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mystic26
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Joined: 03 Jul 2007
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the round metal thingy

it looks to me like a bolt... i dont know why he would have one, but thats what i think it is.

the medallion thing is a circle with a sword going straight down between two arrows that are crossed. the "to be opressed" thing makes it sound like an army thing.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:03 pm
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Jaybird
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Joined: 23 Jun 2007
Posts: 36
Location: Merry Olde Englande

I can confirm, the bottom left coin is indeed a two pence coin Very Happy

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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:10 pm

zizka
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Re: the round metal thingy

woot!

"De Oppresso Liber - to liberate the oppressed

It is the motto of the Green Berets." Fro msome army discussion board.

The wiki article for US special Forces confirms.

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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 4:55 pm

zizka
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Not to double post, but . . .

Quote:

Do you have a man on the ground in Casper, WY? If so, provide details and description.

Need more info from you to assess options:

I have reviewed all documentation you provided. Would like your analysis of the overall situation. Provide a precis focusing on your core objective at this point and the threat level and intent of green.

Also,

Are you independent or corporate?

What is your interest in this project?

Have you worked on any previous projects that I might have heard of?

Are you willing to collaborate on this project if our aims are similar? If so, why?

I need your responses no later than 1900pdt today.

Guess I'll work on this, but I sure could use some input.

Edited because there is no "p" in "work."

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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 5:59 pm

mortality
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Letter/Email? From germain?

Can you provide more information to identify the communique's source and means of transmission?

I think this is also an opportunity to expand the number of people who can make contact in the event a point person is unavailable.

Feel free to ask if you need help formulating a response to anything.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:08 pm

zizka
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Sorry, it was from an email from germain. I've cooked up the following:

Quote:

Greetings from the one-eyed general of Bohemia, may we always defend truth until death:

We *do not* have a man in Casper. If there are any people unknown to you on the ground, they *are not* with us. I can only asume that any pros in the area that aren't yours are not working with accomplishing your goal in mind--to say the very least.

Currently, we have some people working on summarizing what we know to date; some working on analyzing the content's of AP's box; some working on tracking the wherabouts of JThalberg for the last 18 months; and some working on maintaining contact with TPetal

The bulk of our efforts at this very moment is in organizing our data; analyzing the AP possessions is a close second. We have one or two people on the other projets.

Green is dangerous and very malicious. He is, I am certain behind the death of JPike, the person who brought our attention to this matter. As for his threat level, it is high, but not enourmously so. He's on our trail to be sure, but not on our heels, which is the reason for the new address.

We are an indepenent research group--I will call us GDI--who came together out of similar interest in the information presented origianlly by a Person known to us only as, initially, T.Petal. Several of us have played minor roles on various smaller projects--beneath the notice of many--but for many of us, this is the first project.

I speak only for myself in saying that my interest, initially, was mere curiosity, but it became rapidly apparant that something dark and sinister was at hand. Two suspicious deaths in, I think we would all like to get to the bottom of this at the very least.

I suspect that all of my associates would agree. We are all keenly eager to work together on this. I believe that we need your people in the field and you can use our various research talents.

This is by no means complete, and I welcome all input. The one-eyed bit at the front is because I will be sending this from a new address. I'll ask about widening the contact circel, but I know that other contacts so far have been very, ahm, "cautious" about their email addies.

We have a little over 3 hours.

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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:26 pm

mortality
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Precis response

Good work. You covered just about everything.

Definitely add analytical skills to mention of research talents. That seems to be their weak spot: they can gather the evidence but aren't able to make total sense of it.

Maybe mention that we have diverse backgrounds/experiences and are located all over the US and globe; ability to bring unique perspectives to bear on the situation.

Include that we have a common concern about abuse of government resources and power?

Yeah, they're cautious alright. Germain had a fit when you surprised him with the cipher solution.

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:50 pm

zizka
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Re: Precis response

will do. I have created a terrifying new identity for the purposes on this email! muahahahaha. I will, of course, have to keep that under wraps for the time being, but know that nothing inspires fear like the gaping maw of the Sciurus carolinensis. Twisted Evil

I sent the following:

Quote:

p0st@g3

Greetings from the one-eyed general of Bohemia,

I hope that my new persona inspires confidence in my allies and laughter in my enemies--how I do love to be underestimated. May we always defend truth unto death:

We *do not* have a man in Casper. If there are any people unknown to you on the ground, they *are not* with us. I can only assume that any pros in the area who are not yours are not working with accomplishing your goal in mind--to say the very least.

Currently, we have some people working on summarizing what we know to date; some working on analyzing the content's of AP's box; some working on tracking the whereabouts of JTh@1b3r6 for the last 18 months; and some working on maintaining contact with TP3t@1

The bulk of our efforts at this very moment is in organizing our data; analyzing the AP possessions is a close second. We have one or two people on the other projects.

GI233n is dangerous and very malicious. He is, I am certain behind the death of JP1k3, the person who brought our attention to this matter. As for his threat level, it is high but not enormously so. He's on our trail to be sure, but not on our heels, which is the reason for the new address.

We are an independent research group--I will call us GDI--who came together out of similar interest in the information presented originally by a Person known to us only as, initially, T.Petal. Several of us have played minor roles on various smaller projects--beneath the notice of many--but for many of us, this is the first project.

I speak only for myself in saying that my interest, initially, was mere curiosity, but it became rapidly apparent that something dark and sinister was at hand. Two suspicious deaths in, I think we would all like to get to the bottom of this at the very least. If you dig a little on my choice of handles, you may detect a distinct anti-authoritarian design. This is a sentiment that my associates and I all share. To this end, while we are interested in uncovering the truth, our primary goal remains exposing what we suspect to be a usurpation and circumvention of the people's power.

I suspect that all of my associates would agree. We are all keenly eager to work with you on this. I believe that we need your people in the field and that you can use our various research and analytic talents. We have people all over the globe with divers knowledge and skill sets, but our field presence and skills are both limited.

Scirus sub Umbra

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Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 6:55 pm

Coffeebean
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AP
not dead

Look again at picture of Allen.

When a person dies, is it possible to be holding finger bent? I don't have any experience in this type of stuff, but would imagine that when one dies, all muscles would go limp, especially if hanging....

??

Do we have a new website up yet? I have everything in a ms word doc, and it is about 30+ pages long. If mortality (for the new website) wants to look at it, or anyone else, let me know. I am thinking of posting it at wordpress.

*or maybe he is trying to flip us the bird Osprey Smile

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:15 am
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Coffeebean
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AP's items

bottom two items, one red and one yellow, are post-its.
They are used to point to place for signature on documents.

Oops, you already had that on your list, I didn't see it the first time, my mistake.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:01 am

Coffeebean
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Posts: 626

raju

could the name "raju runoili" and the number "2764-5511" be a code?

I can make AP MILLOO from the numbers (using UK's version of touchpad on phone).....and here is the odd part.....
every time a name is mentioned, it happens to be a person on deviantArt web site.

Promis
FLIFF
MILLOO

Just found it odd (and probably stayed up too late)

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:27 am

surfzoned
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Joined: 30 Jun 2007
Posts: 237
Location: City of Denial, Nation of Sheeple

DevArt

Devart has over 4.5 million registered users.
I have been a member under different user names since 2002.
There aren't many names you wont find there LOL.

3-4 hours after death Rigor Mortis sets in and persist for about 36 hours, causing among other things muscles to contract.

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:35 am

zizka
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Location: Basement of the Alamo

Germain's response to our precis (emphasis added):

Quote:

It appears we share several key points of view. In the spirit of quid pro quo I will say that we are also concerned with the "usurpation and circumvention of the people's power", as well as with their fundamental rights as sovereign individuals.

The group I am with is made up entirely of independent contractors who come together temporarily, forming small crews, to achieve very specific goals. Once a project is complete the crew disbands. For its duration, a crew is organized based on the objective of the project and the skillsets of the crew members. When not actively working on a project we are completely decentralized from an organizational perspective and we are geographically dispersed. We use whatever technology be can bend to our purposes for communications and in the pursuit of our projects.

I was, and am, in the midst of another project when I received the news about AP and also your information about this (perhaps) related situation with the seahawk. That is why the situation in ghost town is stretched rather thin. I am directing that effort, while working on my current project, since I knew Allen and since I have experience with that type of project - but we are quite shorthanded. I have spoken with the members of this crew and we all accept your offer of research and analysis on this project for as long as we have common goals and the relationship is mutually beneficial.

You must be aware also that we will look for your input on operational decisions whenever the situation allows for it, and it is not impossible that you, or one of your group, may be called upon to make key operational decisions alone if you, or another person, is the most qualified to make that decision or if the situation is such that you, or another person, is the only person able to make that decision.

If your personal offer still stands in light of what I've said, please confirm.

One of our basic tenants is that free people must be allowed to make their own choices based on as free a flow of information as possible. I understand that your group is likely not set up on the same lines as ours, so I would like you to ensure that as many of your group as possible are given the opportunity to understand our goals and our terms and decide for themselves if they wish to continue in this project.

My immediate goal is to find out the truth and the details of what happened to AP. To that end, the next decision I must make is whether to keep T in ghost town in light of his most recent news (I assume you have read it) or to pull him out within the next 6 hours. My thought is to leave him in place for 24 more hours to learn as much as possible (from a distance) about CT1. T is very skilled in this role and I feel that his personal risk is minimal. Since you have more experience with the person who may be CT1 or who CT1 may be working for, I would value your, and your team's, input if it is possible to get it. I will hold off until 2130pdt. I will proceed at that time based on the available data, regardless.

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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:20 am

mortality
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Coop w/ Germain

I'm inclined to cooperate. I like that he repeatedly mentions that it's only so long as cooperation is mutually beneficial; leaves both parties a way out, no hard feelings. Which isn't to say that working at cross-purposes will be sans consequences.

It's clear that Germain wants information shared among all of us. That doesn't necessarily signal a desire to open communications to more of the group. In the reply, you might want to ask for clarification on that point. And suggest that we be provided with a way to identify our communications as genuine.

About CT1 and Tristan: Let them have at it. So far OIS has taken out JPike, who knew neither what was going on nor how to handle it, and AP, who was in a dubious mental state. Your earlier assessments seems correct: OIS is dangerous, but so far, not a tremendous threat. Tristan sounds competent, might have the drop on CT1, and has Germain's confidence. Who are we to disagree?

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:37 am

chinchin
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Joined: 26 Jun 2007
Posts: 10
Location: Silver Spring, MD

Re: Coop w/ Germain

mortality wrote:

I agree. I like the idea of having 'real' people on the ground. Very Happy

Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:25 pm

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