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[Zatara_]

[SPEC] Everything I think I know about the Halo story arc.

[Vossk]

Good theory, I find it kind of far out... but i guess well hear what everyone has to say.

[mdymgit]

@Zatara - I believe you left out more important GuiltySpark dialog from that website which helps your theory on time travel... but disproves your MC triggering the halos (maybe?).

GS: "Last time, you asked me, if it was my choice, would I do it? Having considerable time to ponder your query, my answer has not changed."
(...)
GS: "There is no choice. We must activate the ring."
(...)
GS: "If you are unwilling to help, I will simply find another. Still, I must have the index. Give your construct to me, or I will be forced to take her from you."

Lets see... "having considerable time to ponder your query" - does that mean since the last halo firing? That sure would be a considerable time period to ponder.

My theory is this: MC traveled back 100,000 years, but never activated the halos because he refused to take GS's advice. After considerable time GS answer hasn't changed and GS's answer was to activate the halos.
But you say to yourself no that can't be because GS said, "why would you hesitate to do what you have already done?"

MC's first action 100,000 years ago was not to activate halo. MC's action at the end of H1 was not to activate the halos. So when MC goes through and "follows outbreak containment procedures" with GS, this is the hesitation GS is referring to.

The last quote by GS (simply find another) leads me to believe that he found someone else to activate the halos in the past.

[Phyltre]

I'd like to counter that most of your points could be interpreted to imply cyclical history. The servers support this--the Forerunner said that the Gravemind had "done this before," which makes the Halo emergence at least the third known Flood plague. It seems that high technology develops, the Flood are created/released/encountered (and underestimated), a war is fought, last-resort high technology is used to wipe the slate as clean as possible, and the process restarts. This is mostly confirmed by the ARG so far, as well as Halo canon. Guilty Spark's statements follow this line of logic.

Also it seems likely that there are Forerunner survivors in the Ark, or at least AI analogs of them (similar to Cortana's analogous humanity). This is distinct from simple monitor-AI, which is what the AIs we have encountered thus far in the the games appear to be. Members have conjectured that the AI Cortana encountered previous to the Gravemind was either a Forerunner AI analog, or the Gravemind himself exploiting the ship's systems. It seems likely that this entity on the Forerunner ship (if that is where it was) could be responsible for triggering the Ark as we have seen in the trailers.

Well, there you have it, my comments and counters.

[MConnalley]

maybe the dyson sphere is the small space that AR was talking bout hiding his things

[Bakers_12]

Interesting theory, does make sense.

When replaying Halo 1&2 over the last few weeks I thought the same thing went across my mind.

Before the ARG though I thought that Guilty Spark was alluding to the fact that a human fired the halo's and the "you" was mean to mean whole race rather as MC the individual. Guilty Spark might not realize that humanity has "forgotten" the events of the halos firing.

The races of the covenant seam to know about the events of the halos firing all be it not to accurately

[MariusDarkwolf]

Personally, I was thinking GS was a little racist, ya know like "all you reclaimers look alike to me" kind of thing. So after as long as he's been alone, one human might really look just like any other to him, as such, he could easily forget that this reclaimer (the MC) is a different one than the original reclaimer.

[laro6781]

One thing that stands out to me, is the the Forerunners never activated the Halo's the first time, 100,000 years ago. From everything we have heard so far, it was a "reclaimer". If this is true, then it begs the question, where were the Forerunners when the rings were fired the first time? Trapped in a shield world? Already dead? In another galaxy? This is one question that just sticks with me. Also, while time manipulation is possible, (I think that one of the first three halo books cites this happening in some way, dont remember for sure), I think that it is more probable, for game play time, that a different "reclaimer" activated the rings the first time. It also occured to me, that maybe the Forerunners did some sort of "upload" of themselves to computers, transfering the mind out of the body, and that they may be stored in the arc. Any thoughts?

[thebruce]

I had always thought that the Forerunners intended to end themselves, in which case, perhaps the rings could only have been fired from inside the Ark, where they placed the reclaimers?

There's just so many unknowns at this point still... I don't think any theory will be fully sound until we know all the pieces of the puzzle...

[mdymgit]

[carbonize]

Well if it was a reclaimer that activated the rings last time possibly they did so before the Forerunners could get to safety and wiped them out. If Master Chief does go back in time surely Gravemind would of at least of known about it.

[thebruce]

[mdymgit]

yeah probably bio signs or something like that... i figured i was just looking into it farther than i needed to.

[Phillowe88]

Actually in The Flood novel it's stated that 343 knows he is wearing armour

343: Scans show you are only wearing a class two armour system. I recommend at least a class twelve armour system.

MC: If there's an armour that's 6 times better than the MJOLNIR i'll be first in line to try it on.

[Tomahawk214]

I think 343 says "But you already knew that. I mean, how couldn't you?" because Master Chief was a Reclaimer (or so 343 thought) and 343 assumed that a Reclaimer already knew what he was trying to do.