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[Question/OT] Sufficient Biomass?
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 		[Question/OT] Sufficient Biomass?
Within itself it is not hard to understand that this means anything that can help support the flood. My question is what is sufficient biomass? How large does something have to be in order for it to be sufficient. And then most importantly, would it include kids and little children? I honestly have no idea, but Im going back through Halo 1 and looking a the books to see if it ever mentions what the magic number is for mass.

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 		what about flood lifespan?
If flood needs calcium and biomass to live, how long does it take to starve one, or all? Any byproduct of flood would typically get returned to the environment for recycling (food cycle) That cycle needs to be longer than the flood's lifecycle, since regeneration of their "food" takes time.

for example, to build a human of sufficient biomass would take about 20 years, give or take, in terms of diet and exercise. a flood would need to last much shorter to prevent the new hosts from being infected.

Wouldn't a tree contain enough biomass to suffice? How about a shark? or whale? if intelligence is needed (sentient?) dolphins may be close (depending on the Halo filtering factors).

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 		Well I was headed in the directiont that even if the Halos fired and destroyed everything of sufficient Biomass, would there still be people left over.

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 		Re: what about flood lifespan?
LordC wrote:
Wouldn't a tree contain enough biomass to suffice? How about a shark? or whale? if intelligence is needed (sentient?) dolphins may be close (depending on the Halo filtering factors).



There's 2 conditions: Biomass and Cognatition. It has to be able to consiously think. So, if under Flood attack, the only tree we'd have to fear is this guy:



I assume they don't last very long without food. Their life cycle is exactly like that of a virus:



A Flood infection form attaches onto a host, killing it and reanimating it as a warrior or carrier. The warrior changes into a carrier eventually and the carrier then bursts, taking down your shields, and the cycle starts all over again.
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 		Re: what about flood lifespan?
rush wrote:
LordC wrote:
Wouldn't a tree contain enough biomass to suffice? How about a shark? or whale? if intelligence is needed (sentient?) dolphins may be close (depending on the Halo filtering factors).



There's 2 conditions: Biomass and Cognatition. It has to be able to consiously think. So, if under Flood attack, the only tree we'd have to fear is this guy:



I assume they don't last very long without food. Their life cycle is exactly like that of a virus:



A Flood infection form attaches onto a host, killing it and reanimating it as a warrior or carrier. The warrior changes into a carrier eventually and the carrier then bursts, taking down your shields, and the cycle starts all over again.


I'm talking time, not steps. It would be less than 100k years out =side the Halos, since there should be no flood around, but for Humans and covenant to rise within that 100k years without flood, I would thin it needs to be shorter than a about two decades.

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 		The bigger question should be: How did the Flood survive on Halo without food? Were they frozen?
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rush wrote:
The bigger question should be: How did the Flood survive on Halo without food? Were they frozen?


Maybe (and this is kind of dark) whoever made the erroneous decision to keep the Flood alive also provided for food in the form of sentient lifeforms. They would be protected from the blast (if we assume that each Halo is a "safe zone" that doesn't target itself) and could then be used to keep the Flood alive. This could help explain why there are so many freaking Flood in the Library level, including a huge number of warrior forms. It also makes 343 much more Guilty, which makes the story deeper, but creepier. I picture a Matrix-like breeding ground for the "food", with 343 gliding around everywhere talking cheerfully before dinner.

However (to play both sides), it does seem, based on the recording from Pvt. Jenkins, that the only things that the marines fight at first are infection forms. Only after the Flood have killed the marines, and then spread across the level to kill some Elites, do the warrior forms start showing up (when MC arrives). If all that is on Halo is infection forms, then it appears that there is a way to keep the infection forms alive without food (because if there was "food", then you would think the marines would have encountered some warrior forms.) Also, such a project would require a lot of space and effort, and we neither see such a breeding ground nor do we hear from Cortana about it (and one would think if she caught a whiff of such a thing while she was in the system, she would have said something to MC about it).

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 		I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'm sure that on Delta Halo just before reaching the gondola Cortana says it looks like the structures were designed (or built) to house the flood. If memory serves she then says, "Sorry, were you trying to kill something?"
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 		To play the two part theory like you did:

On one hand, the Forerunner themselves could have emerged from Onyx and decided to feed the remaining Flood infections themselves. A sacrifice to benefit the greater knowledge and legacy of the Forerunner.

On the more logical hand, freezing the infection forms seems like the smartest idea. If you go around the leve "Guilty Spark" on Halo 1, you can see the tall, rectangular glass chambers (greenish room where you can fall through the broken glass on the catwalks) where the Covenant released the Flood. Those could have been Freezing chambers.
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