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[META][TRAILHEAD] 1-18-08: Possible new arg/puzzle?
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Tkar
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 		And...
This just in:

The Number 401 is prime. Its primary significance is found in the sum of the Aleph (1) and Tav (400). It is the Hebrew equivalent of the Alpha and Omega (801) which identifies the Creator. The name of Isaiah, whcih sums to 401, bears witness to the 66 chapters of the Inner Wheel of Isaiah as an image of the Bible within the Bible - complete from Aleph to Tav.

The Number 401 involves the First and the Last - and so resonates with the idea of an octave. This is particularly clear in the Alpha and Omega, but is also seen in the Aleph Tav through the identity Shemunah (Eight) = 401.

http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_401.asp

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 		tkar -

Just to clarify - I totally understand what you are doing, I get it why you went down the trail and watched it open up before you. You focused on the mystery st angle shown 2 times on the fridge. No sweat.

What you failed to do was first establish that mysteryst has any relevance whatsoever beyond fridge sticker. There are lots of things on the fridge but taking one element and running off with it, no matter how much you get on a roll, is ignoring the relevance of the rest, and how ALL elements would fit together, if they do at all...and THEN follow a more relevant specific trail.

You're also forgetting that in the theater where this was aired, we didn't have any ability to rewind and run thru it frame by frame or zoom in...and that places the stuff on the fridge as *background* filler on a prop as what is likely the case. If anything is a clue it's what you can easily see on it in one viewing, whether you "notice" it or not is beside the point - like the slusho shirt. We SEE it, but noticing it was another story.

You going down mystery street came after a frame was captured, zoomed in, enhanced, flipped sideways. It was never intended AS a "clue" to begin with, which makes the research you've done, while reasonable in and of itself and valid, IRRELEVANT to this site, this trailer, this movie. Nobody at any point was able to "read" mystery st sticker on the fridge...we couldn't even read it without enhancing the screencap.

It has no relevance here...so going on and on with the numerical religious stuff is wasting space and time better spent.

Now if characters were outside by a sign with giant red letters behind them that easily said MYSTERY ST, then yeah, or if it was a passing incidental comment, then yeah, worth following or looking into.

But to follow trails from stuff we've had to rip from the trailer and enhance and modify in order to see it or notice it at all is an invalid dead end and waste of time. Unlike the slusho shirt - all it took was a screen cap of the guy turned to the camera and SLUSHO is easily identifiable and then the dots connect...and that is how clues have been laid out.

We saw the trailer first. And we couldn't do anything but watch.

Keep that in mind.

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Tkar
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 		man = 5
devil = 6
god = 7


some old news there...

anyways take time and realize not opinions just findings...

the yog thing was the name of a japanese movie that was made by the same man who worked on pokemon, and designed a monster called Dragon-something. A movie released in japan had his real name while when released in america was titled Yog somthing is what i said...please read

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Tkar wrote:
This just in:

The Number 401 is prime. Its primary significance is found in the sum of the Aleph (1) and Tav (400). It is the Hebrew equivalent of the Alpha and Omega (801) which identifies the Creator. The name of Isaiah, whcih sums to 401, bears witness to the 66 chapters of the Inner Wheel of Isaiah as an image of the Bible within the Bible - complete from Aleph to Tav.

The Number 401 involves the First and the Last - and so resonates with the idea of an octave. This is particularly clear in the Alpha and Omega, but is also seen in the Aleph Tav through the identity Shemunah (Eight) = 401.

http://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_401.asp


Funny thing. I live in NYC, i passed through that area the other night

on that same building where the textile sign is near the bottom, (it is visible in teh trailer), is building address 405. so while 401 was large and prominant, 405 was much more subtle, and probably what we should be looking at.

but if it helps, there are six payphones in teh lobby of 401 bway and it is near chinatown, and just off canal street so a lot of asian themed things are bound to surround the place.

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 		So.

Numbers, huh?

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tinag222 wrote:
tkar -

Just to clarify - I totally understand what you are doing, I get it why you went down the trail and watched it open up before you. You focused on the mystery st angle shown 2 times on the fridge. No sweat.

What you failed to do was first establish that mysteryst has any relevance whatsoever beyond fridge sticker. There are lots of things on the fridge but taking one element and running off with it, no matter how much you get on a roll, is ignoring the relevance of the rest, and how ALL elements would fit together, if they do at all...and THEN follow a more relevant specific trail.

You're also forgetting that in the theater where this was aired, we didn't have any ability to rewind and run thru it frame by frame or zoom in...and that places the stuff on the fridge as *background* filler on a prop as what is likely the case. If anything is a clue it's what you can easily see on it in one viewing, whether you "notice" it or not is beside the point - like the slusho shirt. We SEE it, but noticing it was another story.

You going down mystery street came after a frame was captured, zoomed in, enhanced, flipped sideways. It was never intended AS a "clue" to begin with, which makes the research you've done, while reasonable in and of itself and valid, IRRELEVANT to this site, this trailer, this movie.

Now if characters were outside by a sign with giant red letters behind them that easily said MYSTERY ST, then yeah, or if it was a passing incidental comment, then yeah, worth following or looking into.

But to follow trails from stuff we've had to rip from the trailer and enhance and modify in order to see it or notice it at all is an invalid dead end and waste of time. Unlike the slusho shirt - all it took was a screen cap of the guy turned to the camera and SLUSHO is easily identifiable and then the dots connect...and that is how clues have been laid out.

We saw the trailer first. And we couldn't do anything but watch.

Keep that in mind.



I only got into mystery st becuz someone posted a picture of the real Exit to Mystery Street sign at the 07 jazz fest. Its on the fridge twice, and there is a set of magnet eyes peering at it if i do remember correctly. Since this whole thing is a mystery and i happened to see MYSTERY on th forehead of the woman in revelations, I posted it. That is all. Slusho was not to have thought to be found when abrams wrote to aintitcool.com, so no - slusho was not taken from the theatr, it came after everyone had priated copies of the trailer to work with. I have been following everything cloverfield since the day of. There are many theories out there that I would believe would make more sense than one of revelations.

I am merely pointing out that no one hs yet come up with as many strange connections in one week as I had found when I hit this trail. Perhaps I ccome across as a believer, but that is only becuz I have yet to see it truely debunked.

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 		Irrelevant too

We're all in a theater watching a trailer of stuff outside the building...how many payphones are INSIDE it is mindbogglingly off base and irrelevant.

If we couldn't see it to begin with it isn't a "clue" one way or the other.

I hope your post was intended as a joke...cause you can't be serious.

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Tkar wrote:
I am merely pointing out that no one hs yet come up with as many strange connections in one week as I had found when I hit this trail. Perhaps I ccome across as a believer, but that is only becuz I have yet to see it truely debunked.


This is all very interesting, but there's nothing to debunk. You haven't proven anything. I mean, I enjoy what you've done but let's keep in in perspective.

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 		for those who need some examples of what i mean by code sequences hidden in the music, this was a mystery that floated on the net last year, I dont know if any of you guys saw it, but some people thought they had found evidence of a real spy network getting ready for something.

anyway, you can read about it here and listen to the mp3s and see a way the numbers can be scrambled to hide a message.

http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/05/31/the-212-796-0735-mystery/


the conclusion of it
http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/

it went of for months, and it turned out to be a massive hacker experiment, but understanding this may help us out with the slusho music.

another example I found just googling around, but the person seems to have the right idea about it or basically a good illustration of what i mean, is this walkthrough for some other type of game,

http://ytanium.altervista.org/index.php?gusw=jdspy&gtitle=J.D.%20Spy&l=eng


So hopefully, anyone who has an ear for music might understand what it is im looking for.


thoughts?

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Its on the fridge twice, and there is a set of magnet eyes peering at it if i do remember correctly.


Yes it was, absolutely. But ignoring the reality this was released for public consumption in a movie theater to begin with, and that even from that giant screen perspective YOU COULD NOT MAKE OUT THE SMALL STUFF AT ALL to begin with, then it's irrelevant, it's background, it's prop.

Sure there's a sign for it, and this all came AFTER the theater airing when nobody SAW it, let alone noticed it...and the video was available and we were taking frames out and enlaging small blurry stuff in backgrounds and enlarged the stickers 100x just to read what it said at all. Now if it was a valid, relevant clue it would've been positioned in such as way as the slusho shirt, that you'd SEE it regardless of whether it had any associative value to you. You don't have to do anything to the film. You just have to connect the dots.

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Since this whole thing is a mystery and i happened to see MYSTERY on th forehead of the woman in revelations, I posted it. That is all.


Which makes this entirely 100% subjective to your own interpretations and has zero relevance to the stuff of the trailer that nobody *could* see to begin with without completely manipulating the film/video frames which NONE of us were able to do in the theater.


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Slusho was not to have thought to be found when abrams wrote to aintitcool.com, so no - slusho was not taken from the theatr, it came after everyone had priated copies of the trailer to work with.


And I remind you again how this is relevant. It did not come from manipulating ripped frames that were too small to see naturally. It came from a simple NORMAL viewing of the trailer and someone NOTICING what they were SEEING NORMALLY - that a guy was in a slusho shirt. The association was made 2 ways:

1. by others who were familiar with Alias (who likely caught it right off) and sharing this with those who were not familiar with Abrams or Alias and
2. by others having seen the LA posters of a film shoot dubbed slusho.

PERIOD.

That led normally to www.slusho.com and here we are.

Connection made.

Had we been forced to enhance the guy's black shirt to the point of transparency to see what his underwear tag was and it kinda looked like and icee / slurpie, that's not a valid trail and you can research all you want on underwear tags but it has zero relevance here. It just doesn't.


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I have been following everything cloverfield since the day of. There are many theories out there that I would believe would make more sense than one of revelations.


So why not focus your skills on something that's related to what we know and have confirmed as a trail at all?

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I am merely pointing out that no one hs yet come up with as many strange connections in one week as I had found when I hit this trail


That's because it's an irrelevant trail and most people are able to recognize that and not waste time on it.

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 		Smoke
Hold it - has no one noticed the monster emerging from the smoke. Someone posted a video that saw it and I could clearly see a form or shape of a head coming out of the dust. Something I also had thought of when I first saw the Smoke thing was that instead of that random guy "I saw it it's alive, it's HUGE!!!!!" talking about an enaninimate object, mabye he was Yelling in shock because the dust was alive??? "THE DUST IS ALIVE OMGSDHGFNGVIE!!!!!" may have been what he was thinkin.

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Hold it - has no one noticed the monster emerging from the smoke. Someone posted a video that saw it and I could clearly see a form or shape of a head coming out of the dust. Something I also had thought of when I first saw the Smoke thing was that instead of that random guy "I saw it it's alive, it's HUGE!!!!!" talking about an enaninimate object, mabye he was Yelling in shock because the dust was alive??? "THE DUST IS ALIVE OMGSDHGFNGVIE!!!!!" may have been what he was thinkin.


I hope you are joking because that was photoshopped.

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rhialto wrote:
So.

Numbers, huh?


Dude, seriously.

If you multiply 7 (the number for god and one less than the number on the creepy girl's shirt) by 42 (the meaning of life and also the result of 7 (the number of god and one less than the number on the creepy girl's shirt) times 6 (the number we keep seeing in the trailer and the number of the beast) and add you get 2058.

take 2058 and add the date 1-18-08 as a number and you get 13866.

but remember, there was also the number 2007 featured in the trailer. so add 2007 to 13866 and you get 15873.

treat each number as a letter of the alphabet and you get AEHGC.

now use the letters on the graffiti (ACE) and you get ACEAEHGC.

an anagram for these letters is GAME HACK!

this totally proves that the movie is about the bible, hitchiker's guide to the galaxy, and that there is a code in the trailer that we haven't picked up on.

COME ON PEOPLE, it says GAME HACK right there. get to work, we're obviously missing some important clue to let us hack into this ARG!!!

Rolling Eyes

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 		I kind of dropped out right when we found slusho.com Any place I could read up on what's happened since then?

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KLind wrote:
I kind of dropped out right when we found slusho.com Any place I could read up on what's happened since then?


The information is pretty much scattered around this thread so it will be hard.

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