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[SPEC] shadeedge's Big Theory of Everything
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shadeedge
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[SPEC] shadeedge's Big Theory of Everything

This is basically going to be me putting things together as I see them to try and form a compatible whole. So here's what I think.

Speculation 1: Why didn't humans die at the first Halo firing?

Well, it's pretty much agreed they were in the Ark. It's called the Ark, after all. Since we know it's the only place besides the Halos themselves that can remotely set off Halos, let's assume that it is a sort of headquarters. This explains why humans are the Reclaimers; we're the Forerunner's hope of taking back the galaxy and, if necessary, firing the Halos again. So we have a nice control platform right on our doorstep. Easy as pie! But wait, hang on. We know this partly because humans ahve existed for longer than since the time the network last fired. But surely... we aren't the only ones?

Speculation 2: Why didn't the Covenant die at the first Halo firing?

Because at the very least, Prophets, Elites and Brutes seem up to human level, evolutionary speaking. Why didn't they die out? Because.. they too were protected, in similar but less in control (after all, there's only one Ark) facilities to humans. Seperately, probably, since they weren't all Covenant at the time. This explains where the Prophets got the notion of the Great Journey from, or at least in a mix of this and the next guess...

Speculation 3: Where on earth are the Forerunners themselves?

I think they were sorry. I think they saw a galaxy destroyed, thousands of races obliterated and absorbed, and felt horribly guilty. I think they created the Flood, and felt that this was all due to them. And thus, I think the Forerunners made sure alien races were safe, and fought literally to an end to atone. Guilty Spark, Penitent Tangent; they built the network knowing they were in the wrong. And so they effectively committed suicide by holding the Flood back from their safe points. So what did the primitive Prophets see? The Forerunners setting them up in a temporary home, and then leaving to fight for a great cause... perhaps telling the young races a story to try and get across what they were doing..... a story changed by time and misunderstood in the first place... the Great Journey. Which leads us on to...

Speculation 4: Onyx is one such mini-Ark, of several.

.. and it's empty. Why? Well, in this case we can say the Flood probably didn't get in, considering what happened to it. But let's say other places were, well, not so lucky. I imagine the safe houses weren't all too safe from the Flood. If they were, the Forerunners could just bunker down and sit them out. Let's imagine, then, that Onyx is one of the mini-arks that a Covenent race were housed in. The Halos themselves might have been, due to the terraforming they have. But I doubt it, if only because the Covenant hadn't come across the actual ones before. Of course, there's also the unpleasant thought of...

Speculation 5: Why didn't the Flood die from the the Halo firing?

Because they got into the safe points, too. It would only take one flood spore, sneaking in. Surviving off hosts and avoiding Forerunner security. And then leaving when the species left, later, erm, feasting in the safety of outside Ark-ness. Not pleasant, but it explains how they carried on living.

Speculation 6: Why aren't the Covenant still there, then?

Two ideas on this. Either it was never used; maybe the race it was intended for died out before getting there. Perhaps a race did get in, but with a few Flood managing to sneak in, killing and then being killed themselves. Or maybe we can put it down to the Great Journey and the Covenant moving on.

Speculation 7: Tying it into the ARG.

Here's my guess, then, which i've put elsewhere but I might as well do again. We know the Halo communication beacon on Earth is underground; it's possible that the Ark is itself in a Dyson Sphere. But maybe not. Either way, I believe that the initial AR is the Ark's equivalent of a greeter; it says hi, it welcomes new people. Someone has found the Ark and has somehow let AR out (or at least given it the ability to communicate). The Ark needs something to automate it's processes and open the doors once Halo has fired, if the Forerunners aren't there. I'm guessing this partly based on the name.

The entity that has replaced AR is the Ark's equivalent of a Halo Librarian. AR makes contact and does the simple stuff, but new AR is truly in control of the facility. It's just using AR as a mask, as it itself pretty much admits to.

And.. that's it, really. Thoughts? All criticism is welcome, since i'm sure i've made a good few obvious (to all but me) errors in there! Smile

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I know im probably wrong on this too, but I thought that the Humans and Covenant races werent sentient yet when the halos fired. The forerunners gathered all the species that could evolve into sentient species, I think.

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question, if the flood did get into the safe houses, why were they contained on the halo rings for so long?

btw nice tye in everything else seems to fit and presents an awesome story

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The Flood were contained on the Halos for so long because they had no way of getting off the rings, like in Halo 2 at some point in the Covenant base they mentioned not letting the Flood off the ship because of the chance of them spreading (possibly mentioned in Halo: CE as well, might check that tonight).

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coloneloneill
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which leads me to the idea that the forerunners were able to contain the flood, they didnt accidently get into the rings, maybe there impossible to destry and they were sealed away until the"reclaimers" could find a way to fight them, a hope for future progress or the like...

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Vossk wrote:
I know im probably wrong on this too, but I thought that the Humans and Covenant races werent sentient yet when the halos fired. The forerunners gathered all the species that could evolve into sentient species, I think.
The Forerunners had to draw a line somewhere. I think you're right, because just as humans are still alive, so are animals that have been around a lot longer. Sharks and crocodiles, off the top of my head. I'm uncertain as to what state humans were in at that time, but I can picture the Forerunners gathering together some other creature populating Earth at the time, too.

coloneloneill wrote:
question, if the flood did get into the safe houses, why were they contained on the halo rings for so long?
My guess would be that many actually died out, after having finished with whatever species was being kept there. But again working with the idea that it only takes a few Flood, I can imagine them retaking or even creating ships to get somewhere where there would be sustenance - or to destroy the Halos.

Ooh, I like that theory. And then we can say that not being able to destroy the Halos, they in fact stored themselves. Not trapped on Halos, but voluntarily frozen, so that they might survive without food for however many long years. Maybe a natural hibernation, possibly not.

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My only problem with your theory is that the Forerunners created the flood.
I think the info (particularly the video) on Server 2 pretty much confirm that the Forerunner encountered the flood, and that the Flood actually predate the Forerunner themselves.

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Also, did we give them the name fore runner or did they , name themselves?

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MConnalley wrote:
Also, did we give them the name fore runner or did they , name themselves?


Cortana says, "It was built by an ancient race called the Forerunner..." or something to that nature when she first enters the control room computer.

The Covenant call them "Lords", "Giants", "Forerunner", etc.
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I just started playing Halo (Halo 2 is qeued up too) and the Covenant call the Forerunners <insert> which translates in English to "Forerunners".

I think your theory is one of the less strange ones out there (though I think the flood evolved like the rest of us), and most hinted at through all the information we have.

According to the biological timeline of Earth, ALL animals (of sufficient biomass to support the Flood) must have been placed in the Ark. Almost no evolution has happened in the last 100k years, so at least all Earth animal life must have been in there.

As for the covenant and their "animals" that must be there (unless they're all herbivores, which I doubt with those big Elite chompers), they most likely also had Arks (or just protective areas, not necessarily ones that can activate the Halos). Of course, if they don't evolve the same way as Earth life, then they could have evolved in the past 1000 years for all we know.

The only reason I doubt the last statement is because the Flood can use them as hosts. This implies HEAVY similarities to Earth animals, since it would require a cellular composition AND a nervous system of similar construction.

HERE'S THE CATCH: Our vertebrate nervous system is new and specialized, and since all Covenant species are so compatible to us, it very well may be true that we share a common ancestor. If not, then we must have had SOME similar source, either by Forerunner seeding, or as I said earlier, a common ancestor.

Think about it.
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Here is a thought, what if the Whole Earth was the Arc? it would make sense about the animals that had been around longer than we have, and why they are still here, maybe thats what the machine does, provides a sheild against the Halo's as well as activate them. However We do know that the Forerunners can manipulate slipspace in ways we cant even comprehend, so maybe the machine just generated a bubble to phase out the whole earth for a short time, or, if taken literally, all of the animals were placed in a similar (or multiple) bubble(s) inside the machine.

Also, arent the only ones the flood infects the elite's and the Prophets? there seem to be no other covenant race used as hosts.... and the brutes clearly have enough biomass...

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laro6781 wrote:
Here is a thought, what if the Whole Earth was the Arc? it would make sense about the animals that had been around longer than we have, and why they are still here, maybe thats what the machine does, provides a sheild against the Halo's as well as activate them. However We do know that the Forerunners can manipulate slipspace in ways we cant even comprehend, so maybe the machine just generated a bubble to phase out the whole earth for a short time, or, if taken literally, all of the animals were placed in a similar (or multiple) bubble(s) inside the machine.

Also, arent the only ones the flood infects the elite's and the Prophets? there seem to be no other covenant race used as hosts.... and the brutes clearly have enough biomass...


I like the idea of the whole Earth being the Ark, but I also think that if the structure we saw in the announcement structure is somehow related to shielding the Earth from the Halos' effects, then more of them would be needed to protect the whole Earth. Perhaps the structure we saw isn't the only one of its kind...

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Well, now here is the real question, did bungie say that the machine was the arc, or did they just say that the arc was in the trailer? Come to think of it.... in the comic that is part of this ARG, doesnt the human make some sort of comment on how the "gods" were burying the machine, and doesnt it show some sort of large sentinel doing what looks like digging? Ok, if you were going to use something sometime soon, and actually needed to be inside of it, Why in the hell would you bury it? Isnt that alot of work and time that could be avoided? unless of course, it had to be underground, like a fallout shelter, to get the most out of its purpose.... sorry, started to type what I was thinking....

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laro6781 wrote:
Well, now here is the real question, did bungie say that the machine was the arc, or did they just say that the arc was in the trailer? Come to think of it.... in the comic that is part of this ARG, doesnt the human make some sort of comment on how the "gods" were burying the machine, and doesnt it show some sort of large sentinel doing what looks like digging? Ok, if you were going to use something sometime soon, and actually needed to be inside of it, Why in the hell would you bury it? Isnt that alot of work and time that could be avoided? unless of course, it had to be underground, like a fallout shelter, to get the most out of its purpose.... sorry, started to type what I was thinking....


Partial answers to your questions here.

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