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[META][TRAILHEAD] 1-18-08: Possible new arg/puzzle?
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JimmieBJr
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fishysticks wrote:
I for one am going to laugh hysterically if while Slusho! is part of the game, and ends up pointing us somewhere else- it has absolutely nothing to do with the movie other than having someone wear the shirt.


An example using the Mother of All ARGs, The Beast.

It was loosely based on the movie A.I. and was set, as I remember, after the point when the little robot boy went underwater.

The game didn't actually reference the movie at all (or perhaps just once, though a minor character) except to use the trailer for the movie as the event that pushed the initial clues to the players. And when it happened it wasn't a sense of "Hey, look! A game!". It was more like "Did you see that name in the credits? It looked strange so I poked around the 'net and found this web site. Take a look, would you?". Beyond that, the movie only established the "end state" of the world. The game had to adhere to "history" as the movie had determined it, but beyond that, they were separate entities. In fact, I played along with the game for months and didn't see the movie until a year or so later.

It would not surprise me if this was the case here as well.
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 		Libation
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The Story of Slusho states that "Noriko loved libations." Meaning the noun of course, being the love of tasting new things, yet there is also a city in New York called Libation. Since, of course the Trailer (and probably the movie) is based in New York I thought this might have been a clue??? Confused

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JimmieBJr
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 		Re: ??
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You dont, technically, need fact to research, a person could research on something with no factual background, but its still researching-pointless research but research in the end.


Exactly so.

What I'm saying is that, absent any concrete clue, the research into these nooks and crannies is pointless. You can do it if you like, but it doesn't really mean anything. It could be harmful because it clutters things up here.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 10:35 pm
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 		used search couldn't find this. It's not new info, just an article I ran across.



Friday, July 13, 2007
Get more 1-18-08 (Cloverfield) news

If I learned one thing from playing Nintendo games in the '80s and early '90s is that the adventure is more fun than the end of the game. I'd play hours upon hours to win countless games that just end with a lousy 'congratulations'. Although things have gotten better technologically, things are pretty much the same as it's always been about the adventure of playing and not the finale. This past year a new step has been added to the process... it's called viral marketing. After the success of Nine Inch Nails' campaign for Year Zero, Paramount Pictures and JJ Abrams have stepped in with the same idea for their untiled horror film, which is going under various names "Cloverfield", "1-18-08" and now... "Slusho"? Read on for the next step in viral madness.


Alright, you know how Cloverfield/1-18-08 is going viral? Paramount releases the trailer attached to Transformers, there's camcorder versions of it uploaded to video sharing sites, officially no one is talking about the project…

And then IGN reports that Cloverfield/1-18-08 may be using the alias of "Slusho" for the filming of a Paramount movie happening right now in L.A. The set calls for "200 extras. Military vehicles. Destruction aftermath. Weapons brandished. Emergency vehicles with flashing lights. Exterior dialogue on fire escape on 8th floor."

And then J.J. Abrams chimes in to Ain't It Cool News and drops this bomb: "For what it's worth, the only site of ours that people have even FOUND is the 1-18-08.com site. The others (like the Ethan Haas sites) have nothing to do with us."

Then explain this J.J. 'cuz it's smoking gun proof that a weird beverage website marketing a drink called Slusho belongs to your new movie:

That's a screengrab from the 1-18-08 trailer, right before the action moves to the rooftop. See that dude's shirt? Slusho. And the logo looks exactly like the drink found on the Slusho website:

Holy crap!

It gets weirder: read the history page on the Slusho website. It talks about a woman named Noriko that wanted to discover a new beverage flavor. Noriko set out across the ocean and was never heard from again. Her son, Ganu, grew up and continued his mother's research...exploring the ocean for possible flavors.

Did you get that? The ocean.

And then one day Ganu "discovered a deep sea ingredient unique to anything else." He had a mysterious dream and realized that he had found the secret beverage flavor...and thus Slusho was born.

Slusho. From the bottom of the sea floor.

Hey, H.P. Lovecraft fans, what other thing did you read about that likes to dream and can be found at the bottom of the ocean floor?

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 		Re: Libation
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Person Guy wrote:
The Story of Slusho states that "Noriko loved libations." Meaning the noun of course, being the love of tasting new things, yet there is also a city in New York called Libation. Since, of course the Trailer (and probably the movie) is based in New York I thought this might have been a clue??? Confused


You're kidding... right?

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Person Guy
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 		Re: ??
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JimmieBJr wrote:
Person Guy wrote:

You dont, technically, need fact to research, a person could research on something with no factual background, but its still researching-pointless research but research in the end.


Exactly so.

What I'm saying is that, absent any concrete clue, the research into these nooks and crannies is pointless. You can do it if you like, but it doesn't really mean anything. It could be harmful because it clutters things up here.

LOL!! Laughing earlier I asked if, because it was pointless, should we just give up on looking into them

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 		Actually hostile isn't the word.

More like dumb shock people can just take all leave of common sense. The ones who think I'm being hostile or shitting on ideas are caught up in their own personal insecurities.

I'm responding to text on a forum, not anyone personally. And the text being presented desperately groping for a religious link is just off the mark. Why is it you'd consider it hostile over constructive or helpful critique trying to help you get back down on the ground where the actual trails are?

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rhialto
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LOL!! Laughing earlier I asked if, because it was pointless, should we just give up on looking into them


Yes.

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 		Re: Libation
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rhialto wrote:
Person Guy wrote:
The Story of Slusho states that "Noriko loved libations." Meaning the noun of course, being the love of tasting new things, yet there is also a city in New York called Libation. Since, of course the Trailer (and probably the movie) is based in New York I thought this might have been a clue??? Confused


You're kidding... right?



Why does every body reply like that to me... anyway kidding about what?? Enlighten me! lol

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 		01-18-08.com site down?
Seems the http://01-18-08.com/ server may be getting slammed. I just went there and instead of the flash page I got an error page-

Failure of server APACHE bridge:

No backend server available for connection: timed out after 10 seconds or idempotent set to OFF.
Build date/time: Jun 16 2006 15:14:16

Change Number: 779586


Then I refreshed and got this-


Error 404--Not Found
From RFC 2068 Hypertext Transfer Protocol -- HTTP/1.1:
10.4.5 404 Not Found

The server has not found anything matching the Request-URI. No indication is given of whether the condition is temporary or permanent.

If the server does not wish to make this information available to the client, the status code 403 (Forbidden) can be used instead. The 410 (Gone) status code SHOULD be used if the server knows, through some internally configurable mechanism, that an old resource is permanently unavailable and has no forwarding address.

I took a look-see at the source and it was on the up and up, nothing odd.
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 		Re: 01-18-08.com site down?
grendelsden wrote:
Seems the http://01-18-08.com/ server may be getting slammed. I just went there and instead of the flash page I got an error page-

Failure of server APACHE bridge:

No backend server available for connection: timed out after 10 seconds or idempotent set to OFF.
Build date/time: Jun 16 2006 15:14:16

Change Number: 779586


Then I refreshed and got this-



Error 404--Not Found
From RFC 2068 Hypertext Transfer Protocol -- HTTP/1.1:
10.4.5 404 Not Found

The server has not found anything matching the Request-URI. No indication is given of whether the condition is temporary or permanent.

If the server does not wish to make this information available to the client, the status code 403 (Forbidden) can be used instead. The 410 (Gone) status code SHOULD be used if the server knows, through some internally configurable mechanism, that an old resource is permanently unavailable and has no forwarding address.

I took a look-see at the source and it was on the up and up, nothing odd.


Hm... It werks for me

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 		Re: 01-18-08.com site down?
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Hm... It werks for me


It's intermittent. As I reload the page I get the site, or the error message, or the site simply hangs trying to reload. My guess it's a server load issue on their end, which makes sence considering the amount of hits they are probably receiving.
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 		Re: Libation
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Person Guy wrote:
The Story of Slusho states that "Noriko loved libations." Meaning the noun of course, being the love of tasting new things, yet there is also a city in New York called Libation. Since, of course the Trailer (and probably the movie) is based in New York I thought this might have been a clue??? Confused


Pease forgive me for picking on you. I don't mean anything cruel in doing so. Accept it in the good spirit in which I offer it. Smile

This is a great example of what we've been talking about. Yes, the history says "Noriko loved libations". A "libation" is a drink poured out in offering to the Gods. There's even a Shinto (Japanese!) libation ceremony called "Miki". AHA, you might say. A clue! And you head over to your favorite search engine and start looking up stuff and trying to connect the "God" thing to what we've seen. Well, that big thing could be a God of the Deep. Lovecraft mentioned that the Great Old Ones, especially Cthulhu, was worshipped as a God by a cult. And one of his stories "The Horror at Red Hook" took place, in part, underground in Red Hook, Brooklyn, New York City. Red Hook, incidentally, is just southwest of both Liberty Island where the SOL is and Manhattan (draw a line from Liberty Island to Governor's Island, and if you extend it, it'll pass through Red Hook) Further research would show you that, while it's not specifically part of the Cthulhu cycle of stories by Lovecraft, Alan Moore liked it enough to borrow liberally from it for a graphic novel and story of his own. We've also seen that J.J. Abrams is a huge fan of Alan Moore, going so far as wanting very much to make a movie adaptation of Moore's Watchmen comics.

How likely is that, though. Where does it lead? What further clues does it reveal? Most importantly, how firmly does it tie into anything else we've found?

Now, it could be that this great little chain of stuff I just wrote up (all of it true, by the way) could end up being part of the game. But right now there's little basis for thinking it is beyond a chain of coincidences.

But consider this... "Libation" is also slang for any sort of drink, most often used to refer to alcoholic drinks. And the Slusho site is rife with bad English and misused words and phrases. Is it more likely that the word "libation" is something coughed out of a translation program or used by someone who has only a little understanding of English (Look at the "all your base..." translation from the Zero Wing game for a great example of bad translation)?

I think we have to use Occam's Razor here until we find a good reason not to.
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okay im just throwing this out there and please forgive me if anyones alrdy tryied this and posted but has anyone tried going to the sites at those times? both the 1-18-08 and slusho?

I figured the best time to try would be eastern time seeing that it is set in ny.

again sorry if someones tried this alrdy.

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 		Re: Libation
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JimmieBJr wrote:
Person Guy wrote:
The Story of Slusho states that "Noriko loved libations." Meaning the noun of course, being the love of tasting new things, yet there is also a city in New York called Libation. Since, of course the Trailer (and probably the movie) is based in New York I thought this might have been a clue??? Confused


Pease forgive me for picking on you. I don't mean anything cruel in doing so. Accept it in the good spirit in which I offer it. Smile

This is a great example of what we've been talking about. Yes, the history says "Noriko loved libations". A "libation" is a drink poured out in offering to the Gods. There's even a Shinto (Japanese!) libation ceremony called "Miki". AHA, you might say. A clue! And you head over to your favorite search engine and start looking up stuff and trying to connect the "God" thing to what we've seen. Well, that big thing could be a God of the Deep. Lovecraft mentioned that the Great Old Ones, especially Cthulhu, was worshipped as a God by a cult. And one of his stories "The Horror at Red Hook" took place, in part, underground in Red Hook, Brooklyn, New York City. Red Hook, incidentally, is just southwest of both Liberty Island where the SOL is and Manhattan (draw a line from Liberty Island to Governor's Island, and if you extend it, it'll pass through Red Hook) Further research would show you that, while it's not specifically part of the Cthulhu cycle of stories by Lovecraft, Alan Moore liked it enough to borrow liberally from it for a graphic novel and story of his own. We've also seen that J.J. Abrams is a huge fan of Alan Moore, going so far as wanting very much to make a movie adaptation of Moore's Watchmen comics.

How likely is that, though. Where does it lead? What further clues does it reveal? Most importantly, how firmly does it tie into anything else we've found?

Now, it could be that this great little chain of stuff I just wrote up (all of it true, by the way) could end up being part of the game. But right now there's little basis for thinking it is beyond a chain of coincidences.

But consider this... "Libation" is also slang for any sort of drink, most often used to refer to alcoholic drinks. And the Slusho site is rife with bad English and misused words and phrases. Is it more likely that the word "libation" is something coughed out of a translation program or used by someone who has only a little understanding of English (Look at the "all your base..." translation from the Zero Wing game for a great example of bad translation)?

I think we have to use Occam's Razor here until we find a good reason not to.


My point was the city Libation, in New York but now that I think about it, it wouldnt make much sense

P.S. there is another meaning to libation... look it up on wiki

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