see something in a completely different light. I don't know, just a suggestion.

**Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:10 pm

realityshifter · Boot Joined: 03 Jul 2007 Posts: 29

**Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:27 pm

bear.it

Has anyone considered that Michael's step-daughter and her 3-year-old son might in fact be Sue/Russ?

When Michael sent that letter he listed specific names of people in his family, and gave specific details about other people, but not everyone's names ...

Also I am really starting to believe that TDC is Mary. She has the most vested interest in the case, has the access to Michael's computer and emails, and remember how Michael wrote in his decrypted letter that Mary wanted to go forward with some kind of information? And that Michael wrote how he didn't want to reveal/was told not to reveal something about the family that the Feds think might change people's way of thinking?

I think everyone pretty much agrees Michael is hiding something. And if Mary wanted to get that information out there w/o Michael knowing it was her what better way than to take another identity (TDC) and post it in coded form so it wouldn't be blatantly obvious it was her?

And CM seems to have the same amount of disdain for both Mary and TDC ...

Just throwin' it out there.

**Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 5:58 pm

bear.it

Oh and as far as Eric being able to impregnate Sue (which, yes, would be inbreeding if she were Michael's step-daughter...) does anyone know where Eric and his family originally live(d)?

I could be way off, but in the video Sue is seen walking along the beach and also walking along a boardwalk of some kind ...

What if she's a Jersey girl? What if Eric and his family are from that area of the country too?

Someone with Michael's trust should find out where they are from.

AND if any of this were in fact true, it would fit into the "fucked-up situation" Sue was describing, the deep-dark secret the CM is hoping to reveal, the information Michael didn't want to be made public, and might be reason enough for her to kill herself � having her half-brother's baby ...

**Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:07 pm

jabroni

Eric is from Chicago, its on the About Eric page on the fet site. I don't think the affair between Eric and Sue was a one time thing. The CM had to realize it was going on, figure out it was Eric and where he lives, then sneak in and put in the cameras. But then again there are a lot of shots that I'm surprised he was able to get, like Sue in the house, Sue out by the pool, Eric outside with the shovel. Maybe they have some kind of surveillance system at their house.

**Posted:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 6:10 pm