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[SPEC] Possible creature theory
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Kai Orion
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Explosion and creature

Looking closer at the picture above of the buildings, it looks as if the creature launched a weapon, or used something like on to blast that circular shapes into the building, thus the explosion. If the creatures legs were that big, he would have huge legs comparively to his claws, which indicate a somewhat small hand/paw thingy. the claw mark on the building and SOL seem to both come from above, signifying the possibility that the creature jumped(s) from place to place, grabbing things Spider-Mann style as he went. As for the head of the SOL, maybe he got tired of holding it or maybe he knew of it's importance and then threw it. Maybe, it could work. No monster lke that yet

PostPosted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 3:27 am
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Give me enough rope...

I know this is out here, but i was fiddling around with the clues from the history page, and came up with this:

M I T T E N
H A M M E R
C H E E S E

Keeping in line with word games I had played as a kid, I eliminated all the letters that made matching lines up and down, leaving me with:

M I E N
H A E R
C H S E

I then looked at the fact that all the words and clues have been related to the idea that anything to do with Slusho has to be more than six, I looked for a seven-letter word. I came up with this:

MACHINE

Which didn't make much sense, since everything in the clues so far have pointed to an organic answer. So, then I came up with this:

CHIMERA

A chimera, as it turns out, is a mythological beast with the head of a lion, body of a goat, and a serpent's tail, which also breathes fire. (I know it's been debunked, but it makes the "It's a lion" theory very interesting again.)
The chimera also the daughter of Typhon, a reptilian beast with a hundred heads.

In addition, a chimera is also defined as a human-animal hybrid in genetics, or an amalgam of two or more distinct tissue or genotypes.

The idea of drinking Slusho and becoming huge makes me think that gene mixing and amalgamation occur at a certain point - maybe several drinkers, or even a single drinker need only be near something or someone to abosorb its genetic makeup and become something else. Absorbing mass amounts of biological matter would explain the massive growth.

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Re: Give me enough rope...

Anonymous wrote:

In addition, a chimera is also defined as a human-animal hybrid in genetics, or an amalgam of two or more distinct tissue or genotypes.

The idea of drinking Slusho and becoming huge makes me think that gene mixing and amalgamation occur at a certain point - maybe several drinkers, or even a single drinker need only be near something or someone to abosorb its genetic makeup and become something else. Absorbing mass amounts of biological matter would explain the massive growth.

I like it...

Also, have they opened the inside of the SOL up to the public again? I know what looks like "claw marks" could negate this, but maybe it became some kinda shell or cocoon for the creature. This could explain the explosion, and the "It's Alive" line if it kept somewhat of the SOL's shape.

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There is no access above the statue's pedestal. Looking at the poster (Apple now has it as the background for the trailer), the claw marks on the head and shoulders make sense, but not the robe, which leads me to believe whatever it was climbed the statue or clung onto it with rear claws in order to rip the head off.

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argossol wrote:
There is no access above the statue's pedestal. Looking at the poster (Apple now has it as the background for the trailer), the claw marks on the head and shoulders make sense, but not the robe, which leads me to believe whatever it was climbed the statue or clung onto it with rear claws in order to rip the head off.


unless it is very very very huge and has two "thumbs" that would be original all by itself.
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argossol wrote:
There is no access above the statue's pedestal. Looking at the poster (Apple now has it as the background for the trailer), the claw marks on the head and shoulders make sense, but not the robe, which leads me to believe whatever it was climbed the statue or clung onto it with rear claws in order to rip the head off.


Or hauled itself out of the water, catching a claw on her back, then took the head like a footballer going for the goal.

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I think we're overthinking this entirely....

The poster is a time line of what happens, how we see that may vary from person to person, but either way its not effecting much.

Looks like it crawls out of the water, attacks the SOL, then either tosses the head at the city (and then tosses it again once it gets there), or it carries it towards the city and then tosses it in further.

The poster is giving you an idea of whats going to transpire. Something comes from the water presumably, attacks the SOL, then ventures into the city for some more "fun".

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Moving fast

I think there's hints to the photo that the monster moves pretty quickly.

How long do wakes last in the water?

The monster already looks like it's 10 or 20 blocks into the city and the wake is still in the water.

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Re: Moving fast

SLUSHO_ZOOM! wrote:
I think there's hints to the photo that the monster moves pretty quickly.

How long do wakes last in the water?

The monster already looks like it's 10 or 20 blocks into the city and the wake is still in the water.


I think the poster is more of a time-lapse effect. It is showing us what happened, but not like an actual picture.

To show the wake in real time, it would be necessary to show the monster. Obviously, JJ ain't having that.

Just my $0.02

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There's been one single fact that's bothered me ever since I saw the trailer. Let me paint you an image first:

You're watching Jurassic Park. It's at the part where they realize that the power's been cut off from the fences and the sheep is missing. Then, they start to feel tremors. The cup of water starts vibrating intermittently with each quake. And then you see T. Rex himself. Big creature, ground shakes as it walks.

You're watching Godzilla (The one with Matthew Broderick. Bueller?) Godzilla stomps around new york, and the camera vibrates with each step. Especially during the beginning of the taxi cab chase scene. Bigger creature, more ground shaking with each step.

You're watching the trailer. You hear a roar and there's a small quake. You see an explosion and you see people react to the shockwave. The head lands and there's likely a small vibration. But other than that, we expect that a giant walking monster, one we can figure is bigger than even Godzilla, make it well onto the island of manhattan without causing tremors with each step?

From 10 to 120 feet below the island of Manhattan there's hard bedrock. Between the surface and the bedrock there's an array of asphalt streets, subway tubes, utility lines inside service tubes, large reinforcement beams to the bedrock for the larger skyscrapers - in other words, lots of material to transfer vibrations through the earth more effectively than just the land itself. And the bedrock itself would also provide more surface to reverberate and reflect any stomping that would occur above. Invoking 9-11, along with other video of views of buildings collapsing from controllled explosions, you can see that a mass the size of a building crashing against the ground causes tremors that can be felt even from a good distance away.

The physics of everything, including Hollywood physics and real-life physics, would tell you that a building-sized monster should be causing small tremors with every step, yet we just don't see it in the trailer. Of course, we also don't see the monster - but we can assume it's on the island, since someone running away had seen it and a moment later we're dodging the head of the Statue of Liberty.

Of course, it could be omitted for enhancing the mystery of what's going on, but if we're going to be told "It's alive, and it's huge" we should be expecting a lot of tremorous stomping to occur from a living, giant monster.
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What if it's sliding?

What if it's sliding instead of walking? Like a snail or something.

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 hrmm

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in other words, lots of material to transfer vibrations through the earth more effectively than just the land itself. And the bedrock itself would also provide more surface to reverberate and reflect any stomping that would occur above.


Except bedrock (being more dense)is the best conductor of tremors vs spaces with air (less dense, subways etc.) If the reverse were true, you could feel earthquakes in a helicopter hovering above ground.

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Stomp overkill

I always though that the "stomp" vibrations in the Jurassic movies or any monster movie were kind of overkill. I've lived over subway lines and that's a whole lot of tonnage hurtling down the tracks. The vibrations are barely perceptible.

Also, it's just not efficient in terms of locomotion to cause huge vibrations everytime you take a step.

T Rex would never catch anything if he made huge stomping sounds and vibrations everywhere it went.

Just a thought. They could be taking a different approach. The monster could be more agile than a big goofy Godzilla in a foam suit.

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Re: hrmm

Carnus wrote:

Except bedrock (being more dense)is the best conductor of tremors vs spaces with air (less dense, subways etc.) If the reverse were true, you could feel earthquakes in a helicopter hovering above ground.


I was referring to the structure itself, not the space created by it. They would criss-cross and form a latticed structure just below the surface, which should reverberate much the way rebar would reverberate through the structure if struck. It would conduct the tremors more effectively than if there were no subways, utility lines, service tunnels and subways below the ground. (Since the ground is less dense than the bedrock below it, some of the energy is lost. However, with rigid structures placed within it the energy can be more directly transferred through it.)
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