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[SPEC] TRAILER/PICS ANALYSIS
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JimmieBJr
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 		Re: Explosion
ExitToMysterySt. wrote:
In fact there is no easy way to place a large spherical type explosion at City Hall without completely engulfing the Woolworth. It would be possible I suppose that the explosion is elongated stretching diagonally between Church St. & Vesey St. up to Chambers St. & and Center St. however I think that's over analyzing the CG effect.


It's likely that the CGI team was told to make a 'splodey effect that could be caused by [UNKNOWN MONSTER] using [UNKNOWN WEAPON].

It looks to me like the conflagration is moving slightly upwards but more toward the camera. It doesn't seem to emanate equally from a central point of origin, but in more of a...err...cone type shape. I'm not necessarily leaning toward breath weapon, though that's the most obvious connection you could make. The projectiles are moving up wards in parabolic arcs as it hurled from a roughly central point, though. That's the confusing thing. We seem to get projectiles moving up and "out" (toward the camera) and to the left and right but not way from the camera (at least not that we could see). That could mean that whatever point of origin this had, it came up and toward the camera, which would cause the conflagration we see and throw the projectiles in the paths we see.

Of course, this has nothing to do with the game, so far as I can see, but darnit, the speculation train's pulling out and I want to be on it! Very Happy
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 		Very end of Trailer
I hope no one has already commented on this but it seems at the very end of the trailer during the (very short) credits the words are distorted for a quick second. I wonder if that means anything. I put an example below (it occurs more than once).



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 		Re: Very end of Trailer
hlp wrote:
I hope no one has already commented on this but it seems at the very end of the trailer during the (very short) credits the words are distorted for a quick second. I wonder if that means anything. I put an example below (it occurs more than once).

(link to wide image)


i think that's your standard 'spooky movie' effect where the letters flicker.
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 		Supporting
EmmanuelGoldstein wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

the 'shirt' you reference in the 'tagged' picture (http://bayimg.com/fADGHAaBp) is actually rob's elbow. and the '9' (or 8 or 6) is DEFINITELY NOT bricks. if it were, you'd see white coming from the top-left of the '9'. the lines are too think, even for 'over-exposed' brick. plus your 'no t-shirts' observation is proved wrong by the SLUSHO! shirt in the same picture. honestly i applaud your effort, but i disagree with your findings.

-k


If that '9' is really the front of his shirt, then scary man would have to be a hunchback or something, the proportions of his body would be completely wrong, you see no neck, no shoulders, nothing.

It's the wall.


Supporting this argument: Note closely the white brick lines slightly less visible.

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/6183/bricksoneyb4.jpg

And now, with the white lines highlighted.

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/7195/brickstwodq2.jpg

However, I've scanned the trailor numerous times, and the "creepy lady" exists no where besides the photo, unusual.

The weird orange glow is caused by a lamp.
Examine:

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4257/118081dh7.jpg

Of course, whether it's a brick wall or not doesn't change the fact that perhaps it was intended to be seen as a 9/6 anyways. Either way, I would be hard pressed to continue down a path of pulling numbers out of an upside-down party photo; you have to establish the validity of your evidence before you can come to conclusions.

As for that matter, that sort of speculation seems rampant in many other topics, but this one requires video confirmation making it somewhat more accurate relative to other topics.

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tinag222
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Well while we're waiting around, I thought I'd raise this one up again for feedback - which I already figure will go this way:

1/3 of you will go: OMG YES! I see those, that's whacked, there could be a lead here.

1/3 of you will go: Pffft, it's tiedye, part of the fabric.

1/3 of you will scroll down.


But STILL....while I can see the symbols move with the folds of the fabric, it still strikes me as off the wall. It's a men's dress shirt, it's a button up with stripe print in the fabric....which just doesn't go well, blend well, work well, with big white Os in two locations on either side.

Initially I never noticed the guy in the first part of the trailer, so was only looking at it at the end when they're running out, but I went back through it and yeah they show up on all shots of this guy but are mostly visible when they are running out.

They just do not go with this style of shirt, which leads me to feel they've been added to it. I've never seen this sort of fabric print. I can't even visualize the conversation in the artfunk factory of someone going "hey I know, let's f*ck up this nice print with arbitrary white donut circles" and "ooooh how avante garde, yes let's!"

It also doesn't look like any tiedye I've ever seen.

So to me, these white circles were added to the shirt:

1. by whoever made the fabric/shirt for who knows why and then where is the shop that sells them? Seriously. I want to see more like this just to wrap my head around why the hell anyone would do that

2. by someone affiliated with the movie for wardrobe, either by painting it on or even CG fx.

It stands out too much. It's nothing we have to scrutinize closely....it's in plain sight same as the slusho thing, and it does not belong there. This guy is also featured in the 2nd pic on the 1-18 site and like the other 4 seem to have more prominant roles in this movie.

Just as a potential trail, and you know they saw this putting the film together for the trailer regardless and opted to leave it in there, IF there is more relevance to it it would seem that they've drawn attention to the shirts for whatever reason. Again, most of all of these people are dressed up nice. Even the guys with tshirts have dress shirts over them, and if it was that casual, why bother? It's 63 degrees out, surely they all weren't chilly? I mean, I wouldn't have a question if it was a tshirt with symbols on it, or worse, one of those hideously stupid cowboy dress shirts that should be outlawed by anyone considering himself a real man, but this is a dress shirt with verticle stripe print. The circles are added afterward.

Is this a nod to some other work of Abrams maybe? Why would the white circles that look spray painted on after the fact (ie not done when the fabric is printed or the shirt was made), be shown so prominantly?

If it turns out to be nothing, so be it...but for now, it's just striking me as really warped for a shirt. I think most all of us sailed clean over the big slusho logo on the one shirt as either irrelevant or incidental...at least exploring the possibilities of this avenue we're covering bases here!



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 		 Markings on the map - connection
I just noticed,

If you look on the refrigerator there is a yellow piece of paper with what appears to be a small map on the bottom. On that there is a "seven" shaped pair of lines. Very similar to the red mark on the map by the frat paddle.

could be nothing, but....?[/img]

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Map.

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 		Im pretty sure thats a map of Manhattan (at least on the left. On the right it looks like an detailed insert).

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 		Just throwing some random stuff out here now. See what happens

http://www.thedeepbook.org/nouvian_bookpage.html
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 		Re: Very end of Trailer
hlp wrote:
I hope no one has already commented on this but it seems at the very end of the trailer during the (very short) credits the words are distorted for a quick second. I wonder if that means anything. I put an example below (it occurs more than once).



More straws... Wink
Well it looks like
In the
1-18
are normal but the other letters are distorted.

Could say "In the hate" with 1-1 as a H and eight -->ate

No I think this is just an effect, the slightly different color of the letters after the distorition is more likely I think.

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tinag222 wrote:
Well while we're waiting around, I thought I'd raise this one up again for feedback - which I already figure will go this way:

1/3 of you will go: OMG YES! I see those, that's whacked, there could be a lead here.

1/3 of you will go: Pffft, it's tiedye, part of the fabric.

1/3 of you will scroll down.


But STILL....while I can see the symbols move with the folds of the fabric, it still strikes me as off the wall. It's a men's dress shirt, it's a button up with stripe print in the fabric....which just doesn't go well, blend well, work well, with big white Os in two locations on either side.

Initially I never noticed the guy in the first part of the trailer, so was only looking at it at the end when they're running out, but I went back through it and yeah they show up on all shots of this guy but are mostly visible when they are running out.

They just do not go with this style of shirt, which leads me to feel they've been added to it. I've never seen this sort of fabric print. I can't even visualize the conversation in the artfunk factory of someone going "hey I know, let's f*ck up this nice print with arbitrary white donut circles" and "ooooh how avante garde, yes let's!"

It also doesn't look like any tiedye I've ever seen.

So to me, these white circles were added to the shirt:

1. by whoever made the fabric/shirt for who knows why and then where is the shop that sells them? Seriously. I want to see more like this just to wrap my head around why the hell anyone would do that

2. by someone affiliated with the movie for wardrobe, either by painting it on or even CG fx.

It stands out too much. It's nothing we have to scrutinize closely....it's in plain sight same as the slusho thing, and it does not belong there. This guy is also featured in the 2nd pic on the 1-18 site and like the other 4 seem to have more prominant roles in this movie.

Just as a potential trail, and you know they saw this putting the film together for the trailer regardless and opted to leave it in there, IF there is more relevance to it it would seem that they've drawn attention to the shirts for whatever reason. Again, most of all of these people are dressed up nice. Even the guys with tshirts have dress shirts over them, and if it was that casual, why bother? It's 63 degrees out, surely they all weren't chilly? I mean, I wouldn't have a question if it was a tshirt with symbols on it, or worse, one of those hideously stupid cowboy dress shirts that should be outlawed by anyone considering himself a real man, but this is a dress shirt with verticle stripe print. The circles are added afterward.

Is this a nod to some other work of Abrams maybe? Why would the white circles that look spray painted on after the fact (ie not done when the fabric is printed or the shirt was made), be shown so prominantly?

If it turns out to be nothing, so be it...but for now, it's just striking me as really warped for a shirt. I think most all of us sailed clean over the big slusho logo on the one shirt as either irrelevant or incidental...at least exploring the possibilities of this avenue we're covering bases here!



Pics below. Might need to click on some for the larger view.


I saw this 2 nights ago and I honestly thought of this new clothing line I read about on Engadget.com where they were beginning to put LEDs in clothes for advertisements and such. It almost looks like it is flashing as they are running downstairs and out the door... It's very weird, that's for sure. But if it's just a new type of shirt... I want one!
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 		The best one I think at the moment is Philips Lumalive, it is pretty cool Smile

Its good because it just feels like a fabric rather than hard lumpy LED's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd99gyE4jCk


I think the chair telling the time is a really cool idea too Smile

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 		Hmmm... 63 degrees is a bit warm in January in new york...it must have double meaning! has anyone tried rotating the images 63 degrees on the 1-18-08 site?

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 		I wonder if the LED clothing is some sort of indication that Rob or the guy in the shirt is in advertising. Like Rob's new job is head of advertising for Slusho?

If they are used for product promotion, it would follow that this cutting edge technology would be part of the daily fabric (ha!) of these characters.

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tinag222 wrote:
Map.

What is this a map of?


cognoscento wrote:
Im pretty sure thats a map of Manhattan (at least on the left. On the right it looks like an detailed insert).


The right-hand side is definitely Manhattan. The horizontal line near the top marks the Cross-Bronx Expressway, then leading down from that is the outline of Harlem River between Manhattan and Bronx (top-right).

The left map looks like the other areas of New York. The top third appears to be Jersey City - you can just about make out the Y-shaped river fork due West of the point of Manhattan. I don't know what the rest is.

What I'm interested in is the markings on the left hand side of the map. Could they be tracing out features of the map (and what)? Kanji?

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