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tinag222
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Curious for the NYers


Is there by chance a natural museum or an aquarium down around the area where the SOL comes flying into 401 sign? (yeah, I saw night at the museum...where is that exactly, in relation to the events?)

If there is anything there that could "come to life" or be animated in the frame of that guy's reference. It's just not a congruent statement to make and with all the cool lines I seriously doubt it melted down into bad script writing. They left it in the trailer with reason.

And in the context of what's going on, just basic perception and interpretation demands that if you say "it's alive" then you either assumed beforehand it was dead, or you assumed beforehand that it wasn't supposed to be alive at all - and exclaiming it's alive in this case is NOT a revelation of the obvious but a WTF reprocessing of what you're seeing.

If I saw the SOL, I'd go "I saw it, it's huge!"

If I saw the SOL head come down the street on its own, I'd go "I saw it, it's huge! It skidded down the street."

If I saw the SOL step off and come walking down the street on its own, THEN I'd go with "WTF! IT'S ALIVE! It's huge!"

Followed immediately by major asshaulage to a safe spot to then watch the SOL take a stroll down the street and get a grip on my entire sphere of reality.

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tinag222 wrote:

If there is anything there that could "come to life" or be animated in the frame of that guy's reference. It's just not a congruent statement to make and with all the cool lines I seriously doubt it melted down into bad script writing. They left it in the trailer with reason.

And in the context of what's going on, just basic perception and interpretation demands that if you say "it's alive" then you either assumed beforehand it was dead, or you assumed beforehand that it wasn't supposed to be alive at all - and exclaiming it's alive in this case is NOT a revelation of the obvious but a WTF reprocessing of what you're seeing.


Or you saw something but you have no freaking idea what it is and the only thing your brain can think to blurt out is "It's alive".

I'm starting to learn toward the tentacled whatchamacallit theory, but it's not based on much. I saw a map a couple of days ago that showed 401 Broadway and the SOL and I noticed that you could draw a parabolic arc from the SOL to B'way and pretty much have something wing right down the street.

That means, of course, that whatever hurled the SOL head was flipping ENORMOUS, right? I think if I saw something that damned gigantic actually moving, the first thought into my head might well be "Holy Crap, that thing's alive!".
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I agree with Jimmy.

Word.

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Guys! the cups on the bottom of the slusho page! there has to be something there!
ok on the right side there are 9 cups; 1 full 8 empty 1-18? maybe this is all coincidence but i think there has to be something here

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Alucard wrote:
Guys! the cups on the bottom of the slusho page! there has to be something there!
ok on the right side there are 9 cups; 1 full 8 empty 1-18? maybe this is all coincidence but i think there has to be something here


well its prolly somehtin like 1/??/08 instead

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Okay Jim....I'll bring it to ya here case ya missed it over there:

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Now, if my car 'transformed' into a robot.....then maybe....



Thank you! ;-p

And I would like to take this opportunity to remind some of the naysayers that "it's alive" is perfectly reasonable to say....

I do believe in the movie that followed the trailer, there's a scared shitless, quite confused young lad by the name of Witwicky who is telling his cellphone, regarding his newly purchased - usually inanimate - automobile....

MY CAR! IT'S ALIVE!

When his newly purchased automobile decided to drive out the driveway on its own and proceed to undo itself and stand upright and partake in a rock em sock em autobot match with a - usually inanimate - police car.

Thank you very much. Razz

If I saw King Kong, I'm sure I'd trip on it but given the obvious point it's a large primate, it's sort of moot to blurt out it's alive....it's like, duh, no kidding. The 64 grand question is why the hell is it 10 stories tall and how did it get that way.

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Possible leads?

Hey, I may be waaaay behind, but has anyone read all the stuff on Rob's refrigerator, using the HD trailer? I can read most of the "Ding Dong" thing - the two things below it say
"What my ______ says about me"
and
"On my way to"

Does anyone recognize that thing?

This may have already been covered somewhere...

Also on the fridge is some Japanese writing, the already-looked-into "Exit to Mystery St." things, and a mostly unreadable sign that has the word "life" ending the second line. "Your Life Has" maybe?

ALSO:
There is a sideways box in the scene where the blonde says "Rob's awesome. I'm going to miss him."It looks like it also has Japanese writing on it, and at least two Japanese-looking people - one wearing the stereotypical Japanese hat.

Any info?

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tinag222 wrote:
Okay Jim....I'll bring it to ya here case ya missed it over there:

Quote:
Now, if my car 'transformed' into a robot.....then maybe....



Thank you! ;-p

And I would like to take this opportunity to remind some of the naysayers that "it's alive" is perfectly reasonable to say....

I do believe in the movie that followed the trailer, there's a scared shitless, quite confused young lad by the name of Witwicky who is telling his cellphone, regarding his newly purchased - usually inanimate - automobile....

MY CAR! IT'S ALIVE!

When his newly purchased automobile decided to drive out the driveway on its own and proceed to undo itself and stand upright and partake in a rock em sock em autobot match with a - usually inanimate - police car.

Thank you very much. Razz

If I saw King Kong, I'm sure I'd trip on it but given the obvious point it's a large primate, it's sort of moot to blurt out it's alive....it's like, duh, no kidding. The 64 grand question is why the hell is it 10 stories tall and how did it get that way.



True, but then again, if referring to an inanimate object, why would someone say: "It's huge"? If you suddenly see the Washington Monument come to life, you would say: "It's alive!", but not "It's huge!", since the size hasn't changed, making this a moot point. If you wanna warn someone that the WM has come to life, you would say: "It's alive!", and that's it.

I think that the combination of the two indicates that it is something unidentifiable and very big.

"It's alive!" - meaning it's not a bomb, or an earthquake, but some creature (organic? mechanic? hybrid?) that's causing all this.
"It's huge!" - pretty self explanatory, but in this context, it would imply to me that since the viewer cannot identify what he is seeing, he states the two first most obvious things: It's alive! and It's huge!

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Re: [WHOIS] References

tinag222 wrote:




1-18-08 TRAILER TRANSCRIPT

Quote:
Unknown: Quiet...he's coming.
Blonde chick: Guys, he's here. Let's go.

--- PARTY---

Crowd: SURPRISE!
Clueless chick: What is this for?
Unseen Cameraguy: It's for Rob. Say something to him before he leaves.
Blonde chick: Rob's awesome. I'm gonna miss him.
Brunette chick: Rob, have fun in Japan.
Suit guy: You owe me eleven dollars.
Cap guy: How are you gonna survive without Rob, he's like your main dude.
Unseen Cameraguy: I don't know. Hey, how am I gonna survive without you?
Rob: I don't know. I'm like your main dude.

Huge Alive Roaring Thing: Roar

Unseen male: What was that noise?
Girl: Sounded like an animal.
Unseen male: ...just relax ....everything

Tv Reporter: Phone calls are pouring in to the New York One news room...snip...it as a thrundrous roaring sound.

Slusho shirt guy: Think we can see something from the roof?

---ROOF---

Unseen (camera?) guy: What animal sounds like that?

Afro guy: ...it was shaking everywhere, man...it was like tremors.

Unseen (camera?) guy: Looks like you should've left town a little bit earlier.

Huge Alive Roaring Thing: Roar

Female: OH MY GOD!
Male: Go, Go GOO!!

---STREET---

Unseen Female: What is it! Is it coming this way!?
Unseen Male: I saw it, it's alive, it's huge!
Unseen Male: Go...anybody seen Jason, has anyone seen Jason!
Unseen Male: Oh my god! Oh my god! Oh my god!

Suit guy: This is gonna be the best night ever.


Hey, me again.
You forgot something. right before the roar you hear a woman's voice say "The Myth." now what could this mean? could this monster be a myth of sorts?

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triquestra wrote:
the fact that "its alive" was even uttered points to the idea that it is most likely something that would normally be viewed as inanimate. you would only yell "its alive" to describe something that shouldnt be "alive" ( like a statue perhaps) or something that was previously alive that you assumed was dead. which could point to the idea of some members of the party previously experiencing such a thing.

or it could just be one of those things you yell when you dont know what else to say.


btw i'm new here. pleased to meet you all.


i think, by saying its alive, it just simply points out that this isn't an earthquake, or gas line explosion, or airplane divebombing issue. this isn't nature, this is something different. what exactly, will be explained in time.

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Re: [WHOIS] References

Alucard wrote:

Hey, me again.
You forgot something. right before the roar you hear a woman's voice say "The Myth." now what could this mean? could this monster be a myth of sorts?


Timestamp in the trailer? I'm working on my own transcription:

Code:
Trailer transcript:

00:05 - The Paramount logo flickers in and out.
00:05 - Woman#1: "Quiet, I think he's coming. 
00:06 - The Bad Robot logo flickers in and out.

***We are shown a party with people standing around.  Someone operating a handheld camera is recording the festivities.***

00:07 - Woman#1: "Guys, he's here.  Let's go."

***A man(Rob) walks in with his friend close behind.***

00:09 - Everyone: "SURPRISE!!!"  "WOOOO!"

***The handheld camera pans across a banner on the wall that says "WE'LL MISS YOU, ROB"***

***Cuts to people talking, dancing and drinking.***

***A woman at the party looks into the camera and asks a question.***

00:22 - Woman #2: "What is this for?"
00:23 - Cameraman: "It's for Rob."

***Cut back to woman#1.***

00:23 - Cameraman: "Say something to him before he leaves."
00:24 - Woman#1: "Rob's awesome, I'm going to miss him."
00:27 - Woman#3: "Rob, have fun in Japan."
00:28 - Guy#1: "You owe me eleven dollars"
00:30 - Asian Guy: "How are you going to survive without Rob?  He's like your main dude."
00:32 - Cameraman: "I dunno." "Hey, how am I going to survive without you?"
00:35 - Rob: "I dunno, I'm like your main dude."

***ROAR, the lights go out, silence from the partiers***

00:42 - Male Voice#1: "What was that noise?"
00:43 - Female Voice#1: "It sounded like an animal"
00:45 - Male Voice#2: "Me too"
00:46 - Male Voice#3: "Yeah, just relax, everything..."

00:48 - News Reporter: "Phone calls are pouring into the New York 1 news room...  a thunderous roaring sound..."

00:52 - Slusho: "Think we can see if it's up on the roof?"
00:54 - Male Voice#4: "What animal sounds like that?"
00:57 - Black Male#4: "I'm shaking everywhere, man, it's like tremmors"
00:59 - Cameraman: "Looks like you should have left town a little bit earlier."

***ROAR, in the distance, we see a large explosion downtown.***

01:04 - Female voice: "Oh my god!!!"
01:08 - male Voice: "Go! Go! Go!"

***Debris starts falling onto the rooftop, running, screaming, camera cuts to the stairwell and finally the street below.***

01:19 - Female Voice: "What is it?  Is it coming this way?"
01:21 - Male Voice: "I saw it!  It's alive!  It's huge!"
01:25 - Female Voice: "Jason?!"
01:26 - Male Voice: "Has anybody seen Jason?!"
01:26 - Male Voice: "Has anybody seen Jason?!"

***ROAR, The head of the Statue of Liberty is hurled down the road.***

01:37 - Male Voice: "Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god!!!"

From producer J.J. Abrams

01:45 - Guy#1: "Tonight's going to be the best night ever!"

In theaters 1-18-08

Paramount pictures presents
A Bad Robot Production
Executive Producers Guy Riedel Sherryl Clark
Produced By J.J Abrams Bryan Burk
Written By Drew Goddard
Directed by Matt Reeves
Copyright (c) 2007 by paramount pictures. All Rights Reserved.


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Re: [WHOIS] References

Sydcomebak wrote:
Alucard wrote:

Hey, me again.
You forgot something. right before the roar you hear a woman's voice say "The Myth." now what could this mean? could this monster be a myth of sorts?


Timestamp in the trailer? I'm working on my own transcription:

Code:
Trailer transcript:

00:05 - The Paramount logo flickers in and out.
00:05 - Woman#1: "Quiet, I think he's coming. 
00:06 - The Bad Robot logo flickers in and out.

***We are shown a party with people standing around.  Someone operating a handheld camera is recording the festivities.***

00:07 - Woman#1: "Guys, he's here.  Let's go."

***A man(Rob) walks in with his friend close behind.***

00:09 - Everyone: "SURPRISE!!!"  "WOOOO!"

***The handheld camera pans across a banner on the wall that says "WE'LL MISS YOU, ROB"***

***Cuts to people talking, dancing and drinking.***

***A woman at the party looks into the camera and asks a question.***

00:22 - Woman #2: "What is this for?"
00:23 - Cameraman: "It's for Rob."

***Cut back to woman#1.***

00:23 - Cameraman: "Say something to him before he leaves."
00:24 - Woman#1: "Rob's awesome, I'm going to miss him."
00:27 - Woman#3: "Rob, have fun in Japan."
00:28 - Guy#1: "You owe me eleven dollars"
00:30 - Asian Guy: "How are you going to survive without Rob?  He's like your main dude."
00:32 - Cameraman: "I dunno." "Hey, how am I going to survive without you?"
00:35 - Rob: "I dunno, I'm like your main dude."

***ROAR, the lights go out, silence from the partiers***

00:42 - Male Voice#1: "What was that noise?"
00:43 - Female Voice#1: "It sounded like an animal"
00:45 - Male Voice#2: "Me too"
00:46 - Male Voice#3: "Yeah, just relax, everything..."

00:48 - News Reporter: "Phone calls are pouring into the New York 1 news room...  a thunderous roaring sound..."

00:52 - Slusho: "Think we can see if it's up on the roof?"
00:54 - Male Voice#4: "What animal sounds like that?"
00:57 - Black Male#4: "I'm shaking everywhere, man, it's like tremmors"
00:59 - Cameraman: "Looks like you should have left town a little bit earlier."

***ROAR, in the distance, we see a large explosion downtown.***

01:04 - Female voice: "Oh my god!!!"
01:08 - male Voice: "Go! Go! Go!"

***Debris starts falling onto the rooftop, running, screaming, camera cuts to the stairwell and finally the street below.***

01:19 - Female Voice: "What is it?  Is it coming this way?"
01:21 - Male Voice: "I saw it!  It's alive!  It's huge!"
01:25 - Female Voice: "Jason?!"
01:26 - Male Voice: "Has anybody seen Jason?!"
01:26 - Male Voice: "Has anybody seen Jason?!"

***ROAR, The head of the Statue of Liberty is hurled down the road.***

01:37 - Male Voice: "Oh my god, oh my god, oh my god!!!"

From producer J.J. Abrams

01:45 - Guy#1: "Tonight's going to be the best night ever!"

In theaters 1-18-08

Paramount pictures presents
A Bad Robot Production
Executive Producers Guy Riedel Sherryl Clark
Produced By J.J Abrams Bryan Burk
Written By Drew Goddard
Directed by Matt Reeves
Copyright (c) 2007 by paramount pictures. All Rights Reserved.


I am not sure about the time stamp but it is right before the first roar.

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Re: [WHOIS] References

Alucard wrote:
I am not sure about the time stamp but it is right before the first roar.


Nope, don't hear it through my headphones. A woman laughs, but no "Myth."

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Sydcomebak wrote:
Alucard wrote:
I am not sure about the time stamp but it is right before the first roar.


Nope, don't hear it through my headphones. A woman laughs, but no "Myth."


ok
http://youtube.com/watch?v=IvNkGm8mxiM
37-38 seconds into the trailer you hear a woman say "the myth"

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She doesn't actually seem to say anything but her lips are moving, problem there is that we only catch part of the conversation, so it could be anything she is/was saying

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