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[META][TRAILHEAD] 1-18-08: Possible new arg/puzzle?
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u4ik
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ag1498 wrote:
The other is that "1-18-08" refers exclusively to the release date of the movie. That's it's not either the title or the time at which the action occurs. The movie could be happening at any time.


After watching the trailer, it's safe to say those picture are taken while these events are unfolding. The pictures had to have been taken at the party featured, and are stamped with the date and time. The news broadcast (aired during the party) reads that it's 63 degrees. The problem here is the pics are obviously taken on 1-18-08, and the news broadcast reads a higher than normal temperature.

Like I said though, 63 isn't unheard of in January. It may just be "one of those things". Right now people are just digging for clues. It may turn into something, may not.

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Obyj34
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Re: EHWR sharing art with "Alpha Omega" RPG?
similar use of background artwork noticeable

SkippySkip wrote:
Obyj34 wrote:
I think people are dismissing Ethan Haas too early, it may not be related, but it is not a small scale operation. That site would cost a good amount of money to be made so it's not some viral marketing for a small table top RPG game.


And yet, it seems to me the website for the RPG (http://www.mindstormlabs.com/products.html) and the EthanHaasWasRight site (http://www.ethanhaaswasright.com/)both share the same artwork...

See for yourself - here's the image from the RPG site:



Notice the two figures and the exposed staircases on the buildings. Now compare that to this screengrab from the EHWR flash site:



Sorry it's tiny, but it's from the right side of the background if you want to compare (from the "destroyed" version of the city that appears after the 2nd puzzle is completed).

Am I crazy, or are these two images the same artwork? And since there was already a connection made, could it mean that EHWR and this "Alpha Omega" RPG are part of the same product?

Or, speculating further, could the "Alpha Omega" RPG be a tie-in to the "1-18-08" film?

What do you guys think?


It's one thing to have similar artwork but the levels of design used on each site are very different. The animations on EHWR are very, very advanced especially with the 3d animation and puzzle scripting.

Do we even know if Mind Storm has created anything on the market yet? Or better yet are they a real company? And if so, do their products make enough money to warrant a highly expensive viral marketing attempt?

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ag1498 wrote:
I'm curious, those pictures are dated for Jan in NY but I can't remember if anybody was wearing winter clothes in the teaser. If not, it could be something...

Wow. I'm clearly more interested in this than working today.

There's been some speculation earlier about the lack of winter clothing (that there could be some global warming tie-in or that it was a production gaffe). From my perspective, there are a couple of logical explanations. One is that most of the characters we follow through the trailer have been inside what seems to be a hot party and have run outside after whatever the disaster is - I doubt they'd have time to change into their winter coats.

The other is that "1-18-08" refers exclusively to the release date of the movie. That's it's not either the title or the time at which the action occurs. The movie could be happening at any time.


The pcitures on 1-18-08.com have a timestamp of 1/18/08 which means it was happening that day.

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JHarmon
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I'm gona play the devil's advocate and say that 1-18-08 is not the release date, and just the title or when things take place (evidenced by the pictures)

If we're getting technical, (and boy am I reaching) "In theaters" and "1-18-08" were on different lines. That's the tiny gap of ambiguity that I'm gonna exploit. Perhaps they're intentionally tricking us.

My proof is fairly weak, and is this: January is where movies go to die. If you're Paramount, and you've got this movie that was made on the cheap by Abras, the next big thing in Hollywood, and with blockbuster features (Monsters, FX, widespread destruction), you, plain and simple, don't release it in January. May at the soonest. The ever-going search for profits in Hollywood demands it.

My money's on 63 degrees being there for numerological significance. Abrams is all about that.

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300

um... no. January is just as good as any other month. remember 300? the movie came out in February, and since it catered to mainly college people and twentysomethings, it was a monster movie and made the studio upwards of 300 Mil. I think they're going for those type of people again. So, I disagree, we will see the movie come 1-18. let's stop following false leads, yea?

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Obyj34
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Isn't 6 months a really short time between announcement and placement in theaters? We usually know about movies years before they are released, especially ones that involve a great deal of post-production work which this definitely will.

But on that same note, 6 months is a hell of a long time to run a teaser to the name of a movie.

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???

Has anyone ever seen a page in a magazine where u fold the page on itself and u get a totally differents image than u started. Just thought if u cut the 2pic in thirds and take out the middle u might get something... Very Happy

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u4ik
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Obyj34 wrote:
Isn't 6 months a really short time between announcement and placement in theaters? We usually know about movies years before they are released, especially ones that involve a great deal of post-production work which this definitely will.

But on that same note, 6 months is a hell of a long time to run a teaser to the name of a movie.


The timeframe is a little odd, yes. Thing is though, it's been mentioned they filmed the movie with a 30 mil budget. Apart from that, apparently most (if not all) of the movie is shot using handheld camcorders. It's not very far-fetched at all. Blair Witch (if I remember correctly) went from pre to post production in a little less than 3 months.

I realize this movie is a little more complex, but there's not telling how much work they've already done on it. It has been dubbed a "top secret" project after all. You'll never know.

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JHarmon
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Re: 300

goldqmedia wrote:
um... no. January is just as good as any other month. remember 300? the movie came out in February, and since it catered to mainly college people and twentysomethings, it was a monster movie and made the studio upwards of 300 Mil. I think they're going for those type of people again. So, I disagree, we will see the movie come 1-18. let's stop following false leads, yea?



I was just throwing out ideas. I made it very clear I didn't truly believe in what I said, but I also think it's important not to term anything a false lead at this point. We don't have nearly enough of anything to rightfully determine what's a real lead and what's a false lead. At this point, we're pretty much all blowing smoke waiting for the site to update.

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Re: ???

sodak wrote:
Has anyone ever seen a page in a magazine where u fold the page on itself and u get a totally differents image than u started. Just thought if u cut the 2pic in thirds and take out the middle u might get something... Very Happy


I'll attempt this right now. Give me 5 minutes.

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Obyj34
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u4ik wrote:
Obyj34 wrote:
Isn't 6 months a really short time between announcement and placement in theaters? We usually know about movies years before they are released, especially ones that involve a great deal of post-production work which this definitely will.

But on that same note, 6 months is a hell of a long time to run a teaser to the name of a movie.


The timeframe is a little odd, yes. Thing is though, it's been mentioned they filmed the movie with a 30 mil budget. Apart from that, apparently most (if not all) of the movie is shot using handheld camcorders. It's not very far-fetched at all. Blair Witch (if I remember correctly) went from pre to post production in a little less than 3 months.

I realize this movie is a little more complex, but there's not telling how much work they've already done on it. It has been dubbed a "top secret" project after all. You'll never know.


The thing about Blair Witch is that it rode on suspense, nothing really happened. What we are gathering now is that this movie is about experiencing the event, as we can see from the trailer/teaser, something is definitely happening and we will be there to experience it.

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Good point on the time stamp - it is the 18th, then. Unseasonably warm it is. Given that there is likely to be some manner of giant monster, I think that's the least of our suspension of disbelief.

As to January in recent years it has become a particularly strong release window for horror movies. Just off the top of my head, Hostel and Darkness Falls both debuted in Jan at number one and went on to outperform expectations.

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I think you're missing the obvious on the significance of the 1-18-08 thing. The trailer with no name said "in theaters 1-18-08" and any lucid person will interpret that entirely as a date when the no name move is gonna be in theaters. That's not cryptic.

The cryptic part is that they'd already produced the website from March when it was bought/created, and the domain was 1-18-08. Well it's not a stretch why they did this. They haven't released a name for the mystery movie and if they want a game or just viral marketing they gotta have somewhere to send people TO....so they used that as the domain. It was also cleverly hidden - that this was a url - nobody would've thought that up on their own.

What's to speculate? The photos on the site show a date and timestamp. 01/18/2008 - these are photos, stills, the premise of the trailer is that it's taken footage from a video camera which has a time and date stamp. They're being consistent even tho in real life videorecorder footage isn't out putted in flash images.

So it's what it appears to be - a date/time stamp.

The cryptic part is the way they were presented at all. A picture appears with the above date, and a time of 12:36A...it was speculating it could be biblical reference, until they added the second picture with a time stamp of 12:01A.

Now the fact it is what it's presented to be is clearer....we know this is Rob's party, we recognize the suit guy as Rob, the chick behind him and the guy feeding a drink all from the party during the trailer. So we can presume this is taking place at 12:01am INTO January 18, 2008.

(and don't bother looking for 1-17-08.com, there aint one Laughing )

But if you watch the trailer you know this scene wasn't in it anywhere, so it's a timeframe reference AGAIN, it had to have been taken before the events of the trailer. The party, however, had to be going on technically the night of January 17, 2008...that's when it began.

As for the original first photo, given the up close shot and lack of details other than distressed.upset expression, we can see that the shot was taken, if we continue with the timeframe reference, half hour after the photo of Rob taking a drink. We don't know yet for sure if this is one of the girls from the trailer....this could be a parallel sort of thing, someone else's story, or it could be some other shot of the chick upset for whatever reason. Yes, it is an assumption that she was at the party (we didn't see her), that she's frightened (because we are aware of the monster attack), that this shot even came from the same camera.

All we know for sure is that whoever she is, she's upset about something and this shot was taken from whichever camera 30 minutes after Rob's party/drink picture was taken...and there are obviously unknowns so far for January 17 and earlier. We're getting the "result" as of Jan 18. But even the trailer revealed chunks of it were presented in flashback form.

The key here looks more like the clues are in the timing, not the letters/numbers being hidden. They hid something in plain site here....and we're missing it.

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Re: ???

u4ik wrote:
sodak wrote:
Has anyone ever seen a page in a magazine where u fold the page on itself and u get a totally differents image than u started. Just thought if u cut the 2pic in thirds and take out the middle u might get something... Very Happy


I'll attempt this right now. Give me 5 minutes.


It's nothing... two women with their heads next to each other and the second pic is a dude shoving his arm into "Rob's" neck.

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Re: ???

Robin's Minstrel wrote:
u4ik wrote:
sodak wrote:
Has anyone ever seen a page in a magazine where u fold the page on itself and u get a totally differents image than u started. Just thought if u cut the 2pic in thirds and take out the middle u might get something... Very Happy


I'll attempt this right now. Give me 5 minutes.


It's nothing... two women with their heads next to each other and the second pic is a dude shoving his arm into "Rob's" neck.


Yeah, I lol'd when I looked it.

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