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[HAAS][PUZZLE] Ethan Haas' journal pages
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ancient
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www.divinusvacations.com found the site, it was updated between 6-7 pm their time. which leaves me to conclude one thing, and that is frankly you fucked up their pattern. They changed the site because of the " I want to be secret" BS this always happens in every ARG there's always someone trying to be at the front and stumbles upon the new sites that aren't ready yet and they're being all boastful " oh I found the sites but you gotta find them for yourself heehee " and the creators say " nu-uh don't think so " and they knock you down a peg, in your playing two "GAMES" you've most likely messed things up for a lot of people Wink good job boss!

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Nighthawk
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The issue here isn't the Divinus URL; heck, that could have been figured out within minutes of seeing the Triton PDF. I mean, look at it yourself. Isn't the URL obvious now, and we were all able to decipher it without any clues provided by the puppetmasters?

And, for the record, the Divinus "page" hasn't changed. It's still the parked site it's always been. And, quite frankly, I didn't expect anything there until the 1st of August anyway since that's what Van Mantra said. I'm surprised they released the PDF so early, but then again releasing that PDF allowed them to maintain some semblance of a game until the 1st, rather than keep everyone in the dark, twiddling their thumbs until then.

Also, I think bix not telling us the details on the pages he's found IS vital to the continuity of the game. If, through the game's natural progression, the only way to get to those pages was through a site or page we haven't seen yet, him revealing that information elimintates that intermediary step the puppetmasters have worked to assemble. Providing information that we're not supposed to know DOES undermine the game experience, because it allows us to skip steps we should be doing.

Finally, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the puppetmasters are reading this, and perhaps even posting anonymously. They have to be ready to do that sort of thing anyway, just in case something in the game goes horribly wrong.

If you're out there... Hi! We'd better get some free stuff when this is over, ya know! Wink

*EDIT*: And I think that us knowing Jeremy's email, auto-responder and all, was an error on their part and not meant to be released yet.

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TheGunny
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ancient wrote:
www.divinusvacations.com found the site, it was updated between 6-7 pm their time. which leaves me to conclude one thing, and that is frankly you fucked up their pattern. They changed the site because of the " I want to be secret" BS this always happens in every ARG there's always someone trying to be at the front and stumbles upon the new sites that aren't ready yet and they're being all boastful " oh I found the sites but you gotta find them for yourself heehee " and the creators say " nu-uh don't think so " and they knock you down a peg, in your playing two "GAMES" you've most likely messed things up for a lot of people Wink good job boss!


I believe that bix from the beginning stated that the sites weren't ready and that was why he was leaving it to us to search for them ourselves. I never took his revelation of the other url's as bragging. Only an indication that there was indeed more to this. He also made a point to inform us that the information didn't get us ahead as "player characters" and that was why I didn't bother continuing to look for them myself.

On a final note, do you even bother reading the threads in their entirety? It was stated right up front that the methods used to find the same sites would be considered by most as out-of-game and was only being used to further discover the truth about the game as a whole.

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ancient
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Nighthawk wrote:
The issue here isn't the Divinus URL; heck, that could have been figured out within minutes of seeing the Triton PDF. I mean, look at it yourself. Isn't the URL obvious now, and we were all able to decipher it without any clues provided by the puppetmasters?

And, for the record, the Divinus "page" hasn't changed. It's still the parked site it's always been. And, quite frankly, I didn't expect anything there until the 1st of August anyway since that's what Van Mantra said. I'm surprised they released the PDF so early, but then again releasing that PDF allowed them to maintain some semblance of a game until the 1st, rather than keep everyone in the dark, twiddling their thumbs until then.

Also, I think bix not telling us the details on the pages he's found IS vital to the continuity of the game. If, through the game's natural progression, the only way to get to those pages was through a site or page we haven't seen yet, him revealing that information elimintates that intermediary step the puppetmasters have worked to assemble. Providing information that we're not supposed to know DOES undermine the game experience, because it allows us to skip steps we should be doing.

Finally, I wouldn't be surprised if some of the puppetmasters are reading this, and perhaps even posting anonymously. They have to be ready to do that sort of thing anyway, just in case something in the game goes horribly wrong.

If you're out there... Hi! We'd better get some free stuff when this is over, ya know! Wink

*EDIT*: And I think that us knowing Jeremy's email, auto-responder and all, was an error on their part and not meant to be released yet.


I agree with your points and views, how ever for B!X to have any truth to his claims, it completely goes against the "puppetmasters" clue patterns and the way they put the sites up. every clue we've gotten leading to a website the website has been put up within 24-48 hours of the clues being posted.

For these sites to be up early is uncharacteristic, not to mention it jeopardizes the flow of the game.

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Nighthawk
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Either that or we're better than they thought. Wink

*EDIT*:

Also, as a side note, think of something for a second:

1) How many people do you think went to the Ethan Haas site? I'm guessing millions, as that link was spammed all over creation.

2) How many people are seriously playing this game?

3) Of the people that did go to the site (#1 above), how many do you think don't even know that a game even exists, and are simply waiting patiently until August 1st?

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ancient
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I'm going to say MAYBE at the very most 1000 people, but more like 200-500. which I think since MSL is linked we might receive a copy of the alpha omega game.

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Almijisti
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Umm...aren't we supposed to be talking about the journal pages we have found that are currently in-game? To get back on track, I would suggest a theory that there are not going to be just two more pages. First of all, once the other two Cassiopeia pages are released, even without Bix's sleuthing, they'd be found in short order. Plus, so far what we've seen doesn't amount to any coherent "prophecy"--they're just visions. I think at some point, later journal pages will reveal a more detailed prophecy--things that are supposed to happen that presage the arrival of the "gods". Van Mantra's videos mentioned "all those people" dying. No indication of anything like that prophesized so far in the journal entries.

Also, did anyone else notice the similarity in Schedar with Ezekial's visions of the fiery chariot? Not that they're related, just wonder if that's not one of the sources the PMs relied upon.

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theonetruebix
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ancient wrote:
For these sites to be up early is uncharacteristic, not to mention it jeopardizes the flow of the game.


It would only jeopardize the flow of the game if they had released the clues to finding them before they were ready. Instead, they aren't ready yet, and so the clues haven't been released to lead people to them.

What would jeopardize the flow of the game would be if I told you what the other two URLs to the Haas pages were.

Personally, at this point, I suspect you're simply impatient for them to be sprung and are trying to somehow bully or shame me into simply giving them to you.

I've presented my compromises: I've shown you the Ruchbah image, and I've told you what the URLs start and end with, simply for purposes of verification once they go live.

That's all I'm willing to do, for the sake of the game. And, clearly, more of the people here with an opinion on the matter agree with my position on all of this than agree with yours.
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theonetruebix
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Almijisti wrote:
To get back on track, I would suggest a theory that there are not going to be just two more pages.


I agree with this, so far as it goes.

But in the current context, it's a matter of the pages connected to the five main stars of Cassiopeia. Unless each of the five Cassiopeia sites are going to host new pages, any future releases beyond those five will come in some other form, through some other means.

So when I refer to "the two remaining pages", that's what I mean. Heh.
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Nighthawk
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Also, the pages that we have don't reveal much at all.

I think they serve a few possible purposes:

1) Some future puzzle might involve word or character selection. "Second line, third word..." sort of thing.

2) They're merely to further the storyline and explain Haas' state of mind, and may or may not have an impact on the progression of the game itself.

All the possibilities we see on them - the barely legible text, strange markings, etc... - there's no way to digitally improve that image that I can think of, so short of flat out guessing what the missing parts would be I can't think of how something would be made out of them.

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Almijisti
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The Ruchbah entry, for example, doesn't reveal anything at all--after all, we all already knew he was writing a journal of his visions. It may be that despite finding the sites, the apparent Ruchbah entry isn't going to be the real entry once it goes live.

I agree with you, Bix, that the other pages won't be in the context of Cassiopeia. My thinking, which I've mentioned before, is that the other pages will relate to Cepheus and Draco, two other circumpolar constellations with star numbers that match those in the known journal entries. Once the Ruchbah page goes live, I'll know if my theory has any validity. So far, I haven't come close to any theory matching up the letters in the titles (fh, st jn Eh, ld). There's only one vowel, so it's clearly not an anagram (yet). I don't think the page titles are random, however. There's some clues hidden there for sure.

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Ogin
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Best I could do with Schedar and Caph (same ink spots, Caph's are just stretched) was R - (A, 4) - (I, 1)* - H - A - (N, M).

Only site I found that matched up to that was www.raham.com.


And after entirely way too much time staring at that image, I'm content with waiting till the next "obvious" clue.

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FrozenFade
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ancient wrote:
www.divinusvacations.com found the site, it was updated between 6-7 pm their time. which leaves me to conclude one thing, and that is frankly you fucked up their pattern. They changed the site because of the " I want to be secret" BS this always happens in every ARG there's always someone trying to be at the front and stumbles upon the new sites that aren't ready yet and they're being all boastful " oh I found the sites but you gotta find them for yourself heehee " and the creators say " nu-uh don't think so " and they knock you down a peg, in your playing two "GAMES" you've most likely messed things up for a lot of people Wink good job boss!


In the same post that you berate Bix for "messing things up" you openly post the link to a site that as of yet has not been released...

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theonetruebix
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Also FYI, I have no idea what they mean when they say the site was updated. When ancient said that, the site had been exactly the same placeholder page it's been since it was registered.

ETA:

This is the last I'll say of it here, since IT'S THE WRONG THREAD, but do a page info on the site.

Quote:
Modified: Tuesday, July 10, 2007 7:53:02 PM


So, really, ancient doesn't know what they're talking about anyway.
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Raham

Ogin wrote:
Best I could do with Schedar and Caph (same ink spots, Caph's are just stretched) was R - (A, 4) - (I, 1)* - H - A - (N, M).

Only site I found that matched up to that was www.raham.com.


And after entirely way too much time staring at that image, I'm content with waiting till the next "obvious" clue.


No image at raham.com, just a "Coming Soon" swf with a live section in the middle (that does nothing).

found this, too:
Quote:

What does RAHAM stand for?

Radiation Hazard Meter

http://www.acronymfinder.com/acronym.aspx?rec={905EB40B-89E8-11D4-8351-00C04FC2C2BF}

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