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[HAAS][META] Mind Storm Labs, Red Interactive Agency etc.
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Almijisti
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I might be losing my mind, given that I've only had a few hours sleep each night since this began (and 1-18-0Cool, but was this always there? Anyway, it wasn't mentioned above; it says that Mind Storm Labs appeared at Pandemonium (gaming convention held by Toronto Role-Playing Association) back in February and has a link to the Pandemonium website. The .pdf of Pandemonium doesn't mention anything about Mind Storm Labs, but they may have simply had a booth. Whatever they did--if indeed they even there--no one anywhere I have seen ever bothered to mention it online. If anyone has a copy of the program, they might have placed an ad in there.

On the Mind Storm Labs April newsletter, regarding their Play Testing, (apparently in answer to a claim someone made that table top games are not "beta tested") there is this curious line:

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"Feedback has been great so far and the sessions have been a lot of fun in spite of the weird guy madly taking notes."


Could be nothing or maybe it is.

EDIT/ http://royamadesign.createsend.com/viewEmail.aspx?cID=C34ADADC9D97E1C8 is the website I meant to be referring to. I didn't notice it before.

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theonetruebix wrote:
Somehow, I don't think it was just randomly some mysterious person who happened to have Brian Kessman's name. bjkman22 -- who posted the thing around over the course of June 27-29, had an email address beginning bkessman@.

That's not merely "90% likely". That was Brian Kessman of Red Interactive.


Oh, ok. Never saw that email. Yeah; I'd agree then.

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Almijisti wrote:
On the Mind Storm Labs April newsletter, regarding their Play Testing, (apparently in answer to a claim someone made that table top games are not "beta tested") there is this curious line:

Quote:
"Feedback has been great so far and the sessions have been a lot of fun in spite of the weird guy madly taking notes."


Could be nothing or maybe it is.


In interactive testing sessions, which are similar to focus groups, there's always a "weird guy" taking notes. Depending on the nature of the product being tested, that person might be right there with the testers, side by site with them and directly receiving their input, or be a silent observer viewing the testing through one way glass.

I do software development for a company that does focus groups. I'm familiar with the setup, at least in this regard. I know a few "weird guys" myself.

I haven't had much the chance to pursue this game in the last few days; I need to catch up. Bix, you're way ahead of us on this, but I understand that a lot of things that you've found you probbaly weren't supposed to find yet. You're a lot more agressive in your investigations than most. Wink

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On behalf of me and the other denizens here... Thanks, Four Guys!

The Four Guys bring up an interesting point: Red Interactive Agency. Look at their portfolio - Spiderman 3, Sony Pictures Television, UFC, Warner Brothers... They're heavy hitters, and they probably aren't particularly cheap. It just seems like they're out of Mind Storm Labs' league.

The EHWR site is the only site that doesn't list a client.

Also, another question of curiosity: if the only three people we know of at Mind Storm Labs have an operating address in Florida (and we have confirmed one of them to be a Florida native), who's in Canada? We have no idea the size of the team developing Alpha Omega. Could be one guy, could be fifty.

BTW: Four Guys... you mention that, if it were a video game, they'd be focusing on E3 rather than GenCon. E3 is three months earlier (perhaps they weren't ready), and a hell of a lot more expensive to attend than GenCon (I could be wrong in the price; I haven't attended myself in five years). Also, it takes a LOT longer to make a video game than it does a table top RPG (where basically the only thing you need to do is write a manual).

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FYI: "Necro" has disappeared from the journal pages WHOIS information, and now they're all listed through the "Domain Privacy Group".

Before:

Quote:
Registrant:
Necro
Jones, Scott
147 James Street
Ocala, CA 90210
US


That address is bogus in so many ways it isn't even funny. Ocala's in Florida, and there isn't a James Street in it. 90210 is Beverly Hills, California.

Today, the WHOIS information is...

Quote:
Registrant:
Domain Privacy Group, Inc.
c/o [domain],
5160 Yonge St. Suite 1800
Toronto, ON M2N 6L9
CA


Looks like you got to 'em, bix... Wink

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Almijisti
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The 'TE' monogram at Triton Enterprises is in the same font used for the menus at Mind Storm Labs. Not that we didn't already know there was a relationship, just a little tidbit.

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Almijisti wrote:
The 'TE' monogram at Triton Enterprises is in the same font used for the menus at Mind Storm Labs. Not that we didn't already know there was a relationship, just a little tidbit.


Thanks. We're making a habit of overlooking the "in your face" things, aren't we?

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Strictly speaking, it's very similar, but not exact. Look at the "R" to see the difference.
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Almijisti
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I just meant the Caps in the Monogram, not the "Triton Enterprises" below--that is either a different font altogether or a small-caps.

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The "Triton Enterprises" font is different, but the "E" alone is unmistakeable.

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I now believe that the New Brunswick letter is real.
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Having stared at the n's and r's on the Haas journal pages and then comparing to Van's signature, I'd say Tom wrote those pages too. Not really a suprise, but if others agree we may be able to infer something from it later, who knows?

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theonetruebix wrote:
I now believe that the New Brunswick letter is real.


So far, this is one of the few things I disagree with you about. The only legitimate purpose of handwriting examination is to determine if something is forged, and that requires known examples of a person's handwriting and an example of the writing believed to be a forgery. In other words, it's only valid when trying to determine if two or more persons wrote something, not if one person did. Trying to determine if one person wrote two completely different signatures is therefore illegitimate. Since there is no real Van Mantra (and we better hope there is none, otherwise the world might be coming to an end soon), it is impossible. Since the similarity pointed to is a single feature--the T-swoosh, and all the rest is clearly different, I can't agree with your conclusions.

That said, if the NB letter is legit, what purpose could it possibly serve?

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That said, if the NB letter is legit, what purpose could it possibly serve?


Well, it got us talking about it...

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Nighthawk wrote:
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That said, if the NB letter is legit, what purpose could it possibly serve?


Well, it got us talking about it...


And I also think it could simply be the puppetmasters realizing they had a way to freak someone out.
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