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 		I think it's good that you got a phone call and pictures out of the conversation. It's more progress than most interactions. It's also good that the PM tried his best to play along, it shows he is flexible. It's just a game guys, you can't ruin anything by playing along and trying to help out. It's not like he's going to say, GAME OVER!! You lose. Laughing

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 		I agree with Jabroni, I don't think we should get worked up over this. Just remember that it is only a game. To tell you the truth, if anyone is going to screw up it's going to be me, because this is my first ARG. If you really think about it, if Christine was an alien, what could she possibly do with just a cell phone number? I just tried a reverse lookup on my cell phone number and didn't get anything. It would be easier for Christine to just go to Unton and start knocking on doors to find Gabriel than to use his cell phone number to find him. The only thing I can think of right now, is to let Gabriel know that we gave his number to Christine. But I'm not sure if Gabriel is even good, so I'm not sure on that one. Also, I think we should let Colby and Christine know to use *67 to mask their number if they do call Gabriel. That way, neither one really "comes in contact" with each other. They can talk, but neither one knows where the other one is. What does everyone else think?


Edit - I think we need some "concrete" evidence on Christine, too though. The PMs are going to have to do a lot better, I mean how hard would it be to find a girl to help along with this. I say we need a girls voice saying alien on the phone, and a picture (including hands and face) that Colby can verify is Christine. It wouldn't be hard for the PMs to do this. It's better to be safe than sorry. (I keep thinking about the knock on the door that Christine left an IM conversation with. Maybe I'm just paranoid.)

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 		Re: wait a second
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i know what i sent to colby could have been risky, but am i the only one thinking giving gabriels # was jumping the gun even more?
1.) she had "some guy" call you and say alien cuz she was "scared" to... suspicious #1
2.) its too hard to tell if she waited 3 seconds for the hometown answer... suspicious #2
3.) she obviouisly left herself out of the hand pic. that is definitely suspicious #3.
im almost sold that she is compromised...... i dont trust her. at all. colby would never believe us either.


Would everyone just chill out with the who did/said what judgements?

As for the rest-

1.) Uh, either it's suspicious or, she's a fictional character being played by a man.

2.) I'm sure that Uberg33k would have been counting. He didn't say anything so there is nothing.

3.) She is a he. He already had the pic for "Hot Christine". The hand pic was on the fly and from someone close. I don't think this whole "spot the aliens" thing was planned.

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 		I'm going to make a suggestion here. Ok?

I haven't actually given my opinion on how anyone of us should play this game so I would like you to listen as well as you can.

This idea for a game is really quite good and uses basic and free technologies. It grabbed our interest and has held it. Most likely this is being run by one or at the most two people. It could also very well be their first time doing this.

I don't know about you but I would like to see them finish this ARG and, if done well, continue to make more in the future. So this is where I need your help...

Could you guys STOP BEING SO VERY F'N DIFFICULT?!?!?!

Do you think that he/she/they intended for us to harp on this one detail of trust for so long? Do you think that demanding to have phone calls and pictures, immediately, is realistic for a very small team to pull off well and without getting extremely frustrated? We are a small group of players, probably smaller than the PM(s) was hoping for. If one or two of us are giving ultimatums and demands they might feel as if they have to comply even if they are not prepared to.

Oh and by the way. Christine already told us that she CANNOT TELL YOU THAT, in CAPS after being cornered and attacked over it. This is a message straight from the PMs to stop F'N asking. Don't expect them to listen to every demand that you give if you won't even listen to the one and only thing that they have asked of you.

The PM(s) are doing a fine grassroots game here and I would like it to continue. Please remember to give them as much of a chance to tell their story as they are giving you to effect it.

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 		Re: wait a second
Uberg33k wrote:
sMooTH WuN wrote:
i know what i sent to colby could have been risky, but am i the only one thinking giving gabriels # was jumping the gun even more?

i mean..

1.) she had "some guy" call you and say alien cuz she was "scared" to... suspicious #1

2.) its too hard to tell if she waited 3 seconds for the hometown answer... suspicious #2

3.) she obviouisly left herself out of the hand pic. that is definitely suspicious #3.


im almost sold that she is compromised...... i dont trust her. at all. colby would never believe us either.
1. So she had another person who was human call me? Doubtful. I think it was the PM. The voice was identical to Gabriel's, so I think its a case of someone not being prepared or there aren't any females on the PM staff. Either her story that she presented was correct and Colby will be able to validate it or she got some random human being in her office to call me, say alien, and hang up. I'm not sure if you've ever worked in an office environment, but prank calls aren't generally done and if someone asked me to call a random number, say a random word, then hang up, I'd turn around and go back to work. It's just not done.
2. She didn't wait 3 seconds, it was maybe half a second.
3. Maybe. Even I admit, that's a bit of man hands for me.
4. (you missed this one) When I asked her if everything was ok, she didn't say that everything was fine or deny that anything was wrong. She stated that she was disturbed that I thought she was an alien. That means clearly she passed that test.

Look, I did exactly what I said I was going to do. I said "next time I talk to Colby and Christine, I will have them say alien before I tell them anything". I went above and beyond that testing her and you had at least 24 hours to comment on my plan of action before I executed it. If you think my implementation sucks, then I'm sorry to you and the rest of the team.

I'll make you a deal : if Colby confirms it was him who called, you apologize. If it wasn't Colby, I'll quit playing. Deal?


woah buddy i think you may be taking this a little too personal. trust me if colby confirms it was him i will be more than happy to appologize. as for the test you gave, it was above and beyond circumstantial. Ill even arrange it numerically for you.

1.) People do favors for each other all the time in an office environment. She could have told someone it was a joke and to say the word alien and she would make up some story about it later. I have worked in an office environment. Doing favors for people is not that far fetched at all. No matter how strange it may be. Shes hot too, so im sure she can get people to do alot weirder stuff than that, and theyd do it with a smile on their face. Also, If the PM wasnt prepared to call you, he wouldnt call you. period. They can easily make up an excuse as to why they cant. Its not like he was forced into it. The ball is in their court, remember?

2.) maybe she did (EDIT: didn't) wait 3 seconds. on AIM. we still havent varified that it can or cannot apply to the internet. Maybe the response is "physical" like the word "alien" was said to be. No way to tell unless we get more info. Like i said, circumstantial.

3.) I dont need to respond to this one cuz even you had to admit the pic is extremely suspect. And the pic she sent you of herself (full body) could and most like was taken before she became possessed. IF she is possessed.

4.) I didnt miss this one, i just figured it went along with the same rules as the "alien" comment. By her saying "everything is fine", it doesnt CLEARLY mean she passed the test. It just means she typed it on a keyboard. Once again we havent figured out for sure if that rule applys to the speaking the words or typing them. Until then, its circumstantial.

Yeah you said you were going to test them. thats right. But i also figured you would have read the posts from multiple people discussing whether or not those rules applied to the internet, or spoken word. You are your own gamer Uberg and im not about to tell you what to do and what not to do. I highly doubt you went and screwed up the game, but as it was told to me, revealing information could be dangerous unless you are absolutely sure of what you are doing. Now unless you have some inside information about the rules applying to the internet too, you werent completely sure were you? I am only saying this because you were the one who was so adament about not revealing information until all the facts had come to light.

I really dont know what your deal is buddy, and honestly it really dont care. This is a discussion forum. If you cant take someone arguing points against what you believe to be correct, then why be here in the first place? Theres no denying you are an intelligent person Uberg and it really would be a shame if you quit playing this game because of someone disagreeing with your actions. I, for one, as i have said before, will GLADLY appologize if we find out she is not an alien. I actually emailed colby before i read your last post, asking him to put her through the test to make sure. Until then, i guess we will just have to wait and see.


This is a game. thats all I have to say...

To everyone else that I may have annoyed by this post I applogize, it had to be said...

oh and -

I agree with Angri. we have to give them space. If it is only a couple of people running this, they are doing a fantastic job and it would be terrible if it were ruined by impatient people. Just let it all flow. They have been really on point with their timeline so its not like we have to wait forever for new paths to the story. I for one am glad I was part of this. Ok ppl ill get off my soap box now... im sure u guys are tired of me lol
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I think we need some "concrete" evidence on Christine, too though. The PMs are going to have to do a lot better, I mean how hard would it be to find a girl to help along with this. I say we need a girls voice saying alien on the phone, and a picture (including hands and face) that Colby can verify is Christine. It wouldn't be hard for the PMs to do this. It's better to be safe than sorry. (I keep thinking about the knock on the door that Christine left an IM conversation with. Maybe I'm just paranoid.)


thats all im saying. The reason I responded the way I did is because it was Uberg commenting on whether or not information should be released to colby about gabriels contact info.

Either way it doesnt really matter. My point was that the "test" was still circumstantial until further notice.

As for christine callling gabriel. Whos to say christine wont say to gabriel that we gave her the number so she could help him, gabriel then reveals contact info (location, where to meet, etc) and then gabriel goes bye bye?

thats why we should be more careful.

That may not be the way the PM wants the story to go, but if we really do "become the story" then it is ONE way it could go., depending on our actions. Unless of course, the story is already predetermined. In whichcase, nothing we say or do will have that much of an effect.

I felt like i needed to clearify myself in my "suspicious" post seeing as though people are jumping all over it. The PM is a he. Thats right, so why bother calling? Like i said, he could have always made an excuse as to why she couldnt call. What im saying is that its a possibility that the PM is making christine look suspicious on purpose.

Either way we will get our answer soon. And if it was colby that had called, I will appologize Uberg, i promise. (and it will tell us that colby isnt an alien, because he said alien).

ok people unless otherwise said, this argument is a dead subject. By continuing to comment on it, you are only keeping it going. I know everyone always wants to act like theyre in the right and better than this etc etc, but its as simple as that. Keep the subject alive and your just as bad as anyone else.

ok? ok. next subject.
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 		I think I'm confused about something-

The "Do you think they know our secret" secret thingy, where was it found? Colby's profile or Christine's?

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AngriBuddhist wrote:
I think I'm confused about something-

The "Do you think they know our secret" secret thingy, where was it found? Colby's profile or Christine's?


im almost positive it was in christines..
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 		Thanks.

Is it possible that the "you" in "Do you think they know our secret?" is someone besides Colby? Could she be working with someone else?

What if Chet is actually the go-between for Gabriel and Christine? Gabriel wants Colby.

What if Chet is actually the go-between for Gabriel and Angelica? Gabriel wants Khaki pants (Agent Darkeness?).

What if we actually have no idea at all What the Hell's Going on Here?

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 		Heh, new post. Title? "Trust Issues" Razz
http://lifeandthestars.blogspot.com/2007/07/trust-issues.html

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 		I talked to Chet's girlfriend. The only thing she said was that Chet went to see Gabriel and hasn't been in touch with her for a couple weeks. And that her guy on the side's name is Red.

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 		okok here goes...

IM SORRY UBERG!!! you were right about colby calling.

but i still think christine is being way too suspicious. She was frantic and i seem to still doubt as to the explanation she gave colby. I think she thinks we are on to her... but like i said before, getting colby to even try to test her will be next to impossible.

May be over-paranoid but in a story like this, you go where the signs tell you to go. Too many signs for this chick... maybe im wrong maybe not but i still have to go with my instinct on this one. When it comes to colby, its better safe than sorry.

once again, UBerg you were right about it being Colby. In that regard, I appologize.

You guys gotta see where Im comin up with these ideas though right
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 		Personally, I don't see why she is raising such a huge deal about us testing her. The PMs released the information on the Agent Darkness blog for a reason, for us to be able to tell who's an alien and who's not. If you tell someone how to spot an alien, it naturally follows that they are going to start testing eveyone they come in contact with in order to know who they can trust and who they can't. If I were a PM, after I released the list, I would say to myself, "Well, they are probably going to test me and all the other characters then.", and start coming up with a plan. And on that note, I would be more than willing to submit to the test in order to gain someones trust. I mean it's not like you have to brand someone or chop of an arm, all they have to do is say alien. What's the big deal. I'm not saying that we should just hound Christine until the girl goes crazy, but I think we should be a bit leary and keep this in the back of our heads. Same goes with all the other characters, we still don't know who's human and who's not. One last thought, if the didn't release this information for us to be able to test people, then what did they release it for?


And to SmoothWun, the list that Colby is refering to in his blog is that "survival kit" that you had the idea for a few posts back. I mentioned it to Christine in our conversation. I didn't want to just send it to them since it wasn't my idea or my work.

One last thing... Has anyone forwarded the alien e-mail to Colby? I also told Christine that we had it and that I would forward it to Colby, but I wanted to talk with you guys first, but I never really got a reply.

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Enixis wrote:
Personally, I don't see why she is raising such a huge deal about us testing her. The PMs released the information on the Agent Darkness blog for a reason, for us to be able to tell who's an alien and who's not.


The PM(s) are raising the fuss because we are getting in the way. They are saying "Hey!!! Stop it already." It's established that these are, if not the good guys, the best guys we've got. The PM(s) would like us to stop trying to manipulate get all of the story points out of their characters before the time is right.

Enixis wrote:
One last thought, if the didn't release this information for us to be able to test people, then what did they release it for?


Maybe Agent Darkness is supposed to end up being somewhat of a good guy. If so, he couldn't possibly ignore our ultimatum suggestion that we would consider him a baby killer if he didn't tell us what we wanted to know.

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 		Smooth, did you consider adding what I suggested to your survival list?

Im just a little worried that when they go to town, they will be spotted right away by the 'aliens'.
I think if they take the precautions I suggested, they may not be recognised as human or be confronted/possessed.

What do you guys think?
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