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[META][TRAILHEAD] 1-18-08: Possible new arg/puzzle?
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tinag222
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 		Joe - just to clarify, the donut reference was just associative. Nightowl originally posted here first about the link to the LA film shoot under the slusho name....and in the content of what he posted, someone had suggested donuts and the simpson movie...and originally that made no sense to me so when I noticed the white Os on the shirt, the first thing that came to me was donuts. That being said, last night like 5 minutes after I posted the pics of that guy's shirt, MSNBC ran a story about "slurpies" which immediately got my attention....next shot was "donuts" and I was all ears.

Turns out, that was a reference to the new Simpson's movie and them looking for the location for Springfield, lots of places, including the same area in LA. So that's how that was likely misunderstood in the nightowl post content.

However, about the shirt, bingo on it not being donuts, cd's or reflections. I am leaning toward CG'd in...here's why...

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The deal with the slusho tishirt guy was hindsight logic but it made sense after the fact and I can't help but consider the other clue on the 1-18 site is the same....I'll try not to make this too long but want to be clear.

I think the right track is that this is hidden in plain sight and not so much embedded numbers, with regard to the 1-18 site. The second picture they added was not cryptic in and of itself. Let's go with Occam's Razor approach and look for simple obvious points....

We figured out (or one guy did) that the roof guy is wearing a slusho shirt, which led to the actual site. Well on the 1-18 site, the 2nd pic they added was this scene of the roof guy feeding Rob the drink. The logo on his shirt was the clue, despite being blurry and grainy. It was connect the dots basically.

Well, if so, then the scene of that picture was suggesting something. Also, as someone pointed out, the banner shot in the trailer seems to focus on one particular spot, which is the same in Pic2.

Something relevant over where the banner is but all I get from the trailer is a fooseball table AND that white board with what looks like a stamp on it.

That red stamp looks a lot like a robot but I haven't messed with it yet to see. The people shown in Pic 2 obviously have some relevance.

Again, the link to slusho comes from the logo on the guy's shirt. As it happens the other guy in the same photo has an curious image on his shirt in those shots I posted - they're either in the shirt or were embedded into the shot.

I seriously cannot consider the shirt was printed this way. It's a dress shirt and already has a pattern/print. The big white o's make no sense. There are two frames in the trailer where that guy is also over by the fooseball table and banner. Despite the monster aspect, the overall theme here is realism and the slusho clue was in plain sight on a guy's tshirt which is "realism" as opposed to working out a cryptogram somewhere. That guy is featured prominantly in pic 2. As is Rob. As is the guy in the dress shirt.

Also supporting this isn't a tiedie case is that the overall mentality of this group was more upscale preppy posh, the artsy types with good taste - hitech style with a lot of Asian flair. Even their menu consisted of lobster tails and sushi. Nobody there was wearing beatnick artsy style clothing, they were well dressed, many of them in blazers. The dress shirt the guy is wearing already has a striped print. If he was gonna tiedie it, why just two out of synch white os?

That this guy is also shown in pic to WITH HIS BACK TO US and that when he's shown running out WITH HIS BACK TO US, we again see something's up with the shirt....and two white Os. (forget donuts!) One up top and one down to the right.

Follow the same train of thought, looking at the first image they put up for us, is the girl/2girls....if it's two girls, and at this point it's fine that it is, then the clue is which two girls are these?

Clue: That photo was the first one presented. The timestamp is 12:36A

The newsreport screen shows the time as 12:32A

Now working off the trailer's events and "flashbacking" again, the picture content isn't in the trailer, there's a 4 minute difference. The newsreport comes first. Four minutes later is the chaos. So looking from there to the end of the trailer, what it looks like is finding these two girls in some shot they are close together and visibly upset AND LOOKING UP.

The only thing that really points to glaringly is once they're outside and the two chicks outside in the street by Rob, and both of them inevitably look up, albeit a different shot perspective, as the SOL comes flying down the street. The visible clue there is the 401 Broadway sign prominantly blown up. Also going on there is someone asking where Jason is.

If it's in plain sight, the story of the first picture and the time reference points to somewhere specific....

401Broadway is bought but not up yet.

And finally, for the official record, in JJ Abrams' email to Knowles he seemed to suggest they were more focused on the movie than the stuff online, and that they've ALREADY gotten "fun stuff" on the web for us to find, which we haven't. It could be that 401broadway site isn't connected but some other variant is, or that section of the street, the SOL head being severed and thrown into 401 bldg - that the clue is pointing to that event in particular.

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Xius
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 		http://www.robertpenner.com/

its just a developers site.
nothing big

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Lovek
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Izathatch wrote:
I just found both of those right now and then I found this:

http://www.abz3293.com/


Jeez, at least put some google ads on there and make some coin. Someone should be profiting from the 10,000 "FAKE!" posts we're going to have to wade through.

This being one of them.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 10, 2007 3:10 pm
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 		Re: Update on history.swf
nightspd wrote:
Grym wrote:
Okay, so I scoured through the history.swf file and as far as I can tell there are no hidden links or whatnot in it. (bummer) However, there are some strange coincidences in it regarding it's structure.

The bubbles of the donkey are actually regulated by code which says the following:

Code:

var i = random(10);
if (i >= 6)
{
   gotoAndPlay("start");
}
else
{
   gotoAndPlay("blank");
}


All this code does is generate a random number and if that number is greater than or equal to six, displays the bubble animation seen on the donkey. If that number is less than 6 it shows nothing. So 60% of the time, it shows nothing.

Now, I find interesting because >=6 is just another way of saying NOT LESS THAN 6.

How this plays into the puzzle is unknown to me at this point. Maybe someone else can figure it out. Since numbers are a big theme in this ARG, maybe it's useful to know that this code appears on frame 51 and sprite 96 and the bubbles themselves have a name of "b3".

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I'll do the same flash-based investigation on the other pages of the slusho site and let you know what I come up with if I find anything.

-Grym


You missed the most important part though...

I've scoured through the code for the index.swf, history.swf AND the photos.swf file from both 1-18-08.com AND slusho.jp and found that in history.swf, the following code snippet mentions the name 'Robert Penner' . At first i thought it was just a flash developer's name, but if that was the case, and the same person coded all three pages, don't you think that the name would be in ALL THREE PAGES..but it's not, only in the history.swf file:

Code:
movieClip 146 __Packages.com.robertpenner.easing.Back {

    #initclip
      if (!_global.com) {
        _global.com = new Object();
      }
      if (!_global.com.robertpenner) {
        _global.com.robertpenner = new Object();
      }
      if (!_global.com.robertpenner.easing) {
        _global.com.robertpenner.easing = new Object();
      }


I'm not saying there's anything to it..but still..something about this doesn't sit right with me...what do you guys think?!

oh btw, ACE 2004...maybe the ACE Awards??

-c


http://www.robertpenner.com/

Prolific Shockwave author. Probably his routine / library

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JimmieBJr
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Lovek wrote:
JimmieBJr wrote:
Any thoughts?


I'm thinking it might be time to obliterate this thread, condense it down to one 2-paragraph post, and start over. Wink


I'm definitely okay with that. Heck, it doesn't even need to be two paragraphs - just a couple links with a sentence of explanation behind each one. Maybe a pointer to this thread and a post number that designates where the update ends (i.e. "Update 1: Posts 1-1046" for example). It could be as much as a full-blown trail, but it wouldn't be worth the work, I'd say, until we know if we have an actual ARG or just a "find the new website" kind of thing.

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JHarmon
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 		Re: Update on history.swf
nightspd wrote:
Grym wrote:
Okay, so I scoured through the history.swf file and as far as I can tell there are no hidden links or whatnot in it. (bummer) However, there are some strange coincidences in it regarding it's structure.

The bubbles of the donkey are actually regulated by code which says the following:

Code:

var i = random(10);
if (i >= 6)
{
   gotoAndPlay("start");
}
else
{
   gotoAndPlay("blank");
}


All this code does is generate a random number and if that number is greater than or equal to six, displays the bubble animation seen on the donkey. If that number is less than 6 it shows nothing. So 60% of the time, it shows nothing.

Now, I find interesting because >=6 is just another way of saying NOT LESS THAN 6.

How this plays into the puzzle is unknown to me at this point. Maybe someone else can figure it out. Since numbers are a big theme in this ARG, maybe it's useful to know that this code appears on frame 51 and sprite 96 and the bubbles themselves have a name of "b3".

----

I'll do the same flash-based investigation on the other pages of the slusho site and let you know what I come up with if I find anything.

-Grym


You missed the most important part though...

I've scoured through the code for the index.swf, history.swf AND the photos.swf file from both 1-18-08.com AND slusho.jp and found that in history.swf, the following code snippet mentions the name 'Robert Penner' . At first i thought it was just a flash developer's name, but if that was the case, and the same person coded all three pages, don't you think that the name would be in ALL THREE PAGES..but it's not, only in the history.swf file:

Code:
movieClip 146 __Packages.com.robertpenner.easing.Back {

    #initclip
      if (!_global.com) {
        _global.com = new Object();
      }
      if (!_global.com.robertpenner) {
        _global.com.robertpenner = new Object();
      }
      if (!_global.com.robertpenner.easing) {
        _global.com.robertpenner.easing = new Object();
      }


I'm not saying there's anything to it..but still..something about this doesn't sit right with me...what do you guys think?!

oh btw, ACE 2004...maybe the ACE Awards??

-c


It might not be on all four pages if they just used a script designed by this guy, who is a flash designer, on that one page. Looks like another dead end.

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 		heh
Lovek wrote:
Izathatch wrote:
I just found both of those right now and then I found this:

http://www.abz3293.com/


Jeez, at least put some google ads on there and make some coin. Someone should be profiting from the 10,000 "FAKE!" posts we're going to have to wade through.

This being one of them.

Funny thing is one of the other sites they host with this IP is "Ethics in Business" Found that funny...

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 		Re: Crazy!!
JFTeran wrote:
Izathatch wrote:
DigitalDWR wrote:
Looking at the trailer frame fer frame i found a partcial phone number in the scene right before the statue of liberty head gets hurled


##6-5535 its right under the textile sign.


and a license plate


ABZ-3293 - New York


I just found both of those right now and then I found this:

http://www.abz3293.com/


Is that legit?



from wat have learned from the ethan haas thing, if its a blog, it can be produced by any1, and bsides, that tells us nothing anyways...obvious gamejacker

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 		robertpennerSPLATyahoo.com

imma bout to Email him,
see if he knows anything about "cloverfield"

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 		Re: Slusho
re: Blicero
Grym wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if one of the bubbles being let out by the donkey sprite was actually a button leading to a hidden page. But I can't prove that just yet.

-Grym


Just checked, some of the bubbles coming from the Donkey's mouth are in fact clickable.

Unfortunately, I haven't seemed to be able to actually click them - they go away too fast (I foccused on the area between the ears, above it's head). Or maybe I have, but it just appears clickable because of a glitch or something.

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Xius wrote:
robertpennerSPLATyahoo.com

imma bout to Email him,
see if he knows anything about "cloverfield"

Don't bother him. As I said up there, he just designs flash scripts. He wasn't probably even in contact with whoever made the slusho page.

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 		meh, fine.
im just gunna ask if he knows anything about slusho products :S

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Xius wrote:
robertpennerSPLATyahoo.com

imma bout to Email him,
see if he knows anything about "cloverfield"


Please, please, let's not email him.

I think we can all understand the desire to cover of our bases, but we should also be careful about badgering innocent people.

I suspect if we need to email him, we'll be given a more direct sign.
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Xius wrote:
robertpennerSPLATyahoo.com

imma bout to Email him,
see if he knows anything about "cloverfield"


I'd sit tight on that right now. Wait until something more than a library reference in a program to a pretty well-known and prolific programmer is found. We don't want to be touching a bunch of folks who are OOG.

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 		sorry,
i wont.

im just lookin for answers Razz

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