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Schrijvertje
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Creepy

yougetmehigh wrote:
So I just found this randomly tonight

http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/79057/Sun_to_Blame_For_Dropped_Cellphone_Calls


You should show it to Hendler. Perhaps it'll give him a heart attack and that'll be one less enigma to deal with Twisted Evil

Sorry. Hello, my name is Johnny and I'm a sadistic bastard.

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fizzcharlson
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Alternately we tie the man to a fast tan sun bed for a few weeks and when he's thoroughly cooked and kippered and resembles burnt mahogany like Donatella Versace we go "....see Dr. Hendler! Sun is bad!!!..."

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he might complain about the tanning bed being less dangerous to the harmless sun
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agentgr33n
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pretty much hes a coverup man..waves his hand and now theres no solarflare danger. like a magic trick. now you see it now you dont. marshal says hendler knows more than him? if he knows more then he really is hendler the magnificent. that article on cell phones was nice since hendler himself has said the same thing(good job yougetmehigh) DJ still cares about her but hell get in "trouble?" why? did he piss the hendler off and he ran him off? more and more questions with every post.


p.s.
DJs email is djSPLATfullofhope.com rite?

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Schrijvertje
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No, DJ's e-mail is fullofhopeSPLATmac.com

I've been trying to get the story on DJ and Hendler, with no luck. DJ is acting all wussy. I basically told him Hendler was going away and he wouldn't be seen by him, but he was still scared of the guy catching him.

I'm going to try to bring Marshal into this. As far as I can see, he's the one who knows Hope best. He might be able to tell us something more about their history. And since we've developed a good dialogue concerning the science part, this could be a good time to take it a bit further.

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fizzcharlson
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I can't get anything from DJ either though it seems clear that something transpired between him and Hendler between Hope's goodbye to him as seen on Youtube and the date of her prom. Since he indicates he better not talk to or be in contact with either of them you can be sure and certain that Hendler has threatened him with the 'stay away from my daughter' thing. He also seems none too pleased with Hope's recent declaration that she's missing him, kinda feels to me that he's missing her too but is unable or unwilling to make contact due to circumstance.

Interestingly Marshal doesn't think too highly of him either which may simply be as he has only Hope's side of the story. Since we don't know what has transpired between DJ and Hendler or what Hendler is truly capable of I'm gonna give the chap the benefit of the doubt. Would seem unfair to dismiss his attitude until we know what threat, if any, was made. Poor DJ Sad

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agentgr33n
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thanks Schrijvertje i just mailed ol' dj with questions about everyone so well see what he says....i get this feeling that something is about to happen...

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Schrijvertje
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If only there was a better way to contact the Doc. Now all we can do is reply to his blog. It's a real restriction, IMO.

Mcgritts, just read your latest reply to his blog. Risky move, mentioning Marshal like that.

Then again, Hendler never took the bait when I told him about the Lachlan MySpace and that it was really a guy named Marshal who seems to know him.

I've been wondering about Marshal's corner store, by the way. What if it's not a real store, but a cover for a secret project in which they are working on some kind of protection against the solar storms? Because as far as I can tell, Marshal is a scientist (Hope confirmed he has done some work over at Mount Wilson Observatory, even though she doesn't know what kind of work) so it strikes me as odd that he would go into the retail business.

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Hi Gang,
Had a few messages from Marshal who to be honest seems to have got the wrong end of the stick on some of the points I was trying to make, hasn't really responded as I would have hoped he would and further confused matters for me in an already confusing enough scenario.

1) Despite recent contradictions it has been noted that Hendler isn't supremely concerned with Hopes current jaunt wherever. It annoys him admittedly but it's no major trauma, even he admits it is a simple rite of passage on her part.

2) Hope isn't all that resentful of her father. She leaves notes for him, calls him, speaks fondly of him and seems to have no real reason to fear him.

3) DJ doesn't really have a problem with any of them, he simply feels it best he keeps away.

4) Hendler isn't really concealing information he simply isn't doing his job as well as he is able, making a buck and pound out of it it would seem in the process.

5) The solar flares don't appear to worry anyone other than Marshal who has admitted to me the real problem they will cause is a slight change within human behaviour, even then he has no idea what can be done about it and admits he cannot even prove his own theory that solar flares cause changes in human behaviour rather than are simply observed at the same time as notable changes in human behaviour occur.

It's all a bit angry with, a little dangerous, somewhat annoyed, might cause a problem, don't talk a lot, can't do anything about it anyway.
It seems no one is dead, no one is in danger, no one is doing anything massively wrong, no one really hates anyone else and on and on and on.
What's the mystery guys? I just can't see it? It's like a lukewarm plot in daytime soap opera. Anyone help me out here?
Oh well here's the messages.

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Hendler is not *placing* us at risk. We are at risk, but who knows how
much? He's just trying to make sure that his big fat corp backers
don't
have to PAY for upshielding new sats. Think tobacco companies - they
know
what the risks are but they like the money better. A few people die,
so
what?

I think we need to examine - and this is what we're trying to do here -
the
correlation between solar storms and adverse human health effects.
Right
not it's a correlation; not causation - that's the rub and that's
something
Hendler holds onto pretty tightly. I have no idea how to *prove*
causation
right now. We're trying. We're trying.

I think, in a way, we're all bystanders in this.

Maybe if we could get Hendler... it's just absurd. He's not gonna flip
and
share data.


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He's not evil. When did I say he's evil? I don't like him and I think
he's being anti-productive.

He's her father, man.

Victor means nothing to me.

Busy day, gtg.


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agentgr33n
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shes scared?

i messaged hope about her dads new blog and how pissed he is....
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I know. I saw his post.

I'm scared.


now if he wasnt all that bad why would she be scared? Fizz i 100 percent agree that this is gettin all a little much but i really think its fixing to blow or maybe it has with hendlers new "victim" post?

p.s.
i think hes refering to you Schrijvertje about quoting him on hope but i wish he would address what iv said already....

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fizzcharlson
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Right!
I am a patient(ish) man but I am not a guarded, scared and weak individual and to be fair there is no way on God's Earth that that man is going to reply to my friend Schrijvertje in the manner in which he did and whilst I accept that I am probably bringing upon myself a whole world of pain I am going to tell that odious individual what I think of him just for the sheer pleasure of doing so. Who the hell does he think he is talking to? Schrijvertje has been nothing but engaged, diplomatic, conversant, friendly and so and so forth and that mire of a human individual posts the reply he did?
This is war my friends!

As for Hope McGritts she so scared that she denies every attempt on our part to malign her father, defends him, says she misses him and has Marshal defending the chap and denying that he's evil. By God talk about manipulation. If the three of them aren't in on this I will strip naked.
Hope "..my dad's a bit controlling.."
Marshal "..no he's not that bad.."
Well what the hell has he done then? Does he expect Hope in before midnight? Does he expect her to empty the garbage once a week? Beyond being an arsehole what is this man's crime?

God I'm ranting but that post has done it for me.

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agentgr33n
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TAKE A BREATH

calm down man....with that magnificent rant i have come to the conclusion that they only seem to dance around the obvious questions while attempting to create others before fully explaining the first..?are we missing something?(besides why we're all here) i dunno....i have been blunt but again just get blown off.stating the obvious and you get tennis?we have got to be missing something......

p.s.
Fizz AWESOME post on hendlers blog but you just linked you 2 on hendlers side....just a note.....still AWESOME!!!!!!!!

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Serenity

Oh I don't know about that McGritts I feel I may live to regret it. I am more composed now than when I wrote it and have decided to leave it there. Come what may it will do us no harm to have a bit of fun with this, let's see what Hendler does next.

On a serious note my own musings kept me awake last night and I'm beginning to wonder if the key to this mystery is what I half said in jest. If you think of the facts from the very beginning we began with a mysterious site full of solar flare warnings, apocalyptic messages and various motifs hidden within that were used on sites to mark our progress. Hope overuses the smileys that were encoded into the browser tab, Lachlan, Hendler and DJ all use the ORBITAS anagram, Hendler used the full site address in his source code and so on and so forth. The original site can be linked to a lesser or greater degree to all of them.

Despite all we have uncovered we still are unable to solicit any real information from any of them. They are reticent to speak ill of each other, do not seriously imply any great wrongdoing on the part of each other, will not share personal details on each other, are all economical with the truth and so on and so forth again. Regardless of what they say they all remain in contact with each other, Marshal mails Hendler, Hope calls Hendler and there are examples to laborious to mention. If anyone of us dares to be critical then they each jump to each others defense.

Hope, Hendler and Marshal are ORBITAS or whatever it is behind this. We are the pawns, we are the lab rats and whatever is behind this mystery we are being manipulated into a constant maze of dead ends and half truths to obscure us from finding out what the THREE of them are up to.

If you think back to Youtube, Hope travelled to an observatory with Marshal and when asked if she was there in an official capacity rather than as a visitor she declined to answer. She was clearly seen travelling in an authorised zone only, namely a staff area. I'm sure and certain in her attic video she has a planetary globe in the background of the shot. All musings I know but I haven't believed a word she has said from day one.

I think we need to try to catch them out, rather than playing cat and mouse with them and this constant round of red herrings let us try to prove if there is in fact and possibility that what I have said is right.

Again wild and speculative but I am becoming more convinced as the days pass.

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agentgr33n
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Fizz...no regrets my friend...with that being said iv noticed they still all pretty much update at the same time/day not one today one tomorrow same day....and again just the total blow off of questions being asked maybe its all to make us wait? maybe we/they are not ready?maybe we havent asked the rite questions?and maybe simply the story hasnt got there.......BUT i still strongly believe somethings fixin to happen. has anyone ever asked about the website that startes all this????

i just got done posting some the report we were sent(from marshal) on hendlers blog.... i feel better.....

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Schrijvertje
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Hi guys,

First off, thanks for defending me, Fizz. I just read Hendler's reply and I was taken a little aback, but it was somewhat to be expected he would react in such a way. It's in his character.

I spent the day in my home town, first doing some shopping then visiting my parents. I only caught up now. Let me begin with the messages I received.

First one's is from Marshal, a reply to my theory about Hendler working for both sides (the government as well as the comsat companies):
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GM could build a 100% safe car. It would cost a million buck on the market, but they could do it.

We can shield sats, too. It's just cost-prohibitive, to use a Hendlerian phrase.

Hendler's no double agent. He's just picked his side - the more money in my pocket side.

DJ... screw that kid. I don't know if Hendler said something to him but you don't dump a girl on prom night. Hope's at my place.

How do you know that Hope left her dad note? Is she bloging?


Second is a shorter one from Marshal after I asked him about Corner Store Tech. I also told him how we here are somewhat working together but are still individuals with personal views:

Quote:
I can't talk about CST. I know, I know this is my email.

Good about working together. When we're ready to open the door, we will.


Can you say secret handshake?

So Hendler has the power to actually prove the dangers of solar flares, but he has decided to go for the money and don't use that power. Still don't know the details, in which way he's actually doing that. I'd say he's just not trying very hard to be a real scientist.

Next message is from Hope, after I asked her what I should say to DJ, working as the middle man in their "relationship", and after I asked her what she put in her note to the Doc:
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I'm well. Tell him I'm really super happy and I've moved on and I never want to see him again!

No. Don't tell him that. Where is her? Is he in Ojai?

I didn't say anything mean in my note at all. I told him I loved him and missed him.


About the note: either Hope is lying or Hendler is overreacting and reading stuff that isn't there.

And we finally have a location! Ojai, just a few miles up Highway 33, about 12 miles inland from Ventura, the smallest city in Ventura County. Here's a nice piece of trivia:
Quote:
Since Ojai is lined up with east-west mountain range, it is one of few towns in the world to have the Pink Moment occur as the sun is setting. The fading sunlight creates a brilliant shade of pink on the Topatopa Bluffs that occur at the east end of the Ojai Valley, reaching over 6,000 feet above sea level.

And another one:
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The valley is home to the oldest continuously-held tennis tournament in the world, the Ojai Valley Tennis Tournament, and it has several public courts in the downtown Libbey Park.


So is this their home town?

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