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[META][TRAILHEAD] 1-18-08: Possible new arg/puzzle?
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rhialto
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LordAcoustic wrote:
I've read most of this, but not all of it so sorry if the significance has already been determine, but can you tell me when is it 63 degrees in January in New York. This, I think, is a pretty obvious clue.

Anyone?


It is unusably warm, but not a world record or anything. It might be a clue to the plot, but it's not a clue that's going to get us anywhere on-line.

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Tkar
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LordAcoustic wrote:
I've read most of this, but not all of it so sorry if the significance has already been determine, but can you tell me when is it 63 degrees in January in New York. This, I think, is a pretty obvious clue.

Anyone?



Yes, I have mentioned it and it's a GREAT CLUE I am sure. You can't hide all your clues or you will leave out the more simple minded hunters and gamers and people in general. Anyone who does not think it being 63 degrees at midnight in NYC in January is about 63 degrees off kilter, lol.

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AQueryan wrote:
Hey, can someone confirm whether or not the alleged JJ Abrams correspondence sent to Knowles at AICN has been corroborated from another source as being authentic? It seems that everyone simply assumes that it must be legit based solely on an AICN posting. Unless, of course, I'm out of the loop regarding some other established intelligence.

I just heard it was confirmed I dont know about these other guys though

So the Abrams correspondence hasn't actually been authenticated by an outside source?

The only reason I ask is that - and this has nothing to do with the "rat's ass" phrase - the correspondence just doesn't feel right upon further review. So un(til/less) I get a third party source to confirm its authenticity, I, for one, am unwilling to accept the validity of the alleged Abrams message sent to Knowles.

PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:03 pm
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If I may make an observation here, at this point.

ARGs are stories, pure and simple. They are extremely difficult to write, and rely on strong characterization and a well-created backdrop to play in.

At this time, we do not have the minimum necessary for this game to be considered "active." A good ARG (heck, even a bad ARG) will have an invitation that opens the door to the first bread crumb. Our invitation could have been the Slusho shirt - smart money is on that.

However, I believe the ARG is not yet started - the bread crumb is not yet "out of the oven" so to speak.

That bread crumb needs a very, very low barrier to entry. Think of this like an author - he needs to suck you into the story, then he needs to flesh out his characters so you care about them. After this comes plot, backstory, twists and turns. You simply can't do this much different without losing your audience.

We got sucked into the story - with a bang. Now, the storyteller needs to introduce the characters with which we will interact. These characters will be archetypical in many ways - they won't be presented as complex until we proceed down the rabbit hole for quite a while.

Our next clue will likely be on the order of a Slusho shirt in a single frame. It will not be something that requires specialized knowledge or esoteric research to achieve.

Those things may very well happen, but only after the stage is set and we have met the characters.

Please continue to be polite and supportive of one another, but also remember that we are not yet in an ARG yet, and we have no reason to believe it has started.

Newer players may want to look up the cloudmakers.org archives and see how an ARG unfolds. The Beast was the template on which most ARGs have been stamped, and even if you believe this one will slaughter sacred cows in ARG design, it still has to adhere to basic rules of storytelling and entertainment.

Does that mean we give up trying to research


I wouldn't give up, but I would keep in mind that any revelations you get should be based through a "this is obvious to almost anyone who looks at it" filter.

If I was to continue working on this right now, I would check up on:

ftp.slusho.jp
using resources like IMDB to see which characters at the party are "relevant" to the basic story and those which are not.
Obvious patterns, such as "every website associated with Slusho has the same letter in the upper left corner."
Advertisements for related products to this one (Paramount products, known corporate allies)
Further heavy-handed statements by the principals, like JJ Abram's words to Harry Knowles

Our next clue could, for instance, be on the Late Show, where a guest will face the camera and "say hi to my friend Rob Snyder from New York. How's the drink business going?" or something like that.

Finally, just because the ARG is not "primed" with an obvious go-sign for us to proceed doesn't mean that the pieces aren't in place and waiting for us - we could still find something before they are "ready." Many interesting ARGs have had players claim-jump ahead in the story. Puppetmasters need to be aware of this potential and plan accordingly, as I am sure they are doing.

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AQueryan wrote:
Person Guy wrote:
AQueryan wrote:
Hey, can someone confirm whether or not the alleged JJ Abrams correspondence sent to Knowles at AICN has been corroborated from another source as being authentic? It seems that everyone simply assumes that it must be legit based solely on an AICN posting. Unless, of course, I'm out of the loop regarding some other established intelligence.

I just heard it was confirmed I dont know about these other guys though

So the Abrams correspondence hasn't actually been authenticated by an outside source?

The only reason I ask is that - and this has nothing to do with the "rat's ass" phrase - the correspondence just doesn't feel right upon further review. So un(til/less) I get a third party source to confirm its authenticity, I, for one, am unwilling to accept the validity of the alleged Abrams message sent to Knowles.

I dont really know enough to get that deep into it (dont know nothing actually, lol) but if this is about ethan haas, he is related to an upcoming video game I think...

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rhialto
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AQueryan wrote:
Person Guy wrote:
AQueryan wrote:
Hey, can someone confirm whether or not the alleged JJ Abrams correspondence sent to Knowles at AICN has been corroborated from another source as being authentic? It seems that everyone simply assumes that it must be legit based solely on an AICN posting. Unless, of course, I'm out of the loop regarding some other established intelligence.

I just heard it was confirmed I dont know about these other guys though

So the Abrams correspondence hasn't actually been authenticated by an outside source?

The only reason I ask is that - and this has nothing to do with the "rat's ass" phrase - the correspondence just doesn't feel right upon further review. So un(til/less) I get a third party source to confirm its authenticity, I, for one, am unwilling to accept the validity of the alleged Abrams message sent to Knowles.


Good for you, but you're being silly. If someone lied about Abrams I think he would have said something. Abrams and Knowels know each other as well. I guess if you're waiting for Abrams to come to your house and give you the scoop, good luck with that.

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JimmieBJr
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AQueryan wrote:
Hey, can someone confirm whether or not the alleged JJ Abrams correspondence sent to Knowles at AICN has been corroborated from another source as being authentic? It seems that everyone simply assumes that it must be legit based solely on an AICN posting. Unless, of course, I'm out of the loop regarding some other established intelligence.


tinag222 e-mailed Knowles about it. He said he's knowsn Abrams for about 9 years, has interviewed him often, and believes the e-mail to be true and authentic.
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JimmieBJr
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Does that mean we give up trying to research


What would you be researching?

You can't just run around grabbing any old tenuous link and calling it evidence of anything.

There are some things that are out of place in what we've seen this far. We have plenty to look at there.

Looking at a few numbers and saying "AHA!" then running down rabbit holes doesn't do you any good. It keeps you busy, sure, but that's all it does.
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JimmieBJr
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LordAcoustic wrote:
I've read most of this, but not all of it so sorry if the significance has already been determine, but can you tell me when is it 63 degrees in January in New York. This, I think, is a pretty obvious clue.

Anyone?


It's unusual, but not unheard of.

The record high for January 18 in NYC is 68 degrees, as I recall (I looked it up a couple days ago and posted it in one of the threads). That was in 1990, only 17 years ago.

Also, the record high for January in NYC is 71 degrees. It's not out of the realm of the possible for the city to have a couple warm days in a row and not have it cool down all that much by midnight. The "heat island effect" can be a real bear when it comes to temperatures.
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 		Hey folks, another new member here. Just spent the past 2 days reading the whole thread.

Anyone else having trouble connecting to the IRC channel right now? I tried via mIRC and the java applet linked a few pages back, but neither of them will connect to the server.

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Tkar
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 		Searching sephora and bible brought me to Sephora being translated into Sephra, and Sarah

Sephora was married to Moses. I hate this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ten_Commandments_(1956_film)

Oddly enough, the first paragraph mentions Paramount and how the Ten Commandments held the highest grossing Christian themed movie until the Passion of the Christ in 2004. Now the Passion is the Ace (numero uno) in the christ movie dept. Could Abrams be aiming at such a goal?

Now I am stretching it further and further, and will attempt to stop. FOr all our sakes.

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Tkar wrote:
Searching sephora and bible brought me to Sephora being translated into Sephra, and Sarah

Sephora was married to Moses. I hate this.


Stop looking at Bible references. Please.

I don't know where your fixation on the Bible and this game has come from, but it's not supported by what we've seen.
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fishysticks wrote:
I for one am going to laugh hysterically if while Slusho! is part of the game, and ends up pointing us somewhere else- it has absolutely nothing to do with the movie other than having someone wear the shirt.
I do think it would be kind of lame if some Slurpee wanna-be drink mutated its consumers into huge SOL head wielding monsters (which i've read numerous times).

and Tinag, even if you aren't crapping all over everyones ideas in your mind.. you are extremely hostile, and for no reason.
No matter where you go, people don't read and they don't listen and they have their own thoughts. Ignore them, and get on with whatever important research you happen to be doing.
We dont think that Rolling Eyes Shocked We do however think that maybee a diving expedition goes wrong causing someone to mutate out of control and become what attacks New York New York. Or a story damned close to it.

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 		The temp in and of itself isn't summer weather tho. It's mild. If you stop and consider, 60s is the neutral temp, not too cold, not too hot, just right. 60s get chilly with wind. 70s - perfect.

And re the email from Abrams, I covered that on the timeline thread for the official record, however, if you are relucant to believe my report from when I emailed Knowles, or Knowles's article presenting the email from Abrams, nothing is stopping you from emailing Knowles yourself and asking the question....

He responded to me in about 45 minutes roughly...he answered the question up front without any crap or fluff. Meanwhile I browsed the site checking out how it was presented, the general feel, the stuff I knew already was truth and saw that he didn't seem to make up shit as he went along, the site seemed credible to me. So did the reply.

Can I prove it was the truth? Of course not. It's an email from somebody on the net. In context of what we're doing here, it was enough to settle it for me. Plus, the same issue on the religious stuff I had with the Ethan Haas stuff before the email was even posted: not a shred of anything linked it to 1-18...

If this is not enough for ya, you can send an email as easily as I can.

Mileage may vary.

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JimmieBJr wrote:
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Does that mean we give up trying to research


What would you be researching?

You can't just run around grabbing any old tenuous link and calling it evidence of anything.

There are some things that are out of place in what we've seen this far. We have plenty to look at there.

Looking at a few numbers and saying "AHA!" then running down rabbit holes doesn't do you any good. It keeps you busy, sure, but that's all it does.

You dont, technically, need fact to research, a person could research on something with no factual background, but its still researching-pointless research but research in the end.

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