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JimmieBJr
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neiana wrote:
I don't... it's statement, sure, but it's a statement of curiosity. I just left out the insanely overused "yup, uh huh, it's true I give it 5 stars" 'cuz that all makes it sound ridiculous.

So...listen to it. I can't say it's "the myth" but I'm certain it's not anything said by any of the characters. It sounds like part of the growl but it sounds so different from the second part.

When considering the slusho story, and someone's reference to FFX saying that Noriko "went all sin," it just makes sense. My opinion & spec. of course, that Rob is the son & slusho shirt guy is the cousin.

Mother's home...


the only reason I asked is because this is where we put the stuff that's confirmed - the reference stuff. The speculative stuff goes in the really big thread. No worries. I just wanted to make sure. Smile

I'm still not hearing that voice thing. I've listened to that part of the trailer until my ears hurt (because..well..it's hard to jigger the volume before the brain-melting roar happens). I'm sad. Sad
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Pretty important AICN report

I haven't seen this posted here yet, so:

AICN RUMOR CONTROL on 01-18-08

And for those of you to lazy to click over to the link, here's the report you'll find there.

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RUMOR CONTROL! Let's Talk About CLOVERFIELD/SLUSHO/1-18-08!
Hey, everyone. "Moriarty" here.

If we're going to talk rumors about INDY 4 this morning, we've definitely got to spend a little time talking about CLOVERFIELD.

Now, before you say, "well, how do we know you know anything?!", let's take a look back at the first mention of the film here on the site. On June 21st, before the first screening of TRANSFORMERS with the trailer attached, before anyone outside of Paramount had mentioned word one about the film anywhere, we broke the entire story here on the site. Check it out for yourself.

That story was also used to challenge the veracity of a blog that claimed to be about the production of THE DARK TOWER. I've since learned that the guy who ran that blog may well have been hired to be on an Abrams film... just not the one he thought he was working on. That may have been the first leak on CLOVERFIELD, but he didn't know enough to make it worthwhile. I followed up this piece with more details on June 25th, and together, those two stories became the basis of almost everything you've read since.

When I wrote that story, I didn't realize that Abrams was going to be pursuing a sort of veil of complete secrecy around the film, and I didn't know he'd be creating a game leading up to the release. I actually feel bad that we sort of spelled it out as completely as we did. The one thing that he should be happy about is that no one really knew what the hell CLOVERFIELD was, so they didn't read the article when I ran it. It certainly didn't set the world on fire until people saw the trailer themselves, at which point we got flooded with e-mails asking, "What is that trailer? Why don't you know anything about it yet?"

Well, 90% of everything that's out there now came from one source, guys. Me. I broke the following facts about CLOVERFIELD exclusively: The title being a cover. It being a giant monster movie shot as if from a hand-held video camera. The low budget on the movie. The fact that Drew Goddard is writing it, and that Matt Reeves is directing it. The fact that the creature is nicknamed "the Parasite" by those working on the film. I described the trailer beat-for-beat before anyone outside the studio had seen it.

And yet nobody is citing us as the source of that information. Check out this asshole. And, yes, I just called you an asshole, Kirk Montgomery, because you've passed off other people's work of the last two weeks as some sort of exclusive on your part. You didn't learn anything "exclusively," since everything in your article is regurgitated from other sources. You're not the first person to simply re-run the information we broke about the movie in the past ten days, but you make it sound in your article like no one else anywhere has already written about the viral marketing sites or the way it's being shot or the budget. There's not a single piece of new reportage in your piece, and the way you try to make it sound like you somehow broke this wide open makes you... well... an asshole.

I don't blame him, though. I'm sure he was told to write a story about this by his editor, and that's because this has become a huge deal very quickly. Already, we're starting to see some backlash in the talkbacks, as people talk about the film being overhyped. Fandom moves so fast these days that they're starting to reject movies that are still shooting based solely on things like release dates or their own illogical expectations. Case in point: the way people started to get really attached to their pet theories about what this film is. "It's VOLTRON!" "No, it's a LOST tie-in!" "It's not a movie at all! It's just a LOST season four promo!" "No, it's GODZILLA!" "No, it's C'thulu!"

And when it turns out to be none of those things, fans are going to hold it against the movie, as if they were promised something. But they weren't. They've been projecting, and they've gotten invested in their own ideas, and now they're going to be mad when the film isn't what they decided it should be.

Relax. Seriously. In a way, I don't think JJ Abrams had any idea how much his teaser would set people off, but in another way, I think he got exactly what he wanted.

I have a theory about Abrams. I think he was a biiiiiig fan of Disneyland growing up. One of the great things about going to Disney (I lived near Orlando as a kid, so I always think about the Magic Kingdom when I think of the parks) is the way they don't just have rides. The rides actually begin the moment you step into the park. Everything on the property is about setting a mood, getting you ready for the rides. When you're standing in line, you get gradually immersed in these environments that drop you into the world you're about to visit. Like the grave stones outside the Haunted Mansion or the docks on the Jungle Cruise or the ramps up into Space Mountain. You start the ride before you start the ride, and I think that sums up the attitude JJ Abrams and Bad Robot have towards entertainment now. Don't scream at Abrams that he owes you all the answers right now. He doesn't. Not yet. He's got six months to go before this film comes out, so all he's trying to do is get you intrigued. Hooked a bit. I'd say he more than accomplished that task. Now let him give you the bread crumbs as a game, and enjoy it. You'll get onto the ride soon enough, and then it'll be over, and why rush that? Why not enjoy the build-up?

When you get overexcited, you get an Ethan Haas situation, and people spend a lot of energy that they shouldn't spend in the wrong direction. To be clear, all the Ethan Haas sites are interesting and well-coordinated, but none of them have anything to do with CLOVERFIELD. Instead, they are marketing for an upcoming game called ALPHA OMEGA by Mindstorm Labs. Cool stuff, but it's not connected to the film at all.

I think the one thing that's undisputable about the trailer is that it worked. It got people talking. Not putting a title on the teaser was a genius idea, and someone deserves a promotion for that one touch. I think that, more than anything, got people buzzing. People seem intrigued at the idea of a whole film being shot like that, and that's pretty much what you'll get. The film starts with a rescue crew cleaning up after the entire incident, and one of them finds a camera. They rewind the tape, press play... and the playback is the movie that unfolds.

I promise... we'll keep you updated as more things break on this one, but for now, I think people are actually overanalyzing and they're starting to invent things, create sites to support their crazy theories, and it's all turning into such an overwhelming sound that it's going to start to turn some people off.

Me? I'm excited and intrigued, and I look forward to learning more about the film as it develops.


(moderator putting quote tags around the article to clarify who is speaking -- catherwood)

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Well, that article went farther than I expected on clearing up the credibility issue of AICN....works for me.

And now...just to gloat a little teeensy tiny bit....then I will quit.

The film starts with a rescue crew cleaning up after the entire incident, and one of them finds a camera. They rewind the tape, press play... and the playback is the movie that unfolds.

If that is true, then

HAH. What I said:

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July 8
Excellent game potential here to tell us the story or feed it to us as a game, by adding these stills and we work out, from THEIR prspective what they're experiencing. Blair Witch did this too recall. Perhaps it will be AFTER this event Jan 18 that the camcorders and video phones are discovered and from developing their content we begin to piece together this event, the story of the people who are on the videos, and what happened in NY on Jan 18.

We find it "after the fact" and have to go back and figure out what happened....and likely how that impacts us as "survivors" or something.

Based ONLY on the way 1-18 has been presented, that's a far more probable scenario as to what this could be about than some young guy who cannot spell named Van being from the future and forming a resistance out of a flash puzzle


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I think it's probably a lot easier than we are giving it credit for, w/clues being hidden in the trailer. Now, seriously, what significance, if any, does the number '11' have? Remember guy saying Rob owes him '11' dollars? Who owes someone a number like 11 dollars? 10? 20? 15?...but 11?? This seems like a clue to me.

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11 dollars -

Well to avoid making it more convoluted than it needs to be, why not go with the obvious alternatives:

Rob lost an 11 dollar bet and hasn't paid up yet
Rob was short on cash and guy spotted him some and Rob hasn't paid up yet....

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if you multiply 11 with 6, you get 66!!!

OMG this is sooo evil! Now I'm definitely scared! Wink

no sorry i don't want to waste your ideas, it's just fun

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Or Rob called up a super-powerful Japanese creature to kill the guy he owed $11 to.

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Or Rob called up a super-powerful Japanese creature to kill the guy he owed $11 to


lmao


Right - the pissed off invisible Al Gore whale Razz

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Alias Slusho Episode

That's it?
That's it.

Anybody notice anything curiOus? Razz

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Who is to say the AINT IT COOL site is credible to begin with?

I have no experience with the site, but it's not uncommon for someone to get their hands on a movie pre-release. This movie may possibly have the previews on it. So, someone watched the previews and opened their mouth, and it gets around to someone who is going to try to claim it as being an inside source.

I have watched the preview frame-by-frame. I have watched it forwards, backwards, sections of it over and over again. I have seen nothing that suggests an actual huge "monster" is the thing causing the explosions and such. There's 2 massive roars, a gigantic explosion, and the Statue's head thrown through the city.

I've followed a lot of this hype for the last week. I've been on dozens of different websites, followed false leads, gone off on a complete other tangent before coming back on path.

Personally though, I have never seen a "monster" movie with a gigantic explosion that sends exploding shrapnel into the air. But there's a first for everything.

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Yeah but that's the assumption is that a monster's doing it.

If it's blowing up stuff, my wager is the military - namely ours - is already involved and trying to kill it...with big hard my missile's way bigger than your missile style overly inflated with testosterone kinda weapons.... Rolling Eyes

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tinag222 wrote:
Alias Slusho Episode

That's it?
That's it.

Anybody notice anything curiOus? Razz


I notice that the Slusho logo in that clip is completely different from the one on the Slusho site and on the Slusho Man's t-shirt.
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Well I'll just be....

Ahhh...don't know how useful this is, or if it's little more than a nod but I'm sitting here actually *watching* MI3 this time (showtime)...and just noticed that when Ethan picks up the Berlin postcard from Lindsey, he flips it over and it's got H. Kelvin on it.

H Kelvin
4306 Durham blvd it looks like
Box 56
Norfolk Va 23510

Shocked

And earlier in the beginning when he meets up with the one guy to get the scoop on his mission, they do it in the 7-11 in a scene very similar to the Alias one. I was totally waiting on somebody to offer up a slusho on that one.

Razz

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Heh ... I plugged in that address into google maps and it put that green arrow in Norfolk Va ....


.... right over Freemason St.

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Anonymous wrote:
Who is to say the AINT IT COOL site is credible to begin with?

I have no experience with the site, but it's not uncommon for someone to get their hands on a movie pre-release. This movie may possibly have the previews on it. So, someone watched the previews and opened their mouth, and it gets around to someone who is going to try to claim it as being an inside source.

I have watched the preview frame-by-frame. I have watched it forwards, backwards, sections of it over and over again. I have seen nothing that suggests an actual huge "monster" is the thing causing the explosions and such. There's 2 massive roars, a gigantic explosion, and the Statue's head thrown through the city.

I've followed a lot of this hype for the last week. I've been on dozens of different websites, followed false leads, gone off on a complete other tangent before coming back on path.

Personally though, I have never seen a "monster" movie with a gigantic explosion that sends exploding shrapnel into the air. But there's a first for everything.


For our purposes, AICN is a venerable site with a long history of having inside knowledge of the movie industry and its workings.

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