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[SPEC] PLOT THEORIES
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Kai Orion
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My new theories
and important questions.

Okay, I have taken back my previuos Godzilla rants, although it would still be cool...anyway, i think I should pose some important questions we need to answer to figure out the plot...:

A: Why would the 'creature' have torn off the head of the SOL ( Some poeple have been saying it was for dramatic effect, but you'll see why that's total bull in a moment) and then throw it into the city? At Rob maybe? We know it didn't come from the SOL itself when it was thrown/projected because it comes from the fire ball, which was engulfing the Woolworth (I can't spell) building. The SOL is placed romotely on the other side of the bay. In order to hit where it did, it would have to fly at the wool worth building, take a forty five degree turn and hit that street. Obviusly the creature knew about it or wanted it for something.

B: Why was Ron so calm yet so paranoid when the creature roared? I think he knows something. I also caught someone saying 'You should have left town a little earlier' in a semi-joking way. First off, in a situation like this, that's not something people are thinking bout unless they know whats going on. So at least two people at that part have something they know about this.

C: The Slusho shirt. Maybe it's a clue towards slusho, maybe someone who was an extra just happened to be a fan or was wearing that shirt.


My theory, while sketchy, is that something was created (by slusho?) maybe on accident and is tearing apart new york. He/she/it may be looking for something in particular because if it was at the SOL and traversed that far without blowing anything up, it must have been waiting till it got somewhere or close to something in particular. this thing may have been Rob (what it was looking for). From there, we know nothing.

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what if

rob isn't the main character. if the movie is taking place in the present, after whatever happened happened, and these are just clips from camcorders, why does it have to all be from the same camcorder? there's only 1 'corder shown in the party, and i'm sure in a city such as NY, there would be more than 1 'corder to survive such an ordeal. everytime that anything is aid about how the movey is filmed, its with camcorderS, plural. we only see 1 at the party, there are more. the pics aren't all from the party, and could be by anybody.

in LOST fashion, this is just 1 thread of the story that will end up playing out. my guess is that the next trailer will have nothing to do w/ anybody we've seen thus far.

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Re: what if

officespacejk wrote:
rob isn't the main character.


This sounds familiar, but where's it from?

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Re: what if

rhialto wrote:
officespacejk wrote:
rob isn't the main character.


This sounds familiar, but where's it from?


do i detect sarcasm?

no serioulsy, can you tell me for sure? i just got in a huge fight w/ the exwife 'cause you can't get inflection in typed text, and i'm a little gunshy. anybody thats been through the big D knows what i'm sayin...

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No I really don't know where that information comes from. Missed it somehow. AICN?

EDIT: Or you're just speculating and I took it seriously?

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rhialto wrote:
No I really don't know where that information comes from. Missed it somehow. AICN?

EDIT: Or you're just speculating and I took it seriously?


i've thought it for a while, and heard something close to it once. but i don't think there's any reason to think there's only (1) group of people in the film. the only reason we think so, is 'cause thats all we're seen...but we've seen 2 mins of it, and its entirely possible that is the entire thread from that camcorder, and none of what we saw will end up in the movie.

best ending i've heard though, was that at the end, one of the clean up crew takes off his suit, and he's an alien.

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Re: what if

officespacejk wrote:
rob isn't the main character. if the movie is taking place in the present, after whatever happened happened, and these are just clips from camcorders, why does it have to all be from the same camcorder? there's only 1 'corder shown in the party, and i'm sure in a city such as NY, there would be more than 1 'corder to survive such an ordeal. everytime that anything is aid about how the movey is filmed, its with camcorderS, plural. we only see 1 at the party, there are more. the pics aren't all from the party, and could be by anybody.

in LOST fashion, this is just 1 thread of the story that will end up playing out. my guess is that the next trailer will have nothing to do w/ anybody we've seen thus far.


Then the entire trailer is meaningless.

This trailer has us all emotionally involved in Rob and his friends. If they throw something else at us that takes away from the "street" view and takes us to the "big picture" view then that still doesn't mean it's not about Rob.

This is Rob's movie, come hell or high water, according to this trailer. And this trailer is why we're spending all this time doing what we're doing.

EDIT:

"I don't know, I'm like your main dude."

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Re: New pieces of facts from video
Multiple?

Kai Orion wrote:
Look, I noticed something new about the video previusly overlooked. After they are on the roof, watch carefully as the camera pans towards pillar of flames. in the background, you will see another short mushroom cloud of fire just on the horizon.


are you talking about the orange glow that is off in the distance just before the big explosion happens? i'm pretty sure that's lights from a building. i don't think they'd be ignoring it if it were actually fire.

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Re: what if

rhialto wrote:
officespacejk wrote:
rob isn't the main character.


This sounds familiar, but where's it from?


Could this be from the pics on 1-18-08?? Rob's only in one of them. The 12:36A photo may or may not show two girls from Rob's party. The other two 1-18-08 photos look to be unrelated to the trailer scenes. So there may be other cameras/camcorders that are found after the "event" (ref: plot description in AICN article of 7/1Cool, and the "event" is replayed from multiple different, and essentially independent, viewpoints - one of which is Rob's.

I'm starting to think that's what they're hinting at on the 1-18-08 site. Those pictures look like they're from different cameras.

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Maybe
A few more theories

First and foremost, I think we should throw out any invasion-from-alien theories. We've had enough of those recently and i don't think that's JJ's style...anyway, Transformers already took care of that for another year or two.

And, Rob is probably a main character, otherwise the trailer wouldn't involve his party and him leaving, it would simply show the ending explosion and panic.

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Temperature Stats for New York City
63 degrees after midnight in January?

A lot of questions on this, so here is some actual climate data for Central Park, New York, for January 18:

Normal (average) high is 37 degrees, normal low is 26 degrees.
The record high temperature for Jan. 18 is 66, last reached in 1990.
Records for Central Park go back to 1869.

So 63 at 12:32 AM seems highly improbable if not impossible, based on the above. The possibilities are:

1] Production error - unlikely, since the temperature is prominently shown and so we're apparently meant to see it. Also, no one in the trailer seems to be bundled up for typical winter weather in New York.

2] The trailer events are actually happening during another (warmer) time of year, not on 1/18. Possible, although this seems to contradict the date/time stamps on the 1-18-08.com site. Is it possible that the D/T stamps show when the images were downloaded, and not when they were originally shot?

3] The unusually warm weather is central to the plot. If it's not 1] or 2], then we have to think this is the case. Again, the light clothing and the obvious TV readout suggest we are meant to know that it really is that warm in NYC in January.

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Is it just me or does this Rob character look way too guilty, the face as if you let something terrible loose and now you have to pay.

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Re: what if

Anteros wrote:
officespacejk wrote:
rob isn't the main character. if the movie is taking place in the present, after whatever happened happened, and these are just clips from camcorders, why does it have to all be from the same camcorder? there's only 1 'corder shown in the party, and i'm sure in a city such as NY, there would be more than 1 'corder to survive such an ordeal. everytime that anything is aid about how the movey is filmed, its with camcorderS, plural. we only see 1 at the party, there are more. the pics aren't all from the party, and could be by anybody.

in LOST fashion, this is just 1 thread of the story that will end up playing out. my guess is that the next trailer will have nothing to do w/ anybody we've seen thus far.


Then the entire trailer is meaningless.

This trailer has us all emotionally involved in Rob and his friends. If they throw something else at us that takes away from the "street" view and takes us to the "big picture" view then that still doesn't mean it's not about Rob.

This is Rob's movie, come hell or high water, according to this trailer. And this trailer is why we're spending all this time doing what we're doing.

EDIT:

"I don't know, I'm like your main dude."


i still don't buy it. jj doesn't follow standardized filming components, nor what we generally accept as normal storyline or story developement. that trailer could be nothing more than to give slusho, and (1) point of view of the action.

seriously, every weekend i go out and try to fall in love, and i can't do it after just 2 mins, no matter how much i want to...so i don't think anybody can say that have an emmotional attachment to a fictional character, because you've seen 1 min of his going away party, and 1 min of him running for his life.

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Re: what if

Anteros wrote:
officespacejk wrote:
rob isn't the main character. if the movie is taking place in the present, after whatever happened happened, and these are just clips from camcorders, why does it have to all be from the same camcorder? there's only 1 'corder shown in the party, and i'm sure in a city such as NY, there would be more than 1 'corder to survive such an ordeal. everytime that anything is aid about how the movey is filmed, its with camcorderS, plural. we only see 1 at the party, there are more. the pics aren't all from the party, and could be by anybody.

in LOST fashion, this is just 1 thread of the story that will end up playing out. my guess is that the next trailer will have nothing to do w/ anybody we've seen thus far.


Then the entire trailer is meaningless.

This trailer has us all emotionally involved in Rob and his friends. If they throw something else at us that takes away from the "street" view and takes us to the "big picture" view then that still doesn't mean it's not about Rob.

This is Rob's movie, come hell or high water, according to this trailer. And this trailer is why we're spending all this time doing what we're doing.

EDIT:

"I don't know, I'm like your main dude."



i agree, why would they spend the whole trailer telling about Rob's trip to Japan, the party, and the people at the party reacting to Rob leaving and such if it wasnt about him.

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Re: what if

junior496 wrote:
Anteros wrote:
officespacejk wrote:
rob isn't the main character. if the movie is taking place in the present, after whatever happened happened, and these are just clips from camcorders, why does it have to all be from the same camcorder? there's only 1 'corder shown in the party, and i'm sure in a city such as NY, there would be more than 1 'corder to survive such an ordeal. everytime that anything is aid about how the movey is filmed, its with camcorderS, plural. we only see 1 at the party, there are more. the pics aren't all from the party, and could be by anybody.

in LOST fashion, this is just 1 thread of the story that will end up playing out. my guess is that the next trailer will have nothing to do w/ anybody we've seen thus far.


Then the entire trailer is meaningless.

This trailer has us all emotionally involved in Rob and his friends. If they throw something else at us that takes away from the "street" view and takes us to the "big picture" view then that still doesn't mean it's not about Rob.

This is Rob's movie, come hell or high water, according to this trailer. And this trailer is why we're spending all this time doing what we're doing.

EDIT:

"I don't know, I'm like your main dude."



i agree, why would they spend the whole trailer telling about Rob's trip to Japan, the party, and the people at the party reacting to Rob leaving and such.


I don't know, he's like "our main dude." Wink

Razz

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